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jrock75

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posted March 17, 2001 10:59 PM

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I am about to start my next cycle. Here is what I am looking at. Please pick this thing apart and help me make it better.
Wk****Sust*****Deca*****Winny*****Eq
1*****750******400*******************
2*****750******400*******************
3*****500******300*******************
4*****500******300*****50mg/EOD**400*
5*****500******200*****50mg/EOD**400*
6*****500******200*****50mg/EOD**300*
7*****500******200*****50mg/EOD**300*
8*****375**************50mg/EOD**200*
9*****375**************50mg/EOD**200*
10****250**************50mg/EOD**200*

I would like to wait on the winny and EQ until week 6 but I am worried about progesterone gyno with the deca. I could get some more winny and do it the entire time, but I think that this would be a little long. I am also going to do nolva after week 3 and clomid at the end. I will also do clen and ECA for several weeks starting week 8. Also would T3 be useful at the end to lean up or throughout for protein synthesis. Other things I have access to are Cyp, D-Bol, Prop.

JRock


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jrock75

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posted March 18, 2001 09:52 PM

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Come on guys. Give me some help.


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MUSTANG_18

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posted March 18, 2001 10:00 PM

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I THINK THE CYCLE LOOKS PRETTY GOOD. I WOULD NOT WORRY TO MUCH ABOUT PROGESTERONE GYNO AT THAT DOSE OF DECA, YOU SHOULD BE FINE. I WOULD DO THE WINNY AT 25MG/ED INSTEAD OF 50MG/EOD TO KEEP A CONSTANT FLOW IN YOUR SYSTEM. CYTOMEL AT 25MCG A DAY WOULD HELP WITH PROTEIN SYNTHASIS SO IF YOU HAVE SOME YOU COULD USE THAT AS WELL. CYCLE LOOKS PRETTY SOLID, GOOD LUCK AND KEEP US UPDATED ON YOUR PROGRESS

M18

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jrock75

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posted March 18, 2001 10:53 PM

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Mustang

Thanks for the encouragement. I am going to add in some T3 to keep the fat off. Will keep you posted.

JRock


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lawnsaver

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posted March 18, 2001 11:17 PM

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I would switch the deca and eq, to utilize the winny/deca synergy.

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Jonrocks

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posted March 18, 2001 11:47 PM

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You have *2* very good cycles there... you have a good mass cycle, and then you have a good cycle to use while you are cutting. I would break them up into 2 differnt cycles. Deca and EQ use similar recptors and you wouldn't have as stong effect from the EQ that you could/should have if you didn't precced it with the deca. Deca/Sust good for mass (if you can add some dbol), EQ/Whinny add some clen and T3, good cutting.


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jrock75

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I would like to do them separate, but I also want to be cut for the summer. How long would I have to wait after my mass cycle to start my cutting one? If I can do them pretty close, then I might split them up.

JRock


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lawnsaver

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posted March 19, 2001 12:32 AM

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All gear uses the same receptors. Well not all. Deca and eq are very different, but give similar results.

Why does everyone see black and white?? My man is looking for quality muscle. He isnt bulking or cutting. Like I said switch the eq and deca to get the synergy. This is a strong cycle and with a solid diet you will do well.

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jrock75

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You are right I am looking for quality muscle gains. Lawn you talk about the Deca/Winny synergy. What is this. I always heard that deca and sust were great together especially when you can throw in some d-bol. I will probably take your advice and switch the deca and eq. Would it be okay if I just did the EQ the whole time? I have enough to do so.

JRock


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lawnsaver

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posted March 19, 2001 01:06 PM

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This is what happens. Deca converts to progestone and test to estrogen. If you use the 2 together and start to have gyno symptoms, which one is giving it to you. You wont know. If you stack the deca with winny, the winny will bing to the progestone site and stop the deca induced gyno. If you have eq and test and have gyno you can take nolva or proviron and stop the gyno because you know that estrogen is producing it.

To answer about eq all the way through, YES. I love eq for long periods of time.

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jrock75

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posted March 19, 2001 03:42 PM

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After the advice here is what she will be
Wk****Sust*****Deca*****Winny*****Eq
1*****750************************300*
2*****750************************300*
3*****500************************300*
4*****500******400*****25mg/day**300*
5*****500******400*****25mg/day**200*
6*****500******300*****25mg/day**200*
7*****500******300*****25mg/day**200*
8*****375******200*****25mg/day**200*
9*****375******200*****25mg/day******
10****250******200*****25mg/day******
I will do cytomel the whole time and nolva after the third week. I am pretty prone to gyno. Also at the end, I will do clen and clomid. Mustang and lawn thanks for all the help.

JRock


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lawnsaver

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posted March 19, 2001 03:50 PM

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Dont taper your doses if you dont have to. Stick to one dose all the way through. The rest looks good.

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ripped103

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posted March 19, 2001 04:03 PM

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