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ROIDRANGER

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posted March 20, 2001 04:51 PM

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about 2 minutes ago, my first time---i hit(0.25cc)into each rear delt....
...already starting to feel weird..
sick to my stomach--havent eaten except this morning..
getting clammy and starting to sweat..
...oh my i need to shit--be back...
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..ok already back---false alarm just alot of gas
..think ill lay for a little while, since i feel sicker sitting in this chair...
...i took pepto(hate taste of that)about 5 min. before injection...and now im sipping on gatorade....

when will i be able to eat????

also im starting to knot//hurt pretty bad in the right side, but nothing in the left---is this common---i mean my shoulders are still big and i had a little trouble reaching the rear delts---
----did i maybe hit between side and rear dealt on the side thats not hurting?????

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MUSTANG_18

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posted March 20, 2001 05:01 PM

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LOL! GOOD LUCK WITH THAT STUFF BRO! YOU BETTER GO OUT AN INVEST IN A SHIT LOAD OF TOILET PAPER

M18

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ROIDRANGER

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posted March 20, 2001 05:29 PM

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well everything has already subsided for right now, except the knot in the right rear delt(its uncomfortable, but doesnt really hurt---but i been thru a shit load of pain recently)again nothing at all in the left...

..i went to gag once but just cleared alot of 'foamy' slavia out....and know just drinking water...

...i have yet to go to the bathroom...

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ROIDRANGER

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posted March 20, 2001 05:49 PM

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also should i hit it later again tonight?????

originally was just going to do it once today to try it out....and pick the pace up tommorow....

..well i need to eat so..,later

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Jback

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posted March 20, 2001 06:14 PM

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keep us posted-I've ben toying around with doing 2 weeks of bis, tris and delts.

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Mass Monster

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posted March 20, 2001 06:29 PM

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Hey RoidRanger sounds good, buddy! Also thanks for the earlier advice it worked and my nuts fine I guess that d-bol is some good shit

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ultragainz

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posted March 20, 2001 06:31 PM

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cool bro....how much you going to go up to?

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Checkmatebloated

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posted March 20, 2001 06:33 PM

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It ain't worth the pain. That is my personal opinion. Unless you really have a part lagging.


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SHREADER

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posted March 20, 2001 08:09 PM

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Ranger what is your dosage and administration plan look like. Keep us posted.


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BruZer

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posted March 20, 2001 09:25 PM

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You can hit the specific sites as many times per day as you can stand it....the more often you jack, the better the growth....it's much better to take several small dosages, than 1 or 2 big ones....sometimes ya get the shits, other times ya fart....the clammy, sweaty feeling was hypoglycemia(low blood sugar) due to not eating....next time have a simple carb 1/2 hour before ya inject, or gluclose tabs before and after....this will help alot

After your stomach settles down, have a nice protein shke, this aids in the prostgland. effectivness....

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ROIDRANGER

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posted March 20, 2001 09:54 PM

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im f*cked in the head--have to be--cause i think i like it...and about to do another here in a few...

....didnt have schedule in mind just decided to try it cause i cant lift anyway right now....anyway --the sides quickly calmed(did 0.25cc into ea. rear delt)and then i ate a pretty big meal and feel geared up, i have no pain any more(never had any in left at all which kinda bothered me, thinking i hit in b/t the muscles)

ive shit once since then and it was pretty solid--think b/c the liquid pepto i took right before..ill make sure i take it again...

..ultagainz said on his active post now..that he heard someone LOST size from pgf2---anyone else hear this???

what do these BOTTLES run for anyway--i only have one and got it a long time ago....and wondering what you pay for them....

well here i go again...later

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Zeke_B

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posted March 20, 2001 10:52 PM

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If you can get a vet script, you can order
via the internet for $17 30ml. I think most
sources charge in the $50-$60 range.

I don't know how familiar y'all are with the
Pepto. It turns your poop a dark gray
sometimes...don't freak out and think you
are dying.


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WC

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posted March 20, 2001 10:56 PM

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I couldnt get the bad sides to kick in until I went up to 1cc per delt at once(2cc total). I started just like you .25cc in ea delt, no probs, no pain, etc, but I could feel it swell a bit. the next day I hit .75cc per delt, no stomach probs, etc. So later that day, I hit 1cc per delt, and got the explosive shits. I hit .75cc per delt 5x per day. I did 2 weeks, and my delts, after 2 weeks of stopping use are still much bigger than before.


