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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 19, 2001 12:46 PM

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I have up to now mostly used a 23G 1 inch pin and have been shooting in the quad. I have more recently started shooting into the glute and am still using a 1 inch. I am going all the way in and spread the fat on glute first to make sure it goes through the skin without excess fat preventing the pin from going in all the way. How do I know if I am going deep enough into the muscle or if I am too shallow. Please do not reply with use a 1.5 inch

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RJNCMEDIC

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posted March 19, 2001 12:58 PM

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well what do you want us to say then? if you are worried about going deep enough in the glute, use a 1.5" a 1" is fine for the quads... even a 1" should be fine for the glutes too as long as like you said, "spread the fat" and make the skin tight... I personally use a 1.5 for both the glute, quad, delt, etc. hope I helped..

RJ


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The Latin Lover

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posted March 19, 2001 12:59 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by The_Iron_Game:
I have up to now mostly used a 23G 1 inch pin and have been shooting in the quad. I have more recently started shooting into the glute and am still using a 1 inch. I am going all the way in and spread the fat on glute first to make sure it goes through the skin without excess fat preventing the pin from going in all the way. How do I know if I am going deep enough into the muscle or if I am too shallow. Please do not reply with use a 1.5 inch

Thanks





Hey iron Game, unless you're 20% fat, forget
about not injecting in the muscle.
I use a 23 Gauge 1" pin, and it easily reaches the
muscle.....

Godspeed

I'm 9% BTW...


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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 19, 2001 01:00 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by RJNCMEDIC:
well what do you want us to say then
RJ

Thanks

and what I wanted you ('us') to say is if there is anyway of knowing you have gone deep enough.

Peace


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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 19, 2001 01:01 PM

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Thanks Fonz


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Jonrocks

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posted March 19, 2001 01:13 PM

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I have always been told that you will know when you inject into the fat, and don't make it into the muscle. You will feel the diffrence. I don't know how true this is but this is what I have followed. I use the 1.5 in my glutes, and used to use 23g 1" in the quads, but have been using 25g 5/8" recently and have had no problems.


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RJNCMEDIC

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posted March 19, 2001 01:22 PM

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I actually have been using a 25ga 5/8" when I inject the test... I inject into smaller muscles that way, and it works... a lot less painful too, especially the way the test hurts... but for the Deca, I still use a 1/5" pin


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Julez

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posted March 19, 2001 01:40 PM

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Hmmm, if I had to hazard a guess I would say it would hurt slightly more at anything above 1ml - just my experience with sub-cat. injections such as Heparin.

You might get some blistering with large amounts if you hit the fat, this happens with sub-derm.injections and very noticably with sub-derm. infusions, saying that it may have something to do with the caustic nature of the infusions I have seen.

I know guys that use 1" with no problems, my preference would be for the larger 1.5"....

Sorry could not be of much help.

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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 19, 2001 01:48 PM

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Thanks everyone


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FatRat

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posted March 19, 2001 01:52 PM

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Would I be right to assume that if you injected in fat there would be a very obvious "ball" under the skin which would be easier to feel than if it was in the muscle. I would also assume that it would take much longer to dissipate due to less blood flow.

btw, been using 1 1/4" with no probs.


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JohnnyO

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posted March 19, 2001 01:56 PM

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I'm definately NOT the expert on this .. but ..

I'm using 1" in the glutes and what I've been doing is just pressing hard so the plunger makes a little indentation in the butt, instead of stopping as soon as the needle is in all way.

I also don't carry a lot of fat down there anyway.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 19, 2001 01:56 PM

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lol before anyone accusses me of being a moron I wish to clarify something. I know I am going into the muscle when injecting. What I am worried about is that I am not going deep enough and much of the oil will leak out of the muscle.


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The Latin Lover

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posted March 19, 2001 02:00 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by The_Iron_Game:
lol before anyone accusses me of being a moron I wish to clarify something. I know I am going into the muscle when injecting. What I am worried about is that I am not going deep enough and much of the oil will leak out of the muscle.


LOL. You'll never be a moron in my book......

Godspeed


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Big_Daddy_Budda

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posted March 19, 2001 02:07 PM

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Iron_Game, as a student nurse I know the best techniques for injecting. 1 inch is fine, the usual method with a 1 and half incher is to withdraw the syringe about a half inch anyway before injecting, in case it snaps. If you are going all the way (don't recommend) and getting the full 1 inch in that is fine. Also, if possible, grip the area of skin you are about to inject and twist it (will take time to perfect), then inject. Once the needle is out, let go of the area. This closes the canal and prevents any loss of the drug.

L8r bro


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RJNCMEDIC

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posted March 19, 2001 03:41 PM

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I don't know about "twisting" the skin... that would be more of a subcutaneous injection... you need to press down on the skin, and pull it tight between your thumb and forefinger... that will make sure you get deep into the muscle... as long as you are at least 1" beneath the skin surface, there is minimal chance for the gear to leak out...

RJ
BTW, I am a Flight RN, and I have given a gazillion injections


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Mass Monster

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posted March 19, 2001 03:49 PM

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Yea I don't know about that whole twisting thing either, sounds a little to complicated for one person to do! But 1" pin should go plenty into the muscle, but 1.5" are always good!

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