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thankgodformexico

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posted March 20, 2001 07:12 PM

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I'm just curious how many of you guys would rather be natural with hair, or be huge and bald. I'm just tryen to see how much importance other guys give to their hair. I know some of you could care less and just buick it, but others seem to care a lot like I do. Muscle and hair both mean a lot to me so it's a constant mental battle with myself trying to prioritize, but I find that hair usually wins. I'm only 21 and I can't be bald this young. So for now I'm limited to the occasional deca only cycle. I still receed naturally even on propecia and oral minoxidil, it sux.


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Pi Kappa Phi

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posted March 20, 2001 08:29 PM

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If it came down to steroids and my hair, my hair would definitely win. luckily i dont have to worry about that.


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pittbull2

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posted March 20, 2001 08:45 PM

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I'm having the same problem, last cycle thinned my hair and I would look bad bald, short & bald NO WAY!!! Now on propeshia & Nioxin hope this will help me.


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Spunky

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posted March 20, 2001 09:05 PM

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muscles win here. I use to shave my head and I look pretty good w/ it bald, so im not too worried. I haven't noticed much hairloss since I started though.


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Anabolicum Mister

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posted March 20, 2001 09:16 PM

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TGFM,

I am currently debating the same questions as you are. I am going to try a deca only cycle and see what the results are. If I still lose hair...then I don't know what. What really bothers me is that I'm not looking to be the biggest guy in town but would like some good size with the hardness and vascularity that you only get with steroids.

BTW, have you found an alternative source for loniten since it has been discontinued?


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DREXX

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posted March 20, 2001 09:16 PM

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Muscle wins over Hair!

I like the bald look. But I am lucky and no AAS affect my hair

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posted March 20, 2001 09:24 PM

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Hair defintely wins!!! But i have done everything and hadn't noticed any hairloss. And i am 30 now. I have been using Nizoral for about 4 years too. It probably has helped. Cause i have done Halo, Suspension, D-bol, Winny, and regualr Test. And my hairline is the same as 5 years ago. Knock on wood!!!

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thankgodformexico

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posted March 20, 2001 09:44 PM

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AM,

I just strted taking the regular 5% minoxidil liquid orally. I know of other people who do this and it is as safe and a lot cheaper than the pills. .2ml = 10mg, I take .1 twice a day.


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Zeke_B

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posted March 20, 2001 10:05 PM

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Let's raise the stakes...how about huge,
bald, with acne and titties and it takes
you ten minutes to piss? lol

I'm thinkin about doing the bald thing.
My wife ain't too keen on the idea though.


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Iwillbe

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posted March 20, 2001 10:05 PM

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From the research that I have done, there is no proven evidence that says anything on the market will help the receding hair line. I'm about the same as you thankgod..., 22 and can notice my hair receding in the front corners. Has anyone had any other luck with keeping the hair in front?? I have no problems in the back, yet. Thanks for suggestions.
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thankgodformexico

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posted March 20, 2001 11:02 PM

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Iwillbe, the best thing to do is get on propecia and get some 5% monoxidil and hope it stops it. Nizoral 2% shampoo helps too. Stay away from test bro, it will make you receed fast! Propecia kills my sex drive though, it sux, but I just deal with it because my hair is important. Later


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johnny iron

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posted March 20, 2001 11:10 PM

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The ONLY thing from stopping me using AAS is the fear of losing hair. There is no baldness anywhere in my family, but I still would not want to take the chance. I'd rather be attracted to the opposite sex and get attention from females cause of looks than have huge muscles.


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Hugh Gellatts

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posted March 20, 2001 11:15 PM

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I can't touch D-bol because it kills my hairline even though I use nizoral and propecia. Other juice doesn't effect it much.


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littlearnold1069

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posted March 20, 2001 11:42 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by johnny iron:
The ONLY thing from stopping me using AAS is the fear of losing hair.
QUESTION?
Why do you post on the anabolic discussion board if you don't juice? Just wondering.

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chillin408

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posted March 21, 2001 12:09 AM

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look at skip la cour,hes bald and natural


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RabbidWolverine

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posted March 21, 2001 12:57 AM

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Lucky I look good bald--


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giantset

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posted March 21, 2001 01:38 AM

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5% minoxidil and spironolactone applied topically stopped my hair from receeding while on. I only applied it in the front though and now I have some hair thinning on the top of my head so I have starting applying the minoxidil there as well. I have started back on proscar so that should stop and probably reverse the thinning of the hair on the top of my head. Check out www.regrowth.com it has some good info and good products.

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solidspine

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posted March 21, 2001 02:08 AM

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propecia,

I'm 50 and my hair has been thining on the top in the last two to three years, regardless of the fact I may or may not be doing a cycle. Last year after about a 15 week cycle I used propecia for about 6 months and my hair returned just fine. I'm doing a ethanate cycle right now and think I'm thinning but it could simply be pyschological. Anyway I am confident propecia will help. What I don't like is that it is 2 bucks a pill. I'm going to look for it in Mexico.


