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 coming off....take a look..
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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I'll be coming off 10 week cycle of 1000 sus, 400 EQ/wk..... I was thinking of first starting Nolva 20mg and 25mg proviron e/d at week 10-14, also clen at week 10(usual cycle). Then starting clomid at week 14 100mgs/ed, 50 mg next week e/d. Most will probably think this to be overkill, but I want to keep as much as possible and avoid gyno and fat deposits at all costs....Anything wrong with this??(I'm thinking maybe more clomid)...Any comments would be greatly appreciated....Thanks     | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 49 |
1000 sus a week?? thats obsurd. 1st off you can only take nolv 3-4 weeks after a cycle of sus do to its prolonged ester activity. 2nd you should switch to something milder such as deca and anavar to harden up all that bloat you mustve gained.3rd with all that test your best bet is arimidex. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 191 |
Thanks NYIM, I am on week 2 right now, but planning ahead..I can't get arimidex right now... any help mods, gurus, or otherwise? this is an outline I have come up with from searching..any refinements or suggestions would be great...Thanks All [This message has been edited by skippy (edited March 21, 2001).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 191 |
'preciate it......... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 226 |
Another conservative fitness juicer. 1G of sust isn't that much. Sure, maybe if you're 10 year old 4 footer. Some people need high dosages to grow to meet their goals. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 474 |
HEY BRO. YOU CAN START TAKING THE CLOMID AND NOLVA NOW. ITS BETTER TO START NOW AND GET YOUR NUTS WORKING ASAP. TAKE MORE CLOMID - ITS CHEAPER AND I'VE NEVER GOTTEN SIDES FROM 8 WEEKS OF USE AT 100MG/DAY  SOME BROS TAKE 200-300MG/DAY, BUT I CAN'T BELIEVE I HAVE THE RECEPTORS FOR THAT MUCH!------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 717 |
I think it was Stew that posted a few weeks ago that clomid wouldn't get the nuts going if there was still a higher level of androgens in the body than normal. He said that HCG was the best bet for getting the natural test level back up while there is still a good amount of androgens present. You have to remember that the Sus & Eq will still be active at a fairly high level 2-4 weeks after your final inj. So, you might want to add HCG into the mix, and then hit the clomid a few weeks after the final inj. It's just something for you to think about. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 47 |
i'm with orchitis use hcg (2000 iu every 3 days for 2 weeks) and, if u feel your nipples, some nolvadex (20 mgs EOD) to bridge, and start Clomid only 4 weeks after your last shoot of Sust and use it al least for 3 weeks 100/100/50 EOD. Good tapering. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 191 |
Hey fellas, the HCG sounds good but it's high to me and there are skeptics of it that say if your not careful it will induce gyno. I think go with what I got except drop the nolva, unless I need it and extend the clomid to 3 weeks....I know this thread is going to be dropped like a rock , but I would still love to hear more suggestions..........Many Thanks | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1101 |
ORCHITIS....amen, brother PA | ||
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Olympian 
Posts: 1866 |
quote: NO, NO, NO, NO, NO! Sust at 1000mg a week is nothing for starters. Second, just because you no longer have all the androgens in your system does not mean that there is no reason to take nolvadex. It is just as important then. Most people get gyno AFTER a cycle due to the drastic horomone imbalance. Also, he said he wanted to use it to eliminate fatty deposits which are caused by ESTROGEN, don't ya think nolvadex would help with that? Arimidex would be alright, but you don't need it, but it is better. [This message has been edited by ORGANON CANON (edited March 21, 2001).] | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 2021 |
quote: Man, your killing us with all of your miss informed posts. I think he is on the right track. The nolva/proviron stack will keep the estrogen level down, so the clomid can work its wonders. Arimidex is perfect here. A little expensive, but a solid choice. Hcg now woth the nolva/proviron is also a good idea. The way hcg elevates estrogen levels, I wouldnt take it without the nolva/proviron. ------------------ "Catch a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he eats for a lifetime." |
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posted March 21, 2001 07:53 AM
