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 MORAL DEBATE!
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 182 |
BROS IM HAVIN A MORAL DEBATE HERE, MY 17 YEAR OLD BROTHER WANTS TO JUICE WITH ME, IM 21, THE THING IS THAT HES ALREADY DONE DBOL. WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK, IS HE TOO YOUNG, SHOULD I JUICE WITH HIM OR WHAT GUYS, I FEEL HORRIBLE THINKIN ABOUT IT, BUT AT TEH SAME TIME IT WOULD BE KINDA COOL, SHIT GIMME SOME GOOD FEEDBACK FELLAS...     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 182 |
i should probably add that he wants me to get him juice. | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 13 |
I started juicin' when I was 15. Just a little d-bol, test, and deca. I guess if he really wants to, let him. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 29 |
I am def. no expert, but if he were to juice w\ you I would have him get some X-Rays done to make sure his growth plates were all the way closed... I grew much past the age of 18... and you wouldnt want to stunt his growth. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 261 |
If he looks up to you, and you truly believe he will listen to you. Then make sure he does not do it for another 3 yrs at least. He is WAY TO YOUNG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Bootyshaker | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 100 |
Diesel - I think he is too young, his nat. test levels are so high now that if he is training and eating right he should grow. We all know if done properly AS is safe and effective, I just think he is too young. I didn't do my frist cycle until 26 and I was already training hard 5 years. Good luck | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 153 |
Too young. If you give a shit about him you will see to it that he holds off. He's got plenty of natural testosterone at that age and can make quick gains without juice, and if he does a moderate cycle his growth could be stunted permanantely. Tell him to work on his diet- that will help more at his age. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 213 |
i think hes too young. if it were me i would be a good big brother and tell him that. if he is stubborn and he says he is going to do it anyways you should at least guide him in the ways of proper cycling. i wouldnt get it for him though. and keep him away from the test... ------------------ | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 8 |
He is way to young. He needs to build a good foundation before he starts. Natural foundation Dont leave natural until your body wont grow anymore. He should be 23 at least. his body is producing so much test right now all he has to do is eat and train hard he will have amazing gains. You to for that matter. Just how i feel Stien ------------------ | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 2583 |
17 yrs old and you fee the need even to ask this question  | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 309 |
To follow behind everyone else...he's way too young!! Use your influence to persuade him otherwise. Think about his health. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 11 |
too young bro. sorry | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 417 |
He is to young!! If you want to a good big brother don't even let him know what your doing,and its my opinion 21 is a little young. Just my opinion so don't fry me. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 212 |
Too young if you want to help him out teach him how to train and eat. He will have plenty of time to juice later on if it is for him. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 39 |
I took D-bol as an uneducated 18 yr old and if I could do it all over again, I definitely would not do it ! I waited until I was 24 to go near anything again, and even at that, it was Primobolan Depot which is considered to be one of the most mild substances out there. Just encourage him to train hard and consistent and most importantly, eat right and get enough rest ! Life isn't a race to the finish, enjoy it day by day and wait til the time is right... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 269 |
WAAAAAY TO YOUNG ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 19 |
Tell your youg bro that Mother Nature is still working on him. If she thinks he is fucking with her program, she might quit. Let him wait and work for just a few more years. Let him get to be all the man Mother meant him to be, and then he can enhance it if he wants. BB | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 150 |
If he's dead set on doing it he's gonna do it whether you approve or not! All you can do is explain to him the problems that can occur. Even with doing that he's probably going to still want to. At that point it's up to you whether or not to help him. Just my .02 cents. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 13 |
i was told back when i was 13 that you should not start a rigorous regime untill after full puberty is reached let alone use suppliments. but then thats the british for you personally if i were you id let him train with just the right diet. i did ok for a few years, when he gets to 16 or so he can make up his own mind. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 150 |
quote: Did you even read the post? He's already 17! Get off the board you dumbass hoe!!!! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 56 |
He is too young. Explain to him that with training hard and eating, taking whey protien, and creatine he should try to reach his genetic potential first, than start thinkin about juice at maybe 21-22. I started taking d-bol at 18(i'm 34)and i was already 5-11 210 and benchin 350. I would love to know what i could have ended up at naturally,before i hit the juice.  | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 29 |
As I stated earlier in this post, you have to watch out about the age thing and stunting his natural growth potential. You should do anything and everything in your power to convince him to stay away for right now. Tell him that he can work out with you, get him on a strict diet, and at his age, he will probably have comparable gains with you. If, however, he is dead set on doing it... you might as well be the one to supply it so you know he gets good, and clean gear. | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2626 |
