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WanTtoBeDeisel

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posted March 21, 2001 12:16 AM

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OK IM STARTIN TO GET PISSED HEARIN THAT EVENTUALLY IM GONNA LOSE EVERY FUCKIN POUND THAT I PUT ON AFTER IM DONE WITH THIS TEST PROP!! CAN SOMEONE ON THIS FUCKING BOARD TELL ME WHAT THE FRIGGEN POINT IS THEN, TO GET HUGE AND LOSE IT ALL... IT MAKES ABSOLUTLEY NO SENSE TO ME AT ALL... I GUESS THE BEST I CAN DO NOW IS USE LOW DOSES AND TRY TO KEEP AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE FROM THIS STUPID DRUG!!! ITS ALREADY PAID FOR I MIGHT AS WELL WASTE MY MONEY FOR 8 WEEKS.


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Rugby

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posted March 21, 2001 12:19 AM

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where the hell did you hear that you are gonna lose all of your gains? You;ll lose water gains... But you wont lose muscle gains bro... I have been on roids for 2 years... I have only gotten bigger... Not smaller bro


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INSANE 1

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posted March 21, 2001 12:19 AM

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THATS WHAT THE POST CYCLE CLOMID BOOST IS FOR. I HAVE DONE A STRAIGHT CYCLE OF PROP(ITS ALL I COULD GET AT THE TIME). I MADE DECENT GAINS AND KEPT MOST OF THEM. THE CLOMID WORKS GREAT AS LONG AS YOU ALSO CONTINUE A GOOD DIET AND WORKOUT AFTER THE CYCLE.


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Drewski

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posted March 21, 2001 12:20 AM

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i hear you man, i about shit myself the other day when i was reading about this guy who had one helluva a test, dboll, eq and slin cycle, he had some other shit but i dont remember. Anyway it was like a 1500$ dollar cycle, big time dosages. And he was expecting to gain 15-25 lbs. Now think about that, 1500 buks for maybe 20 lbs, and you know he wont keep that. i mean when do u get to the point when enough is enough. I think some bro are ridiculously obsessed


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Mr. Sustanon

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posted March 21, 2001 12:21 AM

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What the hell are you talking about. You sound like a pussy. Grow up before you think about using a stack bro.

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Rugby

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posted March 21, 2001 12:23 AM

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you newbies need to get a clue... MUSCLE IS MUSCLE... you think your body knows the difference between muscle gained on roida nd muscle gained naturally????? NO... If you keep working out and keep a good diet... You arent gonna lose any gains... Do you think we would all be doing this if we were gonna lose everyhting we gained? HELL NO


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lawnsaver

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posted March 21, 2001 12:23 AM

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This is the deal. Clomid, glutamine, creatine, keep the solid diet, and lower your training intesity. You cant train as if you were "on".

Dont stop training and eating right. This is the biggest part of maintaining gains. This is a life style, not a quick fix!

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INSANE 1

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posted March 21, 2001 12:25 AM

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RUGBY IS RIGHT, YOUR BODY HAS NO CHOICE BUT TO GROW. IT ALL FALLS BACK ON YOU. EAT RIGHT, TRAIN RIGHT, USE CLOMID. ITS A WIN WIN SITUATION. THE QUESTION IS, ARE YOU DEDICATED ENOUGH TO OBTAIN AND KEEP YOUR GAINS???????


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Rugby

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posted March 21, 2001 12:29 AM

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fuck that pist cycle shit... It helps... But when i first started when i was 16... I knew shit about roids... I didnt know clomid... I just did 400mg deca, 750mg sust, 40mg dbol... I didnt do clomid... I waited 3 months to do my next cycle, and didnt lose a thing... All that post cycle glutamine, creatine is BS... Stick to clomid if you are gonna use something... thats all i use if i decide to come off


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lawnsaver

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posted March 21, 2001 12:35 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by Rugby:
fuck that pist cycle shit... It helps... But when i first started when i was 16... I knew shit about roids... I didnt know clomid... I just did 400mg deca, 750mg sust, 40mg dbol... I didnt do clomid... I waited 3 months to do my next cycle, and didnt lose a thing... All that post cycle glutamine, creatine is BS... Stick to clomid if you are gonna use something... thats all i use if i decide to come off

Come on Rugby, dont shot me down like that.
Glutamine and creatine are great post cycle. Glutamine is a main stay in my suppls. If I stop taking it my muscles get thoses burning pumps. The stuff works. If you dont like it, thats fine, but there are thousands who love it.

