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 Am I the last one who wont use Synthol?
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Guru     
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I got nothing against you fellas pumpin that oil in your body. And honestly it never appealed to me so I never researched it in depth. I don't see the appeal. Its fake, its soft at least soft looking and it isnt muscle.. I always thought of body building as muscle building/sculpting. Explain to me where all that oil goes? Does anyone know the long term affects of putting straight oil into your muscle? Once again don't get defensive on me - help me see your way of thinking, b/c I just can't see the appeal right now. ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board)     | ||
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you are not the only one bro-I have been considering pgf2 but never synthol. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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i will never use synthol, but if anybody else wants to, go right ahead. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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I'm with you on this one. Also it will never appeal to me!!! To me bodybuilding is an art, and i'm sculping my body. And for me I don't see how injecting oil in my muscle will help my goal. Also no offense to those who take it. I have certain goals for myself, and Synthol is not included in them. Late! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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It's an indivudal decision, I did it because I didn't feel I had the genetic ability to build 22 inch arms, but I have the now.
quote: It does not appear "Soft." If it appeared "Soft" Wheeler, Ronnie, and many others would have the super level of cuts that they do. This is a misguided thought by those who never spent the time to learn how to inject the substance properly. Once injected deep enough (but not too deep), it will dramatically improve your appearance over time. If you load up all at once, yeah it'll look bad. if you don't inject right, it will look bad. I have yet to have some girl come up to me however and ask me if I put synthol in my arms after she spent a few minutes squeezing them. See my piont? Learn how to use it properly, and it can help you overcome genetic flaws that you could not otherwise correct and had no control over.
quote: If others don't know, and you do it properly, who are you hurting? I'm glad you wrote this appropiately, and not iggnorantly as it has been. Natural's feel about Juicers like some Juicers feel about Synthol users. Very few object because of purely moral issue, most object because they either don't have the balls to stick a needle into small muscle, or don't learn how to niject properly, so it looks bad, but instead of admiting it may be their flaw, pronouce that synthol is the bain of bodybuilding under the 'geiss of moral or ethical issues. Another example might be this. I'm german, purely german, nothing but of a German family. I do NOT tan! I turn pink and that's it! So, I use sunless tanners. Is that cheating because they aren't real? No, it's beating a genetic flaw. I'm testing several formula's GetPandP is working on as we speak, and am slowly becoming very pleased with the results. Most people shoot down the sunless tanning route because they have had bad experiences from a lack of knowledge, not because it's fake or not real. Knowledge is power, and once you have the knowledge of proper use, you can reap the benefits, but untill then, don't let yourself be swept away by those who were too lazy to do it correctly. I don't think everyone should do it, but I do think that it's bad press is more because of insecurities than facts, much like the media and steriods. --Meanie-- | ||
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Moderator 
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For my own reasons I won't be (or at least I am not planning on) using it. | ||
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Novice
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hey slopain check out my summer cycle-your advice would be greatly appreciated. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice 
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Slopain I have to agree with you. I did try using an oil that is similar to synthol. The gains were great and my arms etc grew. But the I got two massive fucking abcesses in my Bi's, which luckily was treated using anti-biotics. All I can say is never again, I will just have to be happy with a "natural" 20 inchs. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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quote: Newbie's this is why you don't attempt to sterilize your own MCT oil, or use inferior products, or inject without proper knowledge. Been using for over 3 years - never an infection outside of when I used crap products. Use the good stuff and your fine. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
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I have to go along with Meanone on this topic. You have to know exactly what you are doing. My old roommate before I was married did well at the state level, but had flaws that hindered him nationally. He used this product correctly and had "outside guidence" as well. He did his homework on the subject and in 2 years he made the top 5 at the nationals. It was completely unknown to almost everyone, as well as the judges. That is how well it worked for him. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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Ask Milos if he would take it again. For those of you who don't know, Milos Sarcev had Synthol get into his lungs. Check out http://www.getbig.com/news/news03/0101ron.htm for some more info. I would take it for 2 reasons... FAKE and Dangerous.... My 2cents | ||
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Cool Novice
