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BigMFCountry

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posted March 20, 2001 01:16 PM

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What kind of side effects should I expect from this cycle?
I've read profiles on both and asked around, but now I read this board and people are talking about water retention and increased estrogen levels and the need for Clomid an Novalex. I talk to body builders in the gym and they claim none of the above is true.

Please help


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lawnsaver

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posted March 20, 2001 01:35 PM

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A 12 week cycle is fine. What doses??

I would do 300mg of each. At those doses you will find a synergy and also not have to deal with the sides at those doses. I would have clomid for the end, but the nolvadex shouldnt be needed.

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thermo

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posted March 20, 2001 04:30 PM

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why dont you just use one or the other , why both


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Anabolix

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posted March 20, 2001 07:23 PM

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I'm also planning on that. But my cycle right now would be:

Week 1 - 10 = EQ 200MG
Week 1 - 10 = DECA 300MG
Week 6 - 10 = WINNY 300MG

What do you guys think?!


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deify

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posted March 20, 2001 09:39 PM

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Anabolix, you know what I think? I think that looks like a pretty friggin good cycle. You won't have to worry about gyno at all because the winny will block the progesterone receptors. The only change I would make is to do the winny from week 7-11 or 8-12. This will allow for more of a taper and let your body adjust from being off the stronger anabolic compounds. I am actually inspired.... I say this is the summertime cycle. Three cheers!


Ps: you may experience mild deca dick nearing the end so keep some clomid on hand. Also use a little post cycle.

pps: let me guess, with those dosages I'd say that you're using Ttokkyo products.

over and out,
deify


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lawnsaver

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posted March 20, 2001 10:51 PM

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If your worried about deca dick, pick up some proviron and take 25mg ed until the clomid starts. This will do the trick.

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BigMFCountry

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posted March 21, 2001 08:44 AM

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Again, I hear almost everyone talk about clomid for the end of the cycle. I talked to some guys in the gym and they all say its not necessary to use clomid after deca.

As for deca dick, I'm new to this. What is it and where would I find proviron?

This is what my cycle is going to look like
weeks.........deca...........eq
1-3...........300mg..........100mg
4-9...........600mg..........200mg
10-12.........450mg..........150mg


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BigMFCountry

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posted March 21, 2001 01:25 PM

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Also how much clomid should I use?


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BigMFCountry

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posted March 21, 2001 04:14 PM

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lawnsaver

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posted March 21, 2001 06:33 PM

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28 tabs, but 32 would be better.

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nyironman

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posted March 21, 2001 09:12 PM

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dont you guys know that eq and deca are almost identical?? you dont mix the 2 thats like taking a-50 and d-bal. if youre looking for hardness and less water retention go 4 eq
for strength and a bit more size use deca.
do some research before you reach for the pin!!


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Anabolix

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posted March 21, 2001 09:21 PM

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Nyironman - I don't agree with you. They may be similar, but not the same. They can do wonders together... i've never tried, but heard that it's better to use both, with smaller dosages, than one with higher dosages... like Lawnsaver always talks about, they bring on a SYNERGY ( spelling? )... Thankx!

Anabolix


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deify

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posted March 21, 2001 09:21 PM

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NYironman, I suggest you do the research. And for the record, I like anabolix cycle much better than BigMFcountry. He's asking for deca dick w/ 600 mgs and no gains from the EQ with dosages like 100 or 150mgs per week.


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