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mrflaco

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posted March 17, 2001 08:59 AM

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Hey bros, my buddy is preparing for a winny primo cycle. It is his first and he does not want to use test or d-bol yet he is aiming for 10-15lbs of lean muscle. He is considering running primo@400mg for 8wks and 50mg ed if winny for the last 6 weeks. I told him that he would be happy(if diet is clean and full of protein), with 300mg primo and 25mg ed of winny and save the extra money for food and protein. What do you guys think? Would it be worth the money to run the primo at 400mg instead of 300, and 50mg ed of winny instead of 25? He's 5'8 190lbs, been training for 2yrs. I apreciate your advice as always please feel free to make some suggestions. Thanks!


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Beezers

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posted March 17, 2001 10:15 AM

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I would definately opt for option 1. 400 primo and 50 winny. The second doses are too low. The first choice should be a nice cycle provided he eats and trains correctly. I thing at the doses of the second choice he would be left dissapointed. Primo is very, very mild so even 400mg is not going exhibit a very powerfull effect.


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yiyangzhi

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posted March 17, 2001 11:01 AM

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This a question to Beezers or any experienced bros, since the question of primo/winny cycle is brought up here. Will taking Dbol for the first 4 weeks at 25mgED then winny in the next 5 weeks be a gd idea? Coming to primo being mild, would adding anavar 25mgED help to intensify the effect or just a overlap, since anavar and primo target the A/R?


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Beezers

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posted March 17, 2001 11:09 AM

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That would be 9 weeks on 17aa drugs. It can be done and probably with proper precautions relatively safely but in my eyes it would be a risk.


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yiyangzhi

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posted March 17, 2001 11:27 AM

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Agree with Beezers. Definetely taking milk thistle to lower liver values. I thought a primo/winny cycle will not produce noticeable gains in asmuch as if dbol replaced winny for the first 4 weeks.


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SmackDown

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posted March 17, 2001 11:52 AM

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im running a similar primo winny cycle also using a eca. What do you guys think?

1.400mgs primobolan
2.400mgs primobolan
3.400mgs primobolan
4.400mgs primobolan
5.400mgs primobolan
6.400mgs primobolan 50mgs winny eod
7.400mgs primobolan 50mgs winny eod
8.400mgs primobolan 50mgs winny eod
9.400mgs primobolan 50mgs winny eod
10.400mgs primobolan 50mgs winny eod
11. 50mgs winny eod
12. 50mgs winny eod
13. 50mgs winny eod


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mrflaco

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posted March 17, 2001 12:35 PM

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Hey Beezers I'll definitely pass this advice on I do not want my bro to be dissapointed with his results.

Would it really damage your liver running d-bol for the first 4 and winny for the last 6 assuming you took all the precautions such as milk thistle etc? If you injected the winny would that be safer for your liver?


Would you throw test in there somwhere instead? If so how much for a first cycle? Sorry for all the questions but I want my bro to get what he wants out of his first run. Thanks!

[This message has been edited by mrflaco (edited March 17, 2001).]


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PHREEMINDED

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posted March 17, 2001 01:37 PM

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How much cardio should one do w/ the primo and winny cycle?

Just got wizard today, checked it out for like 5 min. and from what I saw, I recommend it to you bros!!! Im about to get on it and try to answer my own question!

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mrflaco

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posted March 18, 2001 12:13 AM

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If you inject the winny is it still as harsh on the liver as drinking? If it isn't then I assume that using d-bol in the beggining of a cycle and injecting winny at the end would not kill your liver. Is this way of thinking correct?


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posted March 18, 2001 12:18 AM

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why not throw some test in for eight weeks with the primo and then start the winny in week 5. 500MG SOS/WEEK will make him much happier with his gains.

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yiyangzhi

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posted March 18, 2001 06:35 AM

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Jback, throwing in sos would also mean throwing in proviron/nolva or arimidex. mrflaco's fren may not want to spend too much on this cycle, and he stressed that his buddy does not want to use test or d-bol.

I agree that throwing sos would be great. I remembered latona & kodiak99 tellin me that sos is an overrated test. I remembered a post few months back that criticized the short-acting esters in sos which are ineffective in a once/twice weekly injections. They seem to prefer the long-acting test cyp.

D-bol sound like a good choice for a first cycle. Primo targets the A/R, while d-bol and winstrol acts thru non A/R receptors. My next cycle of primo & winny w proviron is coming up soon, and I thought of adding d-bols.


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mrflaco

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posted March 19, 2001 02:13 AM

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I talked my buddy into throwing in some sos, but he decided to drop the primo, and just go with sos & winny. I'll probalbly spot him some flow so that he can throw in some eq also. Can somebody post a suggested cycle for a first timer using sos, winny and eq (he'll use clomid and have the nolva on hand of course)? I'd apreciate it, thanks!!!


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