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Newbie? Just becasue you are new to a board means nothing about your experience. Meanone that is why is said Synthol like product and not Synthol.. It is just that once bitten, twice shy kinda attitude in my case, nothing against guys who are happy with their own experiences. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Purple, I wasn't refering to you when I said newbie, but check the board for how many "Can I use MCT oil" posts there are. Now that you mention it, it is quite easy to tell your a newbie, because you fail to understand what synthol is and what a synthol like product is. Synthol-Chris Clark's first name for PumpNPose, but was already registered as a drug. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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The fact remains that it is fake. Im sure you can get big ENOUGH with out it. Unless you are competing for MR O. Its just oil, not muscle. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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It's fake, that's been established, next please... So is going to a tanning bed, or using sunless tanners, and weight training in general for that matter. Being that you wouldn't normally look like that, it's somewhat fake. Thank you, next irrational arguement please...lol | ||
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quote: I think thats wrong MeanOne. It was called Eiseclene. And came from italy. Godspeed | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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I won't use it either, but I want to see a pic of meanone's 22inch guns just to see how real do they look | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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With all of the advanced supps. out here now, why not force the body part to grow? I personaly wont use any synthol like products to give the appearance of muscle gains. To all the bros that do and will, good luke and have at it. ------------------ | ||
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I will never touch the stuff, and I can't say that about too many AS. Synthol is the true cheating. When you don't have to train like an animal to grow our sport has been robbed of something. | ||
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It just ain't right! No floating oil globules in my muscle bellies unless they are dispursed and provide needed gear!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | ||
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Olympian 
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Synthol is an easy way out. So no thanks. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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On a more personal level is that all the blood and guts it takes me to make my muscles grow gives me a sense of accomplishment. Injecting Synthol to make my muscles "bigger" would make me feel like I cheated myself so-to-speak. However, if injecting the Synthol makes you feel better about yourself, then by all means keep injecting it. Godspeed | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Fonz, you're a very well educated person. Would you kindly tell us what your thoughts on what the use of Synthol & similar products will have in store for it's users in the future? Both long-term and short-term use. Also, I remember reading somewhere someone said it's 80% muscle, 17% water, 3% oil...I thought it was 100% oil? Doing this for spring break or something is cool, living on it I'm against. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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For the record, I'll not use it. | ||
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Freak
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That stuff is garbage in my book...... | ||
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Freak
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No, I will not use synthol if my arms lag, I will work on them harder, just like I will not get breast implants, I will do more chest work. ------------------ | ||
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Freak
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I'll never say never, but I don't plan on using it any time soon. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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I know 2 guys who have used it. One still does, and has been for about 3 years. One thing is that you have to keep using it because it dissipates over time, and i don't think it looks good. I will never use it. Peace to all that do. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Don't the gains stay for a few years? Or this that more BS? | ||
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Its not for me, I won't use it. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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I say everyone makes their own decisions about thier own bodies. I'm not planning on using it ever but I hold nothing against those who do | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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you guys are very uninformed... You are no better than those who have bad preconceptions of steroid use... WHy would you think synthol causes the muscle to be soft... It increases muscle defintion and hardness... It is under the muscle... Not between the muscle and the skin... It acts like a jack and jacks your muscles farther up against your skin... The gains do last from 3-5 years... Then ou can hit the synth again and again. What are the bros close to their genetic potential supposed to do? My arms havent grown any on my last cycle... they sit at a bit over 18" right now, so i opted for synthol to break the 20" mark... Without it, there would be no way for me to obtain 20" arms | ||
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Freak
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I hold nothing against users of pump n pose type products but I prefer to build my body from gym effort rather than from injecting an oil in them. ------------------ E2's Steroid Pictures Pictures of many different drugs. AJC' Steroid Profiles Profiles of many different steroids 2Thick's Injection Procedures Site Complete with Pictures and Diagrams! Finaplix by Mr H A complete guide to Fina | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Not me....I like hormones in my oil  | ||
