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 first cycle
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Novice 
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I am going to start my first cycle. I have tryed everything else and have decided to take it to the next level. I am going to start with injectable finaplix, Deca and insulin. I am 5'8" and 152 pounds. Any suggestions or tips? And what do you reccomend for dosages?     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 644 |
Where did you come up with this combo for a first cycle ? You are insane to think of using insulin in a begginer cycle. Just stick to the basics; test, d-bol, deca. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 31 |
I am going to start my first cycle. I have tryed everything else and have decided to take it to the next level. I am going to start with injectable finaplix, Deca and insulin. I am 5'8" and 152 pounds. Any suggestions or tips? And what do you reccomend for dosages?
Why are you using insulin???? YOUR NOT ADVANCED ENOUGH PLUS--Your dont need it you will grow on juice alone---better post cycle anyway Why finaplix?? Very toxic to the liver--not a test- Why deca?? Its weak!! It will harden you up but you wont put on serious size-- not a test either-You wont get huge Do some more research and figure you goals out? You didnt say you goals---Size, cutting up?? I figure size so I would recommend a test(enant., cyp, sustanon) whichever at around 400-600mg weekly---Dbol optional at 40mg for first 4-6wks....or just keep it simple with the test alone You also need clomid during and post cycle to get you test levels going back to normal ------------------ [This message has been edited by RabbidWolverine (edited March 22, 2001).] | ||
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Novice
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hey this is why i came on here, to learn more, i appreciate the advice. How much test and clomid do you reccomend a week if i'm planning a 8 week cycle? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 567 |
Not to mention that you're screwed if you get gyno from using the deca and fina together. Nolvadex won't do shit for progesterone induced gyno. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 236 |
Glad you're here and are smart enough to take some heat. Props for that... Hopefully you didn't already buy the above listed products. If so, sell the insulin and the Deca. I would try something like this: Weeks 1-8 ...that's just a start, but you would add nice size with that, and it'd be a good starting cycle. If money is tight, try something like Fina, Dbol and EQ. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 31 |
I would go with----- Test only cycle Wks 1-8 400mg Enant(Cypionate) either one Test and Dbol-- Wks 1-8 400mg Enant. weekly You gotta choose either a test/dbol or test only cycle---Dont let people tell you that more is always better I would prefer a test only cycle first--but pick your poison Start milk thistle 2 wks before cycle and use all the way through(800mg daily) Cheap at Vitaminworld.com Good multivitamin Lots of rest Minimal drinking(preferably none) but i love to drink Lots of water 1-2 gallons
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Novice
Posts: 6 |
The thing is, that everything i read and hear about test is that you loose most your gains even with clomid at the end of your cycle, is that true? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 22 |
Losing your gains falls upon your shoulders. If you work out 3 days and rest one, eat just as much as you did on your cycle, and use glutamine, vitamin C, ZMA, and creatine you can keep what you worked so hard for. But you will have to work just as hard to keep them, AS will help you get through sticks, they won't get you the Mr. O over night. Eat, Sleep, Lift = Success | ||
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Novice
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I understand what you guys are saying and i appreciate all the advice, as i start my first cycle i just want to have an i dea of how much will i keep of what i gain. I understand what your saying bigbadbodybuilder, i just dont want to be giving it all i got having great gains on my cycle but then working just as hard when i get off and loosing most of it. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 31 |
Other than all the supplements and eating post cycle you will have to change your workouts accordingly-- YOu cant workout off a cycle like you do when on a cycle Go with higher reps/lower weight ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 575 |
I did sust@ 500mg week for 8 weeks and d-bol 25mg week for 3 weeks. I started @ 170lbs took my last shot on friday.. i will probably loose about 10-15lbs water | ||
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Novice
Posts: 6 |
Here's what i'm thinking, can the finaplix cause it will be hell on my kidneys, do a sust250 and deca cycle, starting the milk thistle 2 weeks before and some clomid at the end of my cycle. How much sust and deco though? i've heard anywhere from 750-500mg a week. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 215 |
Go with 500mg sos(that is going to be hard enough on your ass they hurt a bit ya know). I would use just 200mg a week of deca on your first cycle should be plenty and go about 8 weeks. This of course is my opinion and shouldn't be taken as illegal medical advice. |
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posted March 22, 2001 12:36 AM