Explain to him in a very logical manner that he really doesn't need juice to get the same gains that a 21 or 22 year old would get on juice. This isn't bullshit, it's a fact. I'm not sure how many mg of natural test a 17 yr old produces. Find out and show him the numbers. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 105 |
definitely TOO YOUNG bro, give him some CREATINE and GLUTAMINE and let him go to town!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 52 |
He is too young, his bones are still growing, and that will come to a halt on AS. He shouldn't juice until he has stopped growing which could be 21,22,23. How tall his he and how old were you when you stopped gaining height? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 254 |
Like everyone else is saying.....TOO YOUNG!!! his natural test levels should be high enough as it is for good growth now anyways!!! ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 32 |
Teach him proper nutrition and correct ways to train instead of how to do juice at such a young age. I feel this will help him in the long run. Pass on good stuff to your brother, not something that can be potentially dangerous. TOO YOUNG! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 182 |
thanks for all the feedback fellas, it looks like im gonna try and keep him away from the stuff, i just dont know if he is gonna go ahead and do it anyway ya know, get it from some dickhead friend of his and end up hurtin himself.. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 227 |
I wish I would have started a little later, I'm 6'0", but another inch or two would have been wonderful. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 173 |
Too young. Don't do it. He's still got more room to grow naturally. Once he's finished growing naturally, then give him a little more boost with the other stuff. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 79 |
I agree too young . if he works out hard his day will come | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 27 |
If he want's confirmation just show him the answer posts from your question and he will see lots of quality information from like minded people. CM | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 591 |
Two young, how knows. When I was in six grade, I barly had hair on my balls----And their where a couple of kids that had hair on their stomach. That was at 12 years old. If he wants to do it then so be it---he could be doing worse shit then AS---Keep an eye on him and if he wants to do it them help him with it and give him shit like anavar and primobolan----he will be fine----And come senior year he will rule the school--- | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 992 |
Too young. At that age he doesn't have the maturity or self control to use AS in the first place. And don't say he's mature for his age or I'll puke. How long has he been training. At 17 it couldn't be for very long. He could easily gain 20lbs at his age if he just trained and eats right. AS should be used when you exhausted all of your other option. A plateu breaker of some sort. Not to start off the bat with... ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 182 |
Actually he started liftin in the 7th grade. he started lookin real good, he is actually the reason that i started workin out.So in reality he started lifting before i did. like i said he's already done dbol. i just feel like a hipocrate telling him no as he watches me stick my ass with a needle..but i dont think he is gonna get much more height if any. he started workin out young and shit ya know. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 220 |
Wait at least until he is 20 years of age.You wouldn't want to stunt the young lads growth!! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 52 |
ITS ALREADY TOO LATE NOW, HE'S GOING TO SEE YOU MAKING BIG GAINS, AND WANT TO DO THE SAME. lET HIM GO AHEAD AND DO A CYCLE OF PRIMOBOLAN (250MG/WEEK) THIS SHOULDNT DO MUCH HARM + PRIMO HAS BEEN SHOWN YOU ENCOURAGE BONE GROWTH. AT HIS AGE, WE ALL DIDNT HAVE MUCH PATIENTS FOR ANYTHING. I THINK AT THIS POINT IT WOULD BE SAFER TO LET HIM DO SOME PRIMO WITH YOU. + IF YOU DONT GET IT FOR HIM HE'LL JUST END UP GETTING SOME UNSTERILIZED CANOLA OIL. EITHER THAT OR GET HIM SOME VITAMINS AND TELL HIM THAT ITS SOME "REALLY GOOD SHIT!!" LAST BUT "DEFINANTLY NOT LEAST" TEACH HIM HOW TO EAT CORRECTLY!! TRAINING IS UP TO HOW MUCH HE WANTS IT. I CAN GUARANTEE YOU IF HE EATS RIGHT, TRAINS HARD (COMPOUND MOVEMENTS), & RESTS HE WILL GAIN 8-12LBS IN 3 MONTHS. SET HIM UP A BOARD NAME, AND TELL HIM TO TALK TO THE EXPERIENCED. (TRY THE VITAMINS FIRST)  | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 191 |
Unless his goal is to be a HUGE MIDGET, tell him to be patient for a couple more years. My bro is 16 and there is no way I'd let him near roids right now! Later. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 136 |
I say teach him good technique, work habits, consistency, etc. and forget about juice now. He shouldn't even be considering juice at his age, he has his whole life to try it. What's the hurry? Better to take it when he's older and can make more use of it. Now, he should definitely exhaust his natural potential first. As his older brother, you need to steer and guide him right. Do the right thing, bro. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 490 |
hey guys did you even read his post? he said he 's allready done d-bol. his growth is fucked. hey wantobedeisel, how much d-bol and for how long, just curious. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 182 |
he took about 150 pills i believe, and not only that, he started workin out with he was in the 7th grade, arent his growth plates already fucked?.. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1109 |
hell no not too young.....give him primo anavar test.......bro i took roids before i was 17......at the age of 15.... ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 992 |
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