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Novice
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i wont criticize synthol users because i get critiscized by "naturals" for using synthetic hormones. so in the same token if i do criticize synthol users i would be in the same position as those ignorant bastards who say steroids will kill you. go ahead if you feel good with synthol. | ||
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fonz, not a flame at all BUT everytime i see you post, your trying to prove someone wrong. just thought i'd add that.. once again not a flame at allBUT this is what i notice everyday. peace, -Mike001- ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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i dont think i will ever use it... but i know i wont criticize someone for using it or say it is the easy way out. people say the same thing about using steroids although theyre a bunch of idiots. when it comes down to it its your body and you can do whatever you to it... ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
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If you can get your hands on the gear, then why settle for fake muscles. Just my .02 | ||
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Cool Novice
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It is hard to say that using synthol is "cheating" or "fake" because that could be a very fuzzy line. For synthol to look right you would already have to have a great physique, which would come from years of hard work.... or else, some of you are right, and would look like fat-asses. By putting it into the base of the muscle it would enhance your already cut\tight muscle and def. make it look bigger. As for the "fake" argument, thats again is hard to distinguish, who said its not fake for us to put 50 lbs. on our body that wouldnt have gotten there from an everyday normal life. There is def. an issue that oil wont add any strength... which I want both strength and mass, but its a personall issue, and if someone wants to use synthol to get a better appearance, so be it. None of us would want or give any merrit to someone knocking us for AS. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Synthol is bull shit. We are body builders. We build our bodies from weight training, diet and a few supplements to help us grow REAL muscles. Synthol= implants in my mind. Synthol is just another nail in ths coffin of the sport of body building. In case i'm not clear here it should be banned!! | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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I will never use it personally, but I have nothing against the guys that choose to do it. Every man has their own goals and methods to achieve them. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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To each his own. As long as your not sticking it in your horn!!!Because if I hear about guys walking around with 22" horns and making my 18" horn look small!!!!! Watchout!!!! Bootyshaker | ||
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Novice
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Who was the guy who asked if he could inject synthol in his dick to give it more roundness a couple months ago? Does anyone else remember that shit? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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Shit yeah Ulter! Meanone, you say that using synthol it like tanning or weight training (fake)? A tan is a tan, a change in skin color. Its not like people rub on shoe polish to look darker. That would be fake. Weight training leads to a fake body because anyone wouldnt normaly have that amount of muscle, right? No, its still muscle, a normal body tissue, it has just grown. How is that "fake". Pumping shit in your body to expand it like a water ballon is fake, as is getting implants. In the case of synthol users muscle isnt muscle, its oil, therefore, ITS FAKE! No flame intended, but you believed my argument to be irrational, and i dissagree, but whatever makes you happy, do it cuz happiness is the most important thing. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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quote: Once again, your wrong Fonz. Eiseclene's effects lasted for only a few days, not nearly the lasting power of even the most inferior synthol type products. Eiseclene was not invented by Chris Clark (huh-duh), and was illegal to see in the US after 1990 if it could even be had. Therefore a new site enhancement product was need, give birth to Synthol. (Taking my bow) | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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I thought about useing PnP about 4 years ago when it first came out! I was all jacked up on a cycle, and just wanted to be King Kong! But, then I came down to earth, and the more I researched, the more I thought,na, not for me. For any gear-head (myself included) to say "It's fake!", is a hypocrite because the shit makes your muscles BIG just like hormones (in fact, probably BIGGER)! I just feel (for me) that nobody knows the long term effects of this shit. That's my only real reservation. So, to sum it up,
Hey, it's all good. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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Meanone....check your mail... ------------------ | ||
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Olympian
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Doesn't appeal to me at all. But, to each his own! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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meanone,would you post a pic of those 22inch arms you gained from synthol? before & after would be great! is it true p&p makes that stuff in his bath tub? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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all i know is you must be one crazy mofo to use that shit, it's not worth it!!!!!!!! | ||
