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teenage_MONSTER

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posted March 21, 2001 08:44 AM

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THINKING OF A D'BOL/PRIMO 3 WEEK,THEN A 3 WEEK FINA/WINNY, THEN A 3 WEEK ENANTATE/ANADROL CYCLE FOR 10 LBS OR SO KEEPABLE GAINS EACH TIME? WHAT DO U GUYS THINK???

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bdybldrlf

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posted March 21, 2001 09:36 AM

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start out with the anadrol/enantate stack, then to the d-bol/primo and the fina/winny last. This order you will get good size and the fina and winny last will harden you up and solidify the gains. Don't forget the clomid. Good Luck.

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bbigman2000

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posted March 21, 2001 10:39 AM

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3 weeks of test enathate is certainly not long enough, it wont even have kicked in and you will be off it.
I would go for 10 weeks of test start high then from wk 7 taper it off, use the dbol from wk 1 to wk 4 and then start the primo from end week 4 til the end followed by hcg then clomid, and if you are staying off for a few weeks use clenbuterol to bridge.
Good luck.

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jrock75

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posted March 21, 2001 12:43 PM

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Bigman, that sounds like the best idea to do. For sure do the test for 10 weeks and taper it off. Primo at the end is great. Do your HCG and Clomid at the end and you should keep some good gains.

JRock


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted March 21, 2001 12:48 PM

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Here's an old post of mine that may be of some benefit,should you decide to go the short route...

I see a lot of misconceptions of what constitutes a"short cycle"going on lately.I constantly hear so and so talk about"Yeah,I'm planning on doing a short cycle that will consist of four weeks of test".This is missing the whole benificial strategem behind this newer"fad"type of cycling,and I'll explain why that is--2 WEEKS is the maximum one should be"on",for the following reasons:In the first two weeks of high androgen levels,pituitary response to Leutenizing-Hormone-Releasing-Hormone(LHRH)not only does not decrease,it actually IMPROVES(Which basically means your pituitary is sensitized,and therefore leutinizing hormone output is increased,which is obviously quite benificial).BUT-AFTER THE 2 WEEK POINT:The pituitary rapidly becomes unresponsive to L-H-R-H.Thus,both the Hypothalamus(which produces L-H-R-H)and the Pituitary(which produces Leutenizing Hormone)are now in a state of inhibition,and must ride out a longer recovery process.The moral here is,from a SUPPRESSIONAL standpoint--You guys that are stretching your cycles out past the two week point might as well just do the standard 8 week cycles,since full inhibition has already occurred.If kept to 14 days and under,recovery is almost immediate,as only the hypothalamus has to recover,not the pituitary.Here's some helpful hints for staying within the time frame,thus reaping the benifits behind this particular method of cycle:Stick to orals and injectibles with short acting esters.Any of the orals are acceptable as they all have fast clearance times out of the body.Suitable injectibles include:Suspensions(Aqueous,Winstrol)acetates,propionates,and phenylpropionates.Hope this clears up some of the misconceptions and helps any of you fellas thinking about experimenting with this method in the future.---Huck


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Delinquent

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posted March 21, 2001 12:51 PM

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Hey Huck I swear there should be a way you could post that at the top permantly b/c I see it at least once a week. It's a great article don't get me wrong. I guess it all comes down to reSEARCH.


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barbells79

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posted March 21, 2001 02:26 PM

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huck
i agree with delinqent, you should get that one out there for everyone to stare at.some would be too lazy too research it in that much depth.nice post man!

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