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RabbidWolverine

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posted March 21, 2001 12:55 AM

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You obviously did not do enough research if you think you will lose all your gains---that happens if you quit lifting, and eating like you did when on your cycle--You have to eat to keep your size---

clomid, creatine, glutamine, are a must---


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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 21, 2001 05:23 AM

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Hehe glutamine in my opinion has a place post cycle, it has too many benefits to neglect. But creatine holds no place in my opinion, what benefits can you get from creatine, just curious?

Clomid, Proviron, Glutamine, Clen, Cortisol inhibitor is what is needed in my opinion


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slabcat

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posted March 21, 2001 09:55 AM

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Lawnsaver nailed it. How you train and what you take after your cycle is the most important part of keeping your gains. I would also throw some clen in with the supps he mentioned. Before you start a cycle do your research on what to do after or else you'll be stuck in the two steps forward two steps back scenario. Just educate yourself and I promise you it's possible to keep most of your gains.

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WanTtoBeDeisel

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posted March 21, 2001 12:32 PM

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AND ANOTHER THING, WHEN THE HELL DOES THIS FUCKING TEST FLU SHIT GO AWAY, HOW DO YOU PEOPLE WORK OUT WHEN YOU CANT EVEN MOVE OUT OF BED??!!... whoa maybe it is working, i think im a little moody


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Big Johnson

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posted March 21, 2001 12:43 PM

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LIKE EVERYONE ELSE SAID - YOU KEEP YOUR GAINS IF YOU EAT AND TRAIN RIGHT. ALSO, CLOMID WILL HELP BIG TIME.

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pittbull2

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posted March 21, 2001 02:04 PM

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You sound like your going through what I did last cycle, I stayed in bed until it was time to eat then went back to bed until I had enough energy to train.lol IT WAS TOUGH but I never missed a workout. That was the only cycle I ever felt that bad but don't know why !!!!


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WanTtoBeDeisel

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posted March 21, 2001 10:42 PM

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wait the sickness doesntn go away?????!


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Bigdiesel

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posted March 21, 2001 11:43 PM

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you shouldnt be that sic off of test, even if it is sustonon......better be thinking of switchin tests..........

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Hardcore4Evr

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posted March 22, 2001 02:24 AM

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Iron Game, so you really think Clen would be a good supplement to use after i come off the cycle im on now? Going to be off for 5 weeks before i start my cutting cycle. I was just going to lower my training intensity some, up my protein, calories, ect, and take creatine & Glutamine. But if you think Clen will be sufficient to add, i may think about it.

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MUSTANG_18

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posted March 22, 2001 02:42 AM

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JUST WAIT IT OUT BRO, THE TEST FLU WILL GO AWAY. I HAD THE FLU WHILE ON SUST FOR 3 DAYS AND THEN IT WENT AWAY. I DID NOTHING BUT DRINK GATORADE FOR 2 DAYS STRAIGHT AND TRIED TO HOLD DOWN AN N-LARGE 2 SHAKE TO GET SOME CALS AND PROTEIN AND WHEN I WENT BACK TO THE GYM ON MONDAY I HAD THE BEST WORKOUT OF MY CYCLE. ALSO YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO KEEP ALL OF YOUR GAINS POST CYCLE, THE ONLY THING YOU WILL LOOSE IS WATER WEIGHT. LIKE LAWNSAVER SAID, LOWER YOU TRAINING INTESITY(SP) AND USE THE SUPPS HE SAID AND YOU'LL KEEP THE MAJORITY OF YOUR GAINS. GOOD LUCK

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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 22, 2001 03:20 AM

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Hardcore,

is just my opinion, but clen has prooven itself time and time again for post cycle recovery and to aid in retaining gains. Is anti catabolic but would be better to add in the glutamine as well.

Peace


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