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bbigman2000

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posted March 21, 2001 09:57 AM

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I shave my head anyway, got bad acne on the upper back, and I'm huge, no matter what I have used my hairline is not effected atall, just lucky I guess, but if it came down to it I would shave the hair and keep the muscles !!
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fallenangel

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posted March 21, 2001 10:11 AM

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judging by my dad mine will lose its colur but not its grip


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joeljuice

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I did get 16 amps Omnadren 250 and 16 amps Normar's Deca. I will start the cycle sooner or later, but i fear baldness like hell! Hairloss is the baddest side effect on juicing! I'm 22 years old and have beautiful and good hair no marks of hairloss, but i dont know how the roids effects on me. My father is near 50 and he have still hair, myy mothers brothers are 40 and they front hair have thinned little bit. Is there any tests that can show if i have hairloss in my genetics?

I plan that i use those Decas by taking 400mg per week for 8 weeks and not stack the testo with it. And after that take omnadren cycle with Finasteride and maeby some EQ. Only problem with Deca only cycle is Deca-Dick. But isnt it temporary?

And yes HAIR is way more important that muscles! But muscles are second important to me.

Word sucks Anything good is bad! I meant that roids are good, but they are also bad so is booze and tobacco!!!

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quote:
Originally posted by Zeke_B:
Let's raise the stakes...how about huge,
bald, with acne and titties and it takes
you ten minutes to piss? lol

I'm thinkin about doing the bald thing.
My wife ain't too keen on the idea though.



Oh shit that's pushing it but some days when I see the monsters come out in my gym I think I would sell my soul... hA!!! not really but fuck being bald... even more fuck being small ???? I'm confused....

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DOGGY

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posted March 21, 2001 12:58 PM

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Pass the wax please.. its huge and bald for me
the only way to go.

(no tities please) DOGGY


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joeljuice

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LongTimeR

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Dude's - Check out your Mom's Bro's for your bald gene. It passes down the female side of the chain. If she didn't have bros then check out her mom's bros pics or check with your mom to see if she knows what her mom's brother's had in regards to hair when they were old.

Shit Dude's if your gone bald ain't no preventing it till they figure out how to fix the gene. You are only delaying the inevitable otherwise, if it runs in the female side of the male family.

BTW - I'm Bald as Shit and it don't run in my mom's Bros, they all have full heads of hair, oh and my baldness has nothing to do with gear, just the rear window of a 67 Beetle (Pre Safety Glass), Gear hasn't made me lose any more.

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telford

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posted March 21, 2001 02:16 PM

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huge and bald .not that i have a choice


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CN1

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look bro, the thing is if you are going to do steroids illegally, then you better bet that one day the hair is gonna thin, you see since we dont have the luxury of doctors and high profile sources like pro athletes then you can best be the hair is gonna go. I am bald, but you know what I like it better than with hair, when I had hair I had to put all that shit in it and style it, now I just shave it off, and let me tell you BALD is IN, I have had more bitches than ever, now that Im married its not that way now, but you know what being bald is sometimes bad, but sometimes good, you know I guess I was meant to be bald, because it hasnt hurt my game any, I am still or can I say I think Im sexier now bald, but you know what, if you start steroids, it is gonna be hard to constantly do them year in and year out without hair loss.......so make your decision.


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ORGANON CANON

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posted March 21, 2001 02:34 PM

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HUGE and HAIR (at least for now)


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If your in your early 20s and your thinning pretty badly---and your father is bald, then you are going to be bald sooner then you want-----Mine started thinning around 23 and when I was 27, i shaved it all off, of course I would rather have hair but I will tell you this, since I shaved it over 3 years ago. I never once worried about my hair---It used to stress me out all the time------I look better bald then thinning----When I was thinning, i looked 37 years old, now that im bald, I look under 27---I'll be 32 this month--It will take some getting used to from others, but if you plan on being jacked, you will look better jacked and bald then jacked and thinning badly----And remember, once its gone, you will never worry about it again----And just hope you have the head for it, and not one of those egg heads----Also Tanning is a must with a bald head--also facial hair---How many guys do you see with the comb over or guys that need a chin strap to hold their piece on, you can try to take all the things listed above but sooner then later it wont help you if your already losing it at 21.

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joeljuice, test and deca do not go well toghether if hairloss is an issue. don't get me wrong is not that thees 2 compuonds will cause more hairloss than others, but you can't use finasteride with deca, and finasteride is the best thing to take to stop hairloss form test.So try the cycle and use nizoral shampoo, maybe nothing will hapen to your hair. but if you notice hairloss, drop the deca, throw in some primo or eq, start the finasteride and froget test and deca toghether. hope this helps


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I could handle a little of both.

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SquatLord2k

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I think Wombat said it best of all the responses.

I will summarize the truths I have seen here.

1. if your already thinning and you're young, you are going to lose it. Rogaine, Propecia, etc are just delaying the inevitable. Think of how many goodies you could buy with all that money.

