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Mask

Amateur Bodybuilder

posted March 17, 2001 04:06 AM

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I've got a question here for the veterans. On my first cycle, I'm thinking about taking Sustanon 250 1cc per week for 8 weeks. I really don't want any side effects and minimal bloating.
Do I need to take Nolvadex even at this small amount?
Do I need to taper it off? 1 cc is about 250mg am I correct? Since Sustanon contains short and long lasting test, shouldn't this be self tapering?
When do I start taking Clomid? I'm thinking, start taking it after my last shot.

I know it would be nice to shoot it twice a week, but I really don't want to deal with estrogens and side effects..... especially the bloating.


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WCP

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posted March 17, 2001 04:54 AM

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I really dont think at 2 cc's a week you will be dealing with too many side effects. You must take into consideration sust's half life toward your goals.
Sust, because of the esters involved, will taper itself.

Email me on the clomid therapy, Im going to bed now.

WCP

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Mask

Amateur Bodybuilder

posted March 17, 2001 05:30 AM

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Thanks for the reply, I used the half-life calculator from this site: http://www.mesomorphosis.com/resources/anabolic-steroid-calculator.htm

Not sure how accurate this is, I think it's fucked up. If 1cc is 250mg, then why does it only last for 5 days according to this calculator? It barely last for 3 days... I thought Sustanon is one of those things that last for weeks?
Anyways, I'll probably end up shooting every 5 days for 7 weeks (10 shots in 7 weeks cycle).
any other comment/advice?


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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 17, 2001 05:48 AM

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It says 5 weeks not 5 days

[This message has been edited by The_Iron_Game (edited March 17, 2001).]


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Mask

Amateur Bodybuilder

posted March 17, 2001 01:36 PM

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How about adding 25mcg of Cytomel on this everyday, would that help?
so it's 1 cc of Sustanon 250 once a week for 8 weeks. 25mcg cytomel everyday. 50mg Clomid everyday starting from my last shot and then 2 more weeks.

I'm wondering how much kcal I should add since I'm gonna take the Cytomel?


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Seifer

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posted March 17, 2001 03:10 PM

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take 500mg week, im doing this for my first cycle and have noticed results really quick, it just might be my diet though, but good stuff


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mike001

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posted March 17, 2001 03:15 PM

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what you really need to do! go up sustanon500mg/week and throw in some Equipoise 300mg/week
this will give you what you want. peace
-Mike001-

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Mask

Amateur Bodybuilder

posted March 17, 2001 05:33 PM

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At 500mg (2 shots), doesn't this mean I have to take anti-estrogen with this? I'm not just trying to get hyooooge, but to burn the excess fat. At 5'6" 200 lbs right now, it'll look PRETTY OBVIOUS if I add 20 lbs in less than a month.


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Glootz

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posted March 19, 2001 12:13 PM

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I too am considering bumping Sust250 once a week to once every 5 days@ 8 weeks. Help?


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Badatta2d

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posted March 19, 2001 12:25 PM

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I will post an unpopular opinion. But It was my actual expirience. 1 cc/week is perfect for a 1st timer. Thats what I did 1CC of sustanon for 9 weeks (I bought an extra in case I broke one, I didn't, so I went another week) Have clomid ready for end of cycle and nolvadex on hand in case needed.
I gained 30 lbs of which I kept 22 now 5 months later. No sides to speak of slight acne on shoulders and back. 1 clomid per day 1 week after last shot, then 2 clomid a day for the 2 following weeks.
Get a good diet plan together I shot for 4500-5000 calories. Don't fall for the eat everything you see trap. Get good quality protien and do not over do the fat intake. Get a good acne wash use it on face back and shoulders, use a back scrubber. Perhaps even use Nizoral shampoo to save the hair and saw palmetto. Workout hard and grow.


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calvesodeath

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posted March 19, 2001 12:38 PM

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sust flu...do the effects lessen as the weeks go on? I had a mild case after 250 for my first week but am hoping that the effects will lessen with each subsequent dose. Advice?


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HelmsmaN

Pro Bodybuilder

posted March 19, 2001 01:01 PM

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Calves...San Diego huh? Where do you train?

About the susflu...When I had it, it was like an allergic reaction. It went away after about a week.


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calvesodeath

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posted March 19, 2001 01:33 PM

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HelmsmaN...I train at LA Fitness (Vista or Encinitas)...U? Ironically, I am also into sailing though no longer race seriously.


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thefacelessballer

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posted March 19, 2001 02:19 PM

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take sust @ 500mg week.. just took my last shot on friday and i was up 37lbs...

250mg will just replace you natural test with synthetic test.. 500 is where its at


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Mass Monster

Elite Bodybuilder

posted March 19, 2001 02:33 PM

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I did 250 of sus for my first cycle and had great gains but I really wish I upped it to 500mg a week!

Mass Monster


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Mask

Amateur Bodybuilder

posted March 19, 2001 03:58 PM

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At 500mg per day of Sustanon, do I need to take Nolvadex?


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calvesodeath

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posted March 19, 2001 05:47 PM

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Bump


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Eramthgin

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posted March 19, 2001 06:14 PM

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Two hits of sus a week is OK. Some people take much much more.


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Blonski

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posted March 19, 2001 06:23 PM

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Mask, you say your are considering your first cycle of SUST, but later you say you want to burn fat? TEST = BURN FAT? I don't think so.

I too am planning my first cycle, but unlike you weigh only 160lb. I want to gain mass, but not bloat as I work as a service engineer and have alot of close contact with my customers - who would notice.

If you go the SUST route, you will gain weight, even if it is a little. However, you need to look at adding something to combat the bloating etc.

Here's the cycle I plan:

WEEK-----SUST250-------WINNY
---------250mg/wk-----50mg/EOD
1---------250-----------------
2---------250-----------------
3---------250-----------------
4---------250------------200--
5---------250------------200--
6---------250------------200--
7------------------------200--
8------------------------200--

Now, it is not absolutely necessary to be concerned with gyno and test levels given the above cycle. 250mg/wk for 6 weeks is about the max you can go without clomid and you would very rarely see gyno on this unless you are way susceptible.

If you wanted to go clomid, start at 100mg/ED for 1 week starting after your last SUST injection, then 50mg/ED for 1 week and then 50mg/EOD for 1 week. Others wise, some tribulus testeris would probably be ample. The self-tapering nature of the SUST does most of this work for you though.

Anyone, feel free to disagree and comment.

Thanks.

Good luck and Research, Research, Research.


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calvesodeath

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posted March 19, 2001 07:17 PM

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From my research Blonski is on the mark!


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Blonski

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posted March 19, 2001 09:35 PM

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Dankyou...the power of RESEARCH!


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