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ROIDRANGER

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posted March 20, 2001 10:56 PM

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just did 1/4cc into outer tri's,

stomach starting to rumble some..

ZEKE_B whats the likelyhood of getting a vet script???? do you have one????

ill edit this in a little...

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cannons

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posted March 20, 2001 11:54 PM

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Hey ranger, I am on right now and love what it is doing for me. It has only ben 1 week and I can see growth in my delts and bis. Those are the only areas that I feel need a little help.I am at 50 ius 3X aday,bis,delt,bis. I have a little love handle problem right now, next step is to start injecting in them 3 X a day a long with my other body parts. any body have any insight on dosage for the love handles? email me , or respond here. Talk to you later.

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BruZer

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posted March 21, 2001 12:38 AM

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Getting a Vet script.....

No. 1...You must know a little bit about cattle, or at least own a few.

No. 2...It helps to know your Vet.

No. 3...Need knowledge about cattle and estrus, and their cycles. (not steroid cycles either)

No. 4 Know what PGF2A is used for in reguards to cattle(bringing them into heat) and the use of Gonatropin(HCG) in conjunction with the PGF2A

No. 5...Always nice to have a farm, or at least a little land.

No. 6...You need it to bring all your cattle into heat at the same time, so they are with calves when they are shipped to the stock yard.

No. 7...And something overlooked....buy supplements for the Bull, because you're working his nuts off.

No. 8...And the most important. Say shucks, God Almighty, Shitfire, I'll declare, Yup and nope alot. Reek of cow shit, helps to add a bit to your shitkickers(boots). Must have a permanate faded Skoal Ring on the left rear pocket of your nuthugging Wrangler jeans. And ask if he has the new George Jones album....Most old Vet's don't know there is such a thing as cassetts, or much less CD's.....Even then, there is no sure fire way.....heh heh heh....just my opinion dude....

BZR


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horse

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posted March 21, 2001 09:04 AM

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what size needle did you use?


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Osiris

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posted March 21, 2001 09:10 AM

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If you can get a script from a vet, what are a few good sites to order from on the internet??
thanks
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BruZer

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Just want to point out to all of you....don't jump in the fire and buy 10 vials of this shit. It's certainly not for everyone....you will enjoy the pain, and the pumped feeling for the first week or so, everyone goes through that.

THEN, you will get " Needle Phobia " you will actually cringe at the sight of any pin....the pain may become worse because of it....that's when you need to put your right hand in the pocket of your jeans and give a big squeeze to see if ya got a big enough pair of nuts to continue the process.....if you do....Welcome to the Brotherhood of Pain...

AAnd to answer an earlier question....you use a slin pin....28 ga. works very well if fact...

BZR


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted March 21, 2001 12:03 PM

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"Permanent faded skoal ring on your nut-hugger wranglers"MWAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!!!!


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cannons

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posted March 21, 2001 02:36 PM

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huck, what do you think about love handle injections? What do you think the dosage should be? Talk to you later.

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted March 21, 2001 02:39 PM

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Actually,I haven't experimented with sub-Q injections yet,only I.M.,But Jeff_Rys is an expert in this category,so hopefully he will lend us a hand...


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Jeff_rys

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posted March 21, 2001 04:38 PM

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Yes Huck, i will jump in.
First of all, you should use a 30 gauge to shoot. I drew up with a 30 gauge BUT this was with the 5 cc's vials, with the XX cc bottle it is harder to do so. (You have the 30 cc's Upjohn Lutalyse, but here in Belgium we had the 5 cc's and now the 10 cc's bottles.
As for the love handles (or any part of the upper body) yes you can shoot them. You can shoot the abs, sides, lower back, obliques, in fact where ever you want. For the love handles just stick a 1/2 inch needle in it, since there you will find only muscle and fat (so my doc said). As for the back, pull the skin out, then shoot, so you won't hit the kidneys (hehehe). Since the abs muscle is minimum 1/2 inch - 1 inch tick (mine is 0.7 inch tick, i had an echo), so counting the skin and fat, you will never get into an organ. But if you are afraid there are also 1/4 inch needles. As for shooting in a vein, i don't know, in my opinion i must have hit a vein, since sometimes one of the arms felt very different, BUT i do not have prove of that. I am on it now for 2 months using 2 cc's a day, at once, and if not hitting the bi's, but hitting the tris, this is a breese. Really one or two coughs, no sweat, no pain, but i get cold hands and painfull feet.
I thought i was on the right track for gains, but no, no gains.
Also i do not believe in using 7-8 cc's will do the trick. When i used 4.5 cc's merely in the bi's and tri's, i gained 1/2 inch BUT loosed this when stopping the shots in the arms. So if i would have hit them with double dose, i would have gained maybe 3/4 inch, BUT still had lost everything. You can gain on 4-5 cc's, no problem, but i couldn't keep the gains. Maybe when you are very young, like in your 20-s, it is different.
Also i do not use extra protein, or anything.
Or maybe it's an insulin question?
It is in the first place a cutting drug.
You will look better when using it, but that doesn't mean muscle gains.
But he, this is only me. I cannot speak for anybody else.

