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ultragainz

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posted March 20, 2001 11:57 AM

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damn that pic when his arm is hanging down is great...wow!!!!iam not a big fan of synthol but iam thinking of useing it..(maybe not)....but i need some info on it..if i use it and will my muscle still grow where synthol is at?like i hear about some workouts where people have gained a 1/2in on there bis well that happen if you take synthol?well you always need synthol to grow your muscle?and i hear that it causes cancer cells it that true?what are the long term sides?.and dose strenght still go up after synthol?like if i take it on my bis tris delts and traps..my arms are 20.5in and i dont wnat them to turn into 25in after synthol...maybe a 1 or a 2 is good..but i might NOT use synthol iam thinking of PGF2a...sounds better....later

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Androl

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posted March 20, 2001 02:21 PM

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BUMP ! i'd like to know more too.. not that i want to use it but i'd like to know what % of the gains from winstrol will be permanent.


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GetPandP

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posted March 20, 2001 03:16 PM

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Winstrol and Synthol gains are TOTALLY UNRELATED!!!

To answer the synthol questions-
Now you will have to ask Meanie, but I BELEIVE, unless he's changed it since Friday (we belong to the same gym), that it goes something like this-
Wide grip Barbell curls - 2-3 set, sometimes superheavy (I've personally witnessed him cheat curl over 200 pounds like it wasn't shit for 7 reps, some said he was doing more on some crazy anadrol/test cycle of his), sometimes lighter for 10-15 reps. ALWAYS INTENSE! It basicly looks like he slings the bar up and quickly as possible, not turning it into a "Clean" but just a very quick contraction, and he does lean back and forth a bit, but I've seen worse. Lowers it...fairly slowly, not that lowering 200 pounds with an underhand grip is easy I could imagine, but dosen't let it stretch all the way out with an explosion just before the bottom moving the weight back up.

Then it's like 2-4 sets of seated curls, and that's about all I know. You'll have to ask him, or better yet, come fucking watch him, lord knows everyone else in the gym looks at his GOOFY ass (nothing but love meanie), so if your in cleveland Ohio, tell us. We don't do anything illegal - I sell posing oil, and he has a somewhat "Normal" job - so no worries on our end about if you turn out to be a cop (don't expect to live too long in Cleveland if you are however).

Anyways, strength gains will not be hindered by synthol. It does nothing to increase or decrease your body's ability to contract muscle fibers, and it does not hinder natural tissue thickening. Mean says he get's really mental while working out because of the awesome pumps...maybe that helps him out?

If oil causes cancer cells we are all in trouble, lol. I would love to hear the reasoning behind how oil will increase the growth of tumors. LOL.

I'll let Meanie handle it from here on out.

(BTW - all customers, been really HUNG UP at work, I haven't forgotten about you, having my delivery schedule has been FUCKED because about 5 lab techs quite and walked out at the same time last week, leaving me kinda fucked as the super. I hope you understand, sorry I haven't gotten to emails either, will be handling this as well.)

-GetPandP

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ultragainz

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posted March 20, 2001 06:29 PM

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nice post bro....so i dont get why you are telling me his workout? do i have to change my workout if i use synthol(maybe not going to use..pgf2a i might use).....so my muscle still can grow even without synthol?i dont know if i should use it...my arms are 20.5in..andi DONT want them to hit 25in...iam only 228 and it wont look to good then...plus my friend has a friend that wants to use it....should i let him use it first and see what he says?LOL.....but his arms are 14.5-15in....i think he is only 160 or lower...but the kid can curl over 125 for reps...has gentics in the bis.....but should i go with pgf2a instead of synthol?....i hear some people say pgf2a made them lose size......later

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MeanOne

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posted March 20, 2001 07:38 PM

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My guys would be he told you about how I worked out because you asked to hear about some peoples training programs, lol. Maybe that slipped your mind.

In any matter, if you want to know how I workout, that's difficult because it switches if I'm on or off cycles.

I would tell your friend to add some more mass w/o synthol. If he uses synthol, he runs the risk of developing oil lumps as he may not have the muscle mass to support a large volume of oil. I don't understand why people like PG...I may not ever, so I can't really tell you about it's effects or anything along those lines because I have personally never used it simply because of avaliability, cost, when balanced against results.

I would guess, as indicated by my increasing levels of strength that Synthol would not hinder mass gains. A larger muscle is normally stronger as the two factors are somewhat related.

Like GetPandP said, Cancer cells, lol. Too funny based on it's even theory - if it has one which I doubt.


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Fonz

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posted March 20, 2001 07:47 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by MeanOne:
My guys would be he told you about how I worked out because you asked to hear about some peoples training programs, lol. Maybe that slipped your mind.