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Cool Novice
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No, I do not make my product in my bath tub, or in any uncontrolled envirement for that matter, which I doubt could be said for many other products out there. Do you ask "A" if he makes his magic solution in the bathtub? Piont proven. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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quote:
I personally have never used it, and I have no intentions of using it, however: some people who dont or rarely workout criticize people who use creatine. some people who use creatine critcize people who use use andro. some people who are so called "natural" critcize people who use roids. some people who use roids criticize people who use synthol. it makes no sense. to each his own. If you dont want to do it, then dont. but dont criticize the next man for doing it. How many people in this world are TRUELY NATURAL?... I would say few to NONE! Ive heard people who smoke cigarettes, drink alcohol, take drugs(prescription and non), dont work out, eat all kinds of shit, and who know what else, criticizing people who do andro and creatine! I mean come on ...... to each his own.... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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quote: Im curious also... where does the oil go? and what are the long term effects.... MEANONE.... | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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This is a very interesting topic and situation in the bodybuilding world. I personally never plan to touch the stuff, but to those of you who do to each his own! However, my opinion is some people look at juicing as cheating as was mentioned earlier, however, for any extreme bodybuilder its the next logical step to use steiods to aid in building size, mass, and "quality muscle"! However, using all these oil products to get you muscles pumped up brings bodybuilding to a level above juicing. Is this level right or wrong? I guess it all comes down to a matter of opinion. Yet, I feel steriods are very practical and you have to work hard, train, diet, and sleep. Oil products go in and blow you up and give you a false sense of muscle that is no longer you own. I feel if I have made it this far on my own there is no need to use that stuff and have muscles that are no longer truely yours! Mass Monster | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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For the record, I'll never use it. For me, it's like getting pec or calves implants... As a lot of people said previously, if you like it, do it ! | ||
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quote: LOL. MeanOne. I stand corrected. I bow to your supreme Knowledge. HeHe..... Mike001: I know I try to correct people. 9 times out of 10 I'll be correct. If I'm wrong however, I'll readily admit it, like I just did now. Godspeed | ||
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I don't want to look that big- I want to BE that big. | ||
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Cool Novice
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I have been training for ten years now. I have trained all body parts the same amount. No matter what I do my calves will not grow. I am 5'10" 240 about 15% bf right now. I have posted my pics and I am not stretching the truth. I have been embaressed of my calves since day one, so much that I rarely ever wear shorts to the gym. I have finally decided to go with the synthol. My point being that everyone has a bodypart or two that will not grow, but if one has made every effort to train that muscle properly and it still does not grow, what choice is left? This is my justification. If someone is plain lazy and does not try to train that muscle to the fullest and goes right for the synthol then they are stupid and looking for the quick way. That would be cheating if you ask me. Most of you bro's can attest to the fact that most people look to gear for the fast and easy way to build muscle, this is human nature, all humans are lazy and want it all now and easy. So if a person has train a lacking bodypart to the best of the capabilities and it does not grow then it's not cheating.My current stats are arms 19.250, legs 28.750, chest 49.5, and calves 15.750. | ||
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Olympian
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I HAVE NEVER USED IT AND NEVER WILL. IF PEOPLE USE IT AND LIKE IT THEN BY ALL MEANS KEEP USING IT. IT IS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE NEVER REALLY BEEN INTERESTED IN THOUGH  M18 ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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If you wont to compete on the national and pro level ---synthol is a must-----use it and move up the ranks----dont use it--you wont even place in the top 15----or course their is always the one freak who places well without it, but for everyones else--It is a must have------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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LOL, Fonz it wasn't the big of a deal, I was just joking around when I wrote that, but now that I am rereading it, it could easly seem as if I wasn't trying to be humorous but just an asshole. LOL, not that I'm EVER an asshole...hee hee. Anyway, MeanOne knows his Synthol products VERY well! | ||
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Olympian
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So Wombat, without maybe thinking of it you just made Arnold the number one BB ever. Everyone agrees he will not place in the top 5 now, but h� he didn't have the Synthol. Meaning there is not one BB who competes now that could have beaten Arnold 25-30 years ago. (Except Sergio of course). I know, i know, just a thought. Maybe the BB's of today are overrated. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Freak
