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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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How effective would GH be if used in conjunction with lower androgenic steroids such as Primobolin or EQ? Most feel that it should be used in a high androgen enviroment and I am wondering if anyone has input otherwise?    | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 18 |
Well, I'm sure you will get differing oppinions on this, as on any other subject. What I have to say is that it depends on what your goal is! If you want to reep the anabolic effects of HGH you should use it with insulin, T3, IGF-1 and AS. This is for the more advanced and one would have to really know what you are doing to get the most of it. If you on the other hand are content with other effects then specifically anabolic, you can use HGH alone and reep the excellent fatburning properties, shorter recovery time from injuries, strengthening of joints, ligaments and tendons, general feeling of well being and other "rejuvinating" effects on the body (depending on how long you stay on it). Actually, the late Paul Boerresen advised NOT to use high androgenic compounds when using HGH! He argued that it would work best in a highly anabolic environment (Primobolan, deca, insulin, T3, IGF-1) and androgenic compounds would counteract the effect from HGH. He made an analogy: he said that his son was producing loads of GH until he became a teenager, then there was a transition in the body to start producing testosterone instead whilst simultaneously decreasing GH production. Looks like mother nature didn't intend for them to work together! Now I know this may be the opposit of what you have heard earlier but I'm only stating what he has said in several articles. I myself am trying a cycle of HGH and Primobolan. As you probably can see I am not looking for mass, then I would have chosen a straight AS cycle - being much more cost effective anabolicly speaking - I am looking for a steady, quality gain in musclemass whilst simultaneously looking for the previous mentioned non-anabolic properties of HGH. So far (just 5 days into the cycle) I have already started hardening up, loosing bodyfat and feeling great - and I am actually on a bulking diet!!! DNP may be nr. 1 for burning fat but HGH has GOT to be more pleasant!!! Anyway, hope any of this gave you some idea of what to expect!? Crom | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 259 |
Definately a differing opinion, but this is exactly was I was looking for...varied opinions on the subject. Borreson's theory may have some validity. Inform us of your gains with GH and Primo as I am very interested. I am currently on Test, GH, Insulin, and T3. I am gaining bodyweight significantly faster than ususal, as to be expected. In this phase I plan to put on some size. My next phase is to lean out and may cut out the test and substitute it for an anabolic. | ||
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Cool Novice
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Sounds good:-) I presume you are using HGH spesifically for the anabolic properties since you are stacking it with insulin and T3!? When you switch to you anabolic AS, will you still be doing HGH? If so, you should be able to lean down quite a bit whilst simultaneously gaining some lbm. Keep us posted! Crom | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 259 |
I plan on usuing the GH during my leaning phase as well. The only difference between the two will be my choice of AS. I plan on either using Primo or EQ instead of the test. I would like to use Winny, but I am getting my liver values monitored monthly because of my use of Accutaine. Winstrol reaks havoc on my liver. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 655 |
"Actually, the late Paul Boerresen advised NOT to use high androgenic compounds when using HGH! He argued that it would work best in a highly anabolic environment (Primobolan, deca, insulin, T3, IGF-1) and androgenic compounds would counteract the effect from HGH. He made an analogy: he said that his son was producing loads of GH until he became a teenager, then there was a transition in the body to start producing testosterone instead whilst simultaneously decreasing GH production. Looks like mother nature didn't intend for them to work together! Now I know this may be the opposit of what you have heard earlier but I'm only stating what he has said in several articles." This is the reason why I have maintained that Borreson was a moron. GH is not elevated prior to puberty and then decreases as sex hormones increase during puberty. There is a direct correlation with the increase in sex hormones and an increase in GH...essentially sex hormones increase GH levels. How he could attempt to say that androgenic steroids counter the effect of GH is beyond me...I guess all the pros who use GH are not using test, they are only using Anavar and Primobolan, HA! This is just one more page in my book on "Why Paul Borreson was a Retard." |
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posted March 21, 2001 09:54 PM