Author | Topic: Deca - do I need Nolva? | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 95 |
Do you need Nolva if you're taking 400mg of Deca everyweek for 7 weeks? | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 214 |
deca converts to progesterone. nolva is an anti estrogen. so guess what? it wont do shit for progesterone induced gyno. the only thing that will help is winny and RU 486. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 138 |
Obviously RU 486 is not easily accessible to us all leaving me with a couple questions: 1) could proviron help with prevention of progest gyno? I'd figure it would give a harder appearance, and cut on the water weight. Probably not the gyno though, but I'd like to hear you're opinions. 2) How much Winstrol is needed to saturate the progest receptors? Being that it is water soluble, seems pretty inconvenient. | ||
Olympian Posts: 1599 |
DISSTO IS RIGHT. NOLVA WON'T DO ANYTHING TO HELP AGAINST PROGESTERONE INDUCED GYNO. WINNY AT 25MG/ED WOULD WORK GREAT OR RU-486 AS WELL. I DO NOT THINK THAT YOU WILL HAVE TO MUCH TROUBLE WITH DECA AT 400MG/WEEK THOUGH. GOOD LUCK ON THE CYCLE M18 ------------------ | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 95 |
I just ordered a 3 gram (3000mg) bottle of Ttokkyo Deca. That's 10 shots of 300mg. Safety is my #1 priority. I don't want to lose hair, no bloat, and no breast. I can deal with acne and Deca dick... which I'm not using it for the moment (sadly). So what's the best way to cycle this thing? I don't want to go above 400mg and I want to use up the bottle for the cycle. Plan A is to take 300mg shot every 5 days for 7 1/2 weeks. This is my first cycle so I really just want to stick with Deca and not mess around with anything else. Let me get used to what the hell I'm doing first before I start stacking stuff. | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 1180 |
quote: Plan A looks good. No need to taper Deca at the end. Godspeed | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 95 |
You guys know a way to take care of Progesterone? Any herbs or supplements out there? | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 198 |
From what I've read, nandrolone converts to progesterone at a lower rate than test converts to estrogen. I think the most common approach is to not do too much. Some people are convinced that Winny is a progest blocker...that one's been debated several times. | ||
Moderator Posts: 2952 |
Deca - gyno is not easily preventable. winny helps for most but not all. RU-486 is out there, but Marty and Doc Brown had an easier time finding plutonium in 1955 in "Back to the Future" than you will with RU 486. | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 95 |
but at 300mg every 5th day or 400mg everyweek of Deca only, I shouldn't even have to worry about it am I right? | ||
Olympian Posts: 1901 |
You shouold be safe, but everyone is different. Give it a try, it's the only way you can find out. | ||
Cool Novice Posts: 29 |
Dont stack anything then:: Just go with a test(enan.,cyp,whichever) ------------------ |
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