2. baldness does run on your mom's side, but I think it is more accurate to look at her father. If he is bald, you have a good chance.

3. the only people that don't look good bald are small people. I have never met a big guy who didn't look right with no hair.

4. if you are so worried about your hair, you are in the game for the wrong reason prettyboys. see above but you probably weigh under 200lbs and think you are big. you should also stop wasting every one else's juice and take up bicycling.

5. like wombat said, once you shave it off, you will not even notice it. Just remember to keep it shaved regulary otherwise you will look old.


That being said, I am considering trying some Nair (spelling?) products on the top of my head because I am so fucking sick of shaving it. Any experience here????


peace.
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This has always been a tough, stressful decision for me cause I'm kind of on the fence as far as my hair is concerned. I'm receded pretty bad but not to the point where I should shaving it clean. My mother's dad was almost bald as is her brother now so yes, I'm basically screwed but do I want to chance accelerating it or enjoy what I have for as long as possible. I could shave it now but I've got one of those heads that would not look good bald. I feel for the bros in this situation.


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Screw it man, if it's in your genes there nothing you can do! All the males on my dads side are bald or balding so now at 28 I've gotten pretty thin up top so what can you do? Either wear alot of hats or shave it! Last summer I just had my whole head shaved with a #1 and it looks great, you can't even tell. Maybe someday they will develop a cure but until then I'm keeping it short as I can!

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quote:
Originally posted by Pi Kappa Phi:
Lord your VERY WRONG about something. I care very much about my hair and if it came down to it i would stop if my hair was going. I weigh 242 (far from small) and i have been on the juice for over 4 years and i know what im doing. i just have priorities, and one of them is my hair. so to make an ignorant ass statement like that shows your lack of intelligence.

Who were you referring to? In my case I was thinning before I started a cycle so what do I have to lose? Now if I started thinning due to a cycle, hell yeah I would stop! Just be glad you don't have that problem cause theres nothing you can do about heredity.

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Here's the scoop on combatting baldness brought on by AS.

AS can only SPEED UP the process of balding - i.e. if you are genetically predisposed to balding it will cause it to occur sooner...if you are NOT genetically predisposed to balding then you have nothing to worry about.

Balding is caused by the conversion of testosterone to dihydrotestosterone (DHT) by the 5-alpha-reductase enzyme in the scalp. Genetically predisposed follicles are "attacked" by the DHT, and the follicle will continue to miniaturize until it is completely unable to produce hair. So obviously, if you are increasing serum levels of testosterone you are creating a problem for your hair as more DHT will also be produced.

There are a few ways to combat this. First, you can try a growth stimulant like Minoxidil (Rogaine). This sort of treatment will not protect the follicles in any way from the damage being caused by the DHT. It is simply a growth stimulant - it encourages the hair to grow.

Finasteride (Propecia, Proscar) would surely be more effective. It works by inhibiting the 5-ar enzyme which converts testosterone to DHT. Using finasteride will increase your testosterone levels and thus your estrogen levels though, which in turn can lead to sexual side effects, gynomecastia, etc. 95% of men won't experience any of that, but I don't know if the side effects would be worsened by use of AS.

There is a new topical product on the market called Revivogen (www.revivogen.com). This product works by inhibiting the 5-ar enzyme in the scalp directly. This in turn would prevent any conversion of testosterone to DHT in the scalp, thus supposely preventing any follicle damage. The jury is out on this one .. I wouldn't rely on it.

Perhaps the best treatment for use in this case would be topical spironolactone. Spiro is an androgen blocker - it will prevent all androgens from attaching to the hair follicle. Since baldness can technically be caused by any androgens, not just DHT, spiro seems like a great treatment. You can purchase a 2% topical alcohol based variation from www.minoxidil.com.

If anyone has any questions about any of this I'd be glad to help if I can.



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Huge and bald!

I agree with everything SquatLord said. What is this preoccupation with pretty hair? I have zero hairloss despite many years of heavy cycles, but I keep it in a really short crewcut...looks sexy that way with all the muscles (or so I've been told).

No baldness in my family on either side..all the old folks have tons of hair! (But premature grey on both sides...starting in one's 20s!)


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quote:
Originally posted by chillin408:
look at skip la cour,hes bald and natural

Hahahhaaha!!!


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If you start going bald just shave your head.........if you do see signs that means your going go bald anyway. Be a man and shave your head.

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I really dont look good with a shaved head but dont think will really have a choice so I might as well do and get it over with this sucks I am only 21. Might as well be stupid looking with muscles.


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quote:
Originally posted by GLP:
I really dont look good with a shaved head but dont think will really have a choice so I might as well do and get it over with this sucks I am only 21. Might as well be stupid looking with muscles.

GLP - your being too hard on yourself man, your not alone! Shave it off - you might be surprised at how good you look! You never know till you try - It hasn't stopped me or several of my friends from getting laid! Chicks like that short haired look and they dig the bald heads too so don't worry about it!

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Theirs probably already a cure for baldness-----but their is to much money to be made without a cure!


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