In any matter, if you want to know how I workout, that's difficult because it switches if I'm on or off cycles.

I would tell your friend to add some more mass w/o synthol. If he uses synthol, he runs the risk of developing oil lumps as he may not have the muscle mass to support a large volume of oil. I don't understand why people like PG...I may not ever, so I can't really tell you about it's effects or anything along those lines because I have personally never used it simply because of avaliability, cost, when balanced against results.

I would guess, as indicated by my increasing levels of strength that Synthol would not hinder mass gains. A larger muscle is normally stronger as the two factors are somewhat related.

Like GetPandP said, Cancer cells, lol. Too funny based on it's even theory - if it has one which I doubt.




Next time I'm in the states I'm coming over
to Cleveland...LOL
1100lb Leg presses...........400lb Squats......
I am the GYM FREAK at my UNI...Hehe....
Nothing like some healthy competition.LOL

Godspeed



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ironbarbarian

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posted March 20, 2001 07:50 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by Fonz:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by MeanOne:
[b]My guys would be he told you about how I worked out because you asked to hear about some peoples training programs, lol. Maybe that slipped your mind.

In any matter, if you want to know how I workout, that's difficult because it switches if I'm on or off cycles.

I would tell your friend to add some more mass w/o synthol. If he uses synthol, he runs the risk of developing oil lumps as he may not have the muscle mass to support a large volume of oil. I don't understand why people like PG...I may not ever, so I can't really tell you about it's effects or anything along those lines because I have personally never used it simply because of avaliability, cost, when balanced against results.

I would guess, as indicated by my increasing levels of strength that Synthol would not hinder mass gains. A larger muscle is normally stronger as the two factors are somewhat related.

Like GetPandP said, Cancer cells, lol. Too funny based on it's even theory - if it has one which I doubt.


Next time I'm in the states I'm coming over
to Cleveland...LOL
1100lb Leg presses...........400lb Squats......
I am the GYM FREAK at my UNI...Hehe....
Nothing like some healthy competition.LOL

Godspeed

[/B][/QUOTE]


LOL


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Pharm Animal

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posted March 20, 2001 08:02 PM

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in a pure physics-mindset, it does affect strength. the strongest contractile tissue is located in the center of the muscle, where the fibers are straight. they are weaker in the outer surfaces of the muscle, due to the curve that the contraction must take place along. the curve places added resistance and lowers efficiency to the muscle fibers. so with that said, if you were to increase this curve in the muscle fibers by adding oil deposits into the muscle (which is replacing the space once occupied by contractile tissue), these same fibers become more inefficient and therefore the same contractile force in those fibers are not as efficient as before, in terms of how much weight can be lifted by the user.

also....any tissue in your body exposed to any irritant or chemical that is not indigenous to that tissue has the possibility to be carcinogenic....and synthol has not been around for too long....so who knows what the long-term effects could be for these products?

PA


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MeanOne

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posted March 20, 2001 08:05 PM

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Okay Fonz, I think you should stop by. I don't get into strength games when I lift, but it always fun to make an exception sometimes . Be warned - my first 2 years of training where for powerlifting/football so it might get interesting.

1100 lbs leg press is nothing to shake a stick at. Some short dude in my gym does between 1760-1800lbs (depending on who he has sitting on the weight plates on the sled) for like 8 reps, but screw that! I like my lower back too much to risk that kind of injury. I actually think leg presses are more dangerous than even squats when your lower back is concerned, because of how they force you to roll your pelvis up towards the bottom.

I would invite practically anyone who plans on being in cleveland to give me a shout out, it would be kick ass...you guys would get to see why Ohio has more juicers than ANY other state (yes including california). Hell if you want I could probably introduce you to a former IFBB guy who lives about 2 hours away (does anyone still remember Francios? Big powerlifter guy turned Bodybuilder...won the Arnold and several other shows.)


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Fonz

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quote:
Originally posted by MeanOne:
Okay Fonz, I think you should stop by. I don't get into strength games when I lift, but it always fun to make an exception sometimes . Be warned - my first 2 years of training where for powerlifting/football so it might get interesting.

1100 lbs leg press is nothing to shake a stick at. Some short dude in my gym does between 1760-1800lbs (depending on who he has sitting on the weight plates on the sled) for like 8 reps, but screw that! I like my lower back too much to risk that kind of injury. I actually think leg presses are more dangerous than even squats when your lower back is concerned, because of how they force you to roll your pelvis up towards the bottom.

I would invite practically anyone who plans on being in cleveland to give me a shout out, it would be kick ass...you guys would get to see why Ohio has more juicers than ANY other state (yes including california). Hell if you want I could probably introduce you to a former IFBB guy who lives about 2 hours away (does anyone still remember Francios? Big powerlifter guy turned Bodybuilder...won the Arnold and several other shows.)



