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Jan

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posted March 20, 2001 05:32 AM

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This is document about Sustanon which I did few years ago and you could find it on several places on the Internet. Now I have my own domain, not in english, but this document is in english language available for you.
http://www.ifbb.cz/sustanon_en.htm

Take care

Jan

BTW: if you find it useful, let me know


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body72

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posted March 20, 2001 06:00 AM

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Very nice and itresting document i agree with you. During that kind of only sust stack u think is necessary an anti estrogen like arimidex, cytadren or proviron? And what about hcg and Clomid at the end?
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Jan

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posted March 20, 2001 06:12 AM

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I will have to write a document about HCG - it is better to use it through the cycle than just right after when it blows estrogens in your system.

HCG mimics the actions of LH and FSH and can be used to jump start the gonads Leydig cells This is only a short-term solution as HCG does nothing to increase secretion of LH and FSH and GnRH AND because the bigger response you get from the Leydig cells the more the hypothalamus will downregulate GnRH, LH, and FSH because of increased estrogen which is why you have to take an anti-estrogen with HCG.

But back to your question, antiestrogens during cycle with Sustanon depends on various things like how much Sustanon you take, how you are sensitive for gyno, etc.
If you have no problems with gyno during cycle, do not need to take it. After cycle it is wise always take stuff like Clomid, Clenbuterol, etc.

Jan


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body72

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posted March 20, 2001 06:42 AM

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Thx, i hope that u will write some thing else in english also on other product. I don't know were u come from but from what i see on yoursite u are from some were in the east Europe i'm from Italy and i have a question about Naposim of Romania and exactly if is necessary a prescription to buy it in Romanian pharmacy.
Sorry if i ask it to u but i think that u have better info than me on that.
THX


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Jan

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posted March 20, 2001 09:27 AM

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Romania Naposim. Yes, you need a prescription, unless you know some people directly in factory, which is producing it. I know them.
It is the best former Dianabol I have ever seen, especially from the time, when in Germany started produce fake pink Thailand Anabol.
Price is (if you are on the top) aprox. USD 12-13 for 100 pills of 5 mg Naposim.
Jan


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2legit2quit

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posted March 20, 2001 09:30 AM

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Thats very interesting, but it did not provide much information on how you have come to this conclusion. What scientific facts are you basing this on? I am very interested in this because I am coming up on my first test cycle. However, this is a popular topic around here, and it seems like no one can ever agree on it. We all know sust. is self tapering, and we all know about the half life of test, so why is it that there is still so much debate about how it acts in the body? Perhaps the answer to my question is to get off my lazy ass and go and do my own research on the subject!

BTW, have you seen the "roid-calculator"? If not, check it out: www.come.to/roidcalc
Let me know what you think of it.


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Jan

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posted March 20, 2001 09:55 AM

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I have not seen any scientific facts about this matter, because they are not exist - why they should ? Just because BB ? No, nobody would finance this research.
I just use facts, which you can find on the paper you receive packed with Sustanon from Organon. And also from my personal long term experiences from my own using AS.
I know the calculator you mentioned, but it does not seem right from my point of view. It press you use more AS than could be sufficient. From my view.
For example for Enantat I think that is sufficient to take 2-4 x 250 mg every second Monday or every 10 days.
Jan


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Spunky

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posted March 20, 2001 10:20 AM

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It looks ok, I just don't see why you taper the sustenon off at the end.. its self-tapering..


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The_Iron_Game

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Would you like some constructive critisicm ?

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calvesodeath

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posted March 20, 2001 11:28 AM

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Very interesting but I am also questioning the taper at the end?


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2legit2quit

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posted March 20, 2001 11:34 AM

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Jan, don't take this the wrong way, but I disagree. There most definitely is a medical use for this stuff. AS was originally intended to stimulate growth in children whose growth was stunted for various reasons. Today, many AIDS and HIV positive people are using these drugs to combat the "wasting" associated with the disease. I think the research is out there. I only wish I had the time to find it and read it.


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Jan

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posted March 21, 2001 01:59 AM

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For the IRON:

Ok, send me some constructive critisicm.

Jan


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posted March 21, 2001 02:06 AM

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For 2Legit2:

Of course, there are some researches, but probably not research like what body will do when you take +500 mg / week for several weeks.
Jan

BTW: I have just prepared another nice document about MAKING CYCLES with lots of examples and descriptions


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posted March 21, 2001 02:25 AM

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Jan.......If u can post your new document i'm very intrested.
Thx


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Jan

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posted March 21, 2001 02:30 AM

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Yes, I have just finished it and you can find it at:
http://www.ifbb.cz/cycles_en.htm

Let me kno how you like it.

Take care

Jan


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body72

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posted March 21, 2001 03:08 AM

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Good article jan i'm in line with you, not huge doses but the righ product at the right moment.
In your article i didn't find your e-mail is possible to have it.
Bye


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Jan

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posted March 21, 2001 04:07 AM

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Ok, [email protected]

Jan


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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 21, 2001 04:16 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by Jan:
For the IRON:
Ok, send me some constructive critisicm.

"This stuff is a composite of four different synthetic testosterones

Sustanon is pure testosterone, its not a blend of 4 different synthetic ones, merely it contains 4 different esters. It is these esters that allow the test to be transported at different time release patterns. The weight of these esters actually replaces some of the testosterone and so in 250mgs of enanthate for example there is 180mgs of raw test. There is slightly less raw test in sustanon due to the esters being released over a longer period of time.

this characteristic of sustanon will saturate multiple receptor sites.

Please explain to me what you mean by mutiple receptor sites.

Causes spectacular gains in muscle size and strength along with commensurate side effects.

Nothing that any other 'test' wont do. Although it takes a longer time for the build up of synthetic test in the system once it builds up sustanon is just as likely to cause gyno and water retention as any other form of ester providing they are shot frequently enough and in accordance to their so called half lives. Remember if you are very sensitive to estrogen then simply adding arimidex, nolva or proviron should prevent problems.

This drug supposedly last long in the blood, so it`s not necessary to take large doses. Sustanon is an injectable steroid.

Just because it lasts in the blood long it does not mean that lower amounts are needed. It may well last long but shooting lower doses will simply mean less test in the blood and poorer results. Remember the difference in sides between 500mgs of test and 1000mgs of test is negligible.

As I said friend it is only constructive critisicm

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Jan

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posted March 21, 2001 04:31 AM

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Ops, lots of things.
I agree with your comments, but on the other side I wish there were more documents like this one and more people writing own experiences and advices. For free, of course.

It looks my server is down now, I have to call my provider whats up. If you can not get there, try it little bit later, it should be ok.

Jan


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