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ROIDRANGER

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posted March 21, 2001 11:12 PM

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just got home been busy all day---and havent shot at all(pissed)--so im doing it now--since itll only be once today ill up the dose somewhere b/t 0.35-0.50cc per delt....

i shit you not girlfriend of mine came over that i havent seen in few days; shirt was off and the first thing out her mouth was: "what shit are you back on!!!"
she said i was "alot more veiny, tight and little fuller"

probaly try the 'love handles' here in few days...

well im off to do my buisness, see yall in the morning...

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted March 21, 2001 11:16 PM

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Thanks as always for your insight Jeff


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'ORCHITIS'

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posted March 21, 2001 11:19 PM

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I have read a ton of posts here on PGF2a, and almost all of them were against injecting around the love handles or waist-line. I was told this because it is supossedly very painful, by causing major cramps.

Is this info true, or overexaggerated???

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BruZer

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posted March 21, 2001 11:30 PM

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True if it's an IM injection....you can get by with a Sub-cu though....

BZR


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'ORCHITIS'

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quote:
Originally posted by BruZer:
True if it's an IM injection....you can get by with a Sub-cu though....
BZR

Thanks bro! Your info was music to my ears.

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Jeff_rys

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posted March 22, 2001 04:31 AM

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Anything Huck, you know that.
Remember Roidranger, when shooting the fat, the Lutalyse gets transported faster.

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cannons

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posted March 22, 2001 08:34 AM

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Thanks huck & jeff, Your insite is very good. I hit the love handles with no problems.(25 ius each side) I have had some problems hitting the wieght I usually use. I know that this is normal, but I don't have to like it.
Thanks again bros.

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ROIDRANGER

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so JEFF what does getting transpoted faster do~~~~

also my exp. last night wasnt the best, i think i rather get the shits, cause i dont and im thinking its from the pepto--blocking me up.....and last night i coughed twice, then threw up--to where it strained throat...i hit the rear delts @ 0.45cc ea. from 0.25cc ...ill try w/ out the pepto so it can come out the right end this time...

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Jeff_rys

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Roidranger, NOT getting the shits should not be of any concern. Normally i take one herb pill every day, so i can go everyday. When starting the Lutalyse, even with 2 cc's shot at once, it took me about a month before the sh*ts came and all that time i still took the herb pill.
As for shooting the fat, the Lutalyse gets into the lungs very fast, faster then when shooting the muscle, so the muscle tries to hold on to the PGF. So you could get a very intense attack into the lungs, more sweat on the face, more chills. But maybe this depends on the person, certainly on the dose.
But you get used to this.

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Has any one tried hiting thier Quads with pgf2??


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Jeff_rys

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Yes, i tried. You will not be able to walk straight. So you can only shoot them when at home sitting before TV.
Imaging shooting the left quad and going to your work. Everybody will ask you what is the matter with your left leg. And the day after your right. Shooting them both at once and you will need a wheel-chair. If not having this problem, you are shooting not enough.

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well i just hit those love handles, 0.30cc into ea. side, started to feel it kick and i just went and sat in the bathroom room for 20mins. and sipped water; my sides ache a little, it did rush the lungs faster as JEFF_RYS stated it would--but seems like it subsided quicker also...

...the thing is though, that i have a knot where i injected on the right side and not the left...

so far i liked hitting the tri's the best, they swelled up nice and hurt so good(felt good to get that sore-ache for not being able to workout)----as for the others delts, and 'handles' just have that little annoying achey feeling so far and feel sick..

well im gonna get something to eat, couple caps of blast "g knock-off" , and take a nap, since i didnt sleep for shit last night since the lady and i are getting along--4x!!!!

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