1100lbs for reps. Thats 20 at a pop. 1100lbs is ALL
the WEIGHTS my gym has.LOL Its a Uni gym what
can I say. I think I could push 1800-1900lbs if I
popped 30mg Halo before-hand. The only problem
over here is that nobody at my Uni is as strong as
me....hehe..so I have to do the weights by myself
and re-rack for everybody else. Takes forever.
It woud be interesting to show you Ohio boys
what powerlifiting is all about. Remember I've
been to Romania, Bulgaria , and Turkey.
Home of the best powerlifters in the world today.
Soulimanyogle......if thats spelt right. never could
spell it. The guys is FREAKY. He is the strongest
powerlifter per lb of weight in the world.
Worked out with him once in Romania. I miss
that place. I swear MeanOne, you wouldn't
last 10 minutes at that gym......most hard-core
gym I've ever been. NOBODY under 210lbs.
A 300lb bench is considered WEAK.
I was struggling big-time with 350lbs
and people were raising their eyebrows at me
...LOL

Godspeed


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ultragainz

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posted March 20, 2001 08:58 PM

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well speaking of strenght "Fonz" can you shoulder press over 315 standing up???..LOL.....ultragainz can....i dont leg press a lot cuz i need my knees in the future..LOL....i might squat close to my max sometimes...same with leg press but cant remember when i leg pressed a lot....so know with the sythol it can slow strenght gainz?but i hear it cant.....not sure i worry about that when i use synthol....the odds of me useing synthol are very low.....later

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DREXX

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posted March 20, 2001 09:18 PM

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I missed the pics and the search isnt working

Someone pls post the pics or a link...

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posted March 20, 2001 09:25 PM

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WOW WORKS OUT THAT HARD AND STILL NEEDS SYNTHOL.......HMMMMMMMM

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Fonz

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quote:
Originally posted by Bigdiesel:
WOW WORKS OUT THAT HARD AND STILL NEEDS SYNTHOL.......HMMMMMMMM




MeanOne gets another Synthol call-out.......LOL

Godspeed


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MeanOne

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posted March 20, 2001 09:32 PM

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DREXX, look above, it's the top post, before this anyways, just look for my name in the topic starter Column.

Bigdeisel- why are you a seathing pile of jealousy? Just curious, first I have lumpy bi's, now it suprises you I work hard while using synthol? Synthol isn't the big fuckin' crutch everyone seems to think it is. What good will it do you if you add 2 inches, but atrophy 3 because your a lazy ass? Oh well, I'm sure your arms are HUGE so I probably shouldn't talk.


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DREXX

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posted March 20, 2001 09:37 PM

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Got it thanks...

I need to open my eyes more


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Fonz

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quote:
Originally posted by MeanOne:
DREXX, look above, it's the top post, before this anyways, just look for my name in the topic starter Column.

Bigdeisel- why are you a seathing pile of jealousy? Just curious, first I have lumpy bi's, now it suprises you I work hard while using synthol? Synthol isn't the big fuckin' crutch everyone seems to think it is. What good will it do you if you add 2 inches, but atrophy 3 because your a lazy ass? Oh well, I'm sure your arms are HUGE so I probably shouldn't talk.



19.25" here. I can feel them deflating already.....<sob>
5"8.5 though...

Godspeed


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ultragainz

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posted March 20, 2001 10:00 PM

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"meanone" is right synthol is NOT a big deal...i might not use it cuz my bis are already good but if i was to use it who cares...

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MeanOne

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posted March 20, 2001 10:49 PM

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Injury's don't count Fonz, your not lazy...welcome to real football though, lol.

Ultra, don't let all the haters of synthol bother you. I've stated this before. I bodybuild to build my body, not too be the macho asshole from hell. My goal is to have the largest muscle bellies possible. Synthol is nothing more than a logical progression towards acheiving the goal. Kind of like steriods are the first logical step. However, people dismiss them, as they persist with the "ETHICAL SENSE" of muscle being muscle. However, I don't care that it's all 100% muscle, hell, when you juice your intramuscular fluid levels grow through the roof, has is that any better than using synthol? Oh because you don't inject those? Bullshit.
Secondly, there are no terrible health risks to worry about. No, it can NOT spawn tumor growth, no it will need give you a heart attack as soon as you inject it, and no, it will not give you a lumpified appearance once you learn how to inject it correctly.
If you are a powerlifter, or a strength athlete I can understand the opposition to it, but even strength athletes use it (Hubert Manifred or whatever his name is with the 27 inch arms).


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