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 INSULIN MADE ME DIABETIC!!
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Novice 
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Thats what I dont want to be posting in a few weeks. How does one iu after each workout sound? I've heard bad things. Advice/tips anyone? Thanks     | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 924 |
How does it sound? It sounds like you need to pick a new piece of gear to use. Insulin is risky...but can be worth the gains if willing to take that risk. You are not willing...so don't use it at all... B True | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 155 |
You've answered your own question, bro. Diabetes is some serious shit and you'll have it for life. Not worth it if you ask me. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 478 |
There are two types of diabetes. Stage one and two. People that administer insulin that are not diabetic CAN NOT get stage one diabetes. Stage one is the worst kind. It is hereditary. Now if you get stage two, chances are that your pancreas will start to produce insulin regularly again, thus it isnt for life. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 618 |
Bump, i too am considering using it and what all the input i can find. Experieces, dosages, ect. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 478 |
Search "Monster's Insulin Primer". It will give you all the info needed! | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 559 |
In my opinion, recreational AS users do not need GH, insulin, massive stacks or anything else that is only useful for competition. Period. Unless they want to of course. lol ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 113 |
TD24....wrong-ole-ah Bro.... BZR | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1442 |
Do your research first... You can't become a diabetic by using insulin. 1 iu wont do shit. I started seeing something with 10iu after the workout followed by a protein drink with 50g protein and 100g dextrose. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 702 |
quote: you are correct my big friend. Very tru. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1306 |
If you are doing anything less than 4IU, there really won't be much effect...i.e, it's not worth doing. | ||
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Novice
Posts: 2 |
I just finished insulin for the first time. It was a very positive experience. Kicked me up 10 good pounds in a hurry. The key is to get the timing right. You will need 10 grams of simple carbs to offset each IU of insulin. Immediately afer a workout inject 10 IU's of Insulin. You will now have about 15 minutes before you go hypo-glycemic. The key is to take in 100 grams of simple carbs. Carbo Force is perfect as it has 105 grams. Also, mix 20 grams of creatine and 20 grams of glutamine with the Carb drink. Slam the mixture. All of that shit will be slammed into your muscle. You will feel unbelievably full. One hour later eat a high carb high protein meal. Follow this plan and you will be just fine. Another way is to take the Insulin before the workout and slam the drink 15 minutes into it. This is a little more tricky. Just be sure to have simple carbs at arms length and a training partner that knows whats going on. Hypo-glycemia can make you cold, sweaty, and dissoriented. If you feel it coming on, slam the carbs baby. Peace, Iron Slinger | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 45 |
please guys be careful, 1st its measured in units not ius, 2nd there are 4 types of insulins, do you know their live (when they start to spike when they are done) yes you can become diabetic, just like juice when outside source of test is administered the testies shut down, atrophy, well the same with your pancreas but it wont start back up. dont believe me want a list of bbers fryed b/c of it now. my use is limited 6 week cycles twice a year maybe 3 humilin r 3 shots a day 4units per shot that is at the 4 line not the 40 after meal 1 after meal 3 and after meal 5 it has a 2 hr spike and dies in the 4th hour. you need 10grams of carbs for each unit and dont take in any fats those days or youll be fat 3 days on 2 days off but no i dont think you should even be considering it | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 2018 |
Hey, been around a long time... What do you think "iu" stands for?? INTERNATION UNIT. ------------------ "Catch a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he eats for a lifetime." | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1442 |
Originally posted by beenaroundalongtime: "1st its measured in units not ius" iu = international units "2nd there are 4 types of insulins" There are more than 4 types of insulins, bodybuilders usually use Humulin R (r for regular) or Humalog. "yes you can become diabetic, just like juice when outside source of test is administered the testies shut down, atrophy, well the same with your pancreas but it wont start back up. dont believe me want a list of bbers fryed b/c of it now." Insulin can't cause type I diabetis (insulin dependant) My little brother is an insulin dependant diabetic and I know a shit load about the disease. You could produce type 2 diabetis (insulin resistance) this is reversible. In order to get diabetes you would have to purposely try to have insulin levels high all the time. Like take a long lasting insulin and making sure your insulin levels are up around the clock for many weeks. Name me some names bro!!! I still wouldn't recommend more than 4-6 weeks at a time though. 4 units at a time wont do shit... If it's humalog avoid fat for 2-4 hours. If it's humulin R avoid eating fat for 4-6 hours after the shot. One thing I agree with is that insulin is not for newbies and in my opinion it's gains are overated. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 19 |
If you dont want to worry about it---THEN DONT TAKE IT! Your gains from AS should be enough, right??? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 45 |
beau matlock | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1442 |
First time I hear the name Beau Matlock. The dude looks good! So your saying he became an insulin dependant diabetic by using insulin? If it's type II that doesn't count and is reversible. If it's type I than it maybe possible only if it is heriditary. Did his parents or grandparents have diabetes? Also did he tell you this or is it just word of mouth? ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 40 |
td24, you are very wrong... stage I diabetes is NOT just caused by hereditary... also, it's known as Type I and Type II... not stages.... the only difference between them is that one requires insulin, and the other is diet controlled and also may need an oral pill... and it is NOT always true that your pancreas will start to secrete insulin again with type II.. most of the time, type II diabetics turn into type I's.... in either case, I would not screw around with insulin... I have seen some pretty bad diabetic cases.... and none of ya'll would want to deal with it.... you think a roid rage is bad?? try seeing how you act when your blood sugar is around 30 mg/dl..... | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 844 |
If your posting this you need to much more research. You can't become diabetic by using it. As mentioned above read monsters post on insulin, best source of info out there on it. Make sure you have what you need to do down before you start using it. The two down sides to slin is that you can fuck yourself up if you don't follow directions and also if you don't monitor your diet remarkably close insulin will turn you into a fat pig. Be careful and good luck. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 40 |
using insulin CAN turn you into a diabetic.... think of this analogy.. if you take an assload amount of test, then your natural testosterone levels will be way low, and can possibly even cause infertility... since your pancreas secretes insulin on an "as needed" basis, if it doesn't for a long period of time, then it will shut down... I have seen this happen before... | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 45 |
its direct word, and he is insulin dependent now, smooth and unable to compete again at that level which sucks he was truly blessed. again i dont know a thing of the medical background of how these things happen just trying to pass on some personal info to inform when i can i also know 1st hand that i have developed pancreaitis(spelling) which is scary probaly from the gh/insulin what it means i dont know, i will be doing alot of blood work soon as my show is over |
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posted March 20, 2001 05:28 PM