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quote: This is what the infamous Chris Clark had to say about it: "I am still trying to learn the facts of how it is broken down in the body. Since it leaves the muscle eventually, I guess it must get metabolized in one way or another, but I dont know for sure ------------------ E2's Steroid Pictures Pictures of many different drugs. AJC' Steroid Profiles Profiles of many different steroids 2Thick's Injection Procedures Site Complete with Pictures and Diagrams! Finaplix by Mr H A complete guide to Fina | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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most of you guys dont seem to understand why 90% of synthol users use it... YES we do have access to gear... So why do we use synthol? There is only so far your body can go, even with roids... So I personally(and i beleive most others also) use synthol to get past my genetics... I standed at 18" biceps for over 2 cycles... i determined my bi's weren't gonna grow anymore... SO i resorted to synthol | ||
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Fonz here, Just had a thought about Synthol. Synthol is esentially an oil. An oil is a fat(triglyceride). This fat is injected into the muscle causing it to swell. This fat deteriorates over time. After you've done a few cycles of Synthol you've injected quite a hefty dose of triglycerides into your body. Now, here comes the kicker: That oil is going to dissipate into the bloodstream in order to get metabolized. This means that WHILE YOU HAVE SYNTHOL IN YOUR BODY YOUR TRIGLYCERIDE LEVELS ARE GOING TO BE HIGH. This puts you at risk of cardiovascular problems such as arterial blockage due to plaque-like fat deposits in your arteries. Just a thought..... Godspeed | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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Just like you said, it dissipates... It never gets into your blood stream | ||
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Novice
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This is Fonz again. Rugby, what the hell are you talking about it dissipates?????? into what????? It has to be METABOLIZED by the body it can't simply DISSIPATE. Having said this, the triglycerides form the Synthol will leak from the muscle and join the tryglicerides in the blood, creating hypertrglyceridemia. Godspeed | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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i dont agree fonz... from what i know, it breaks itself down | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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I came across this today, you might find it interesting. SYNTHOL "PUMP N POSE" Description: Synthol is an intermuscular fatty acid that bodybuilders are now using to give increased size in small muscle groups. Gains of 1 inch in muscles like the calves, biceps, and shoulders are not unheard of. It is actually synthetic oil that is injected right in to the muscles you want to enhance in size. The way that this product works is that it becomes encapsulated between the fascicles (bundles of muscle fibers). Upon repeated injections, a huge bolus of the oil accumulates, adding volume to the injected muscle. About 30% of the amount injected will be broken down by your enzyme system and is metabolized like normal fat because of its unique chemical structure. It will not be stored as bodyfat but will be burned very fast as fuel. The remainder of about 70% of the substance will be encapsulated between your muscle fibers and is broken down very slowly over the course of 3 to 5 years. Dan Duchaine recently analyzed a sample of Synthol and found it contained mostly C8 fatty acids, some C10, and about 3% C12 (the C and the number relate to what length the fat is - short, medium, or long). The mixture also contained 7.5% lidocaine (a painkiller) and 7.5% benzyl alcohol. There is currently some debate on whether you can take regular MCT oil as a substitute for "the real Synthol" which costs between $300-400 per bottle. Because of the structure of Synthol and the fast encapsulation your enzyme system, your body has a real hard time spotting the substance and breaking it down. Supposedly if you use this product correctly you won't come down with any kind of infection or any really bad side effects. To get no detrimental effects you have to be careful about the amounts you inject the first couple of times you use the stuff, otherwise you could experience an accumulation of lymphatic fluids in your arms for a couple of days. Working out while taking Synthol is quite another story. Synthol makes it real hard at first to train because sometimes after just one set of any upper body exercise, your guns will feel pumped like after a hundred sets of any arm exercise. I have not tried this nor Esiclene, but this product is supposedly more painful than Esiclene with all of the swelling that you will experience from using this compound. Esiclene was an Italian steroid that was used a lot in the '80's for causing site swelling in order to also bring up lagging body parts. Supposedly, not too many people can stand the pain when using Synthol for enlarging the calves; it's just so nasty. As far as side effects are concerned, that is still up in the air. The makers of the substance say that there are really no side effects but injecting any significant amount of fatty-acid material intramuscularly can be extremely dangerous. When you jab a syringe into a muscle without any knowledge or regard to nerve distribution, you may hit a nerve and possibly cause permanent paralysis of groups of muscle fibers within that area. And besides the increased possibility of developing abscesses, there is also the possibility you might inject the fat into a vein or artery and cause serious tissue damage downstream. If this stuff is accidentally injected into a vein or artery, it could be transported into the lungs, possibly causing a "pulmonary embolism" or perhaps even into the brain, causing a "cardioembolic stroke." It's also known that injecting fatty acids into the system can lead to a condition where blood clots can develop, resulting in coronaries and strokes." The bottom line is that you need to weigh the risks to benefits ratio for yourself and decide if it is worth it for you to get some instant gains. In my opinion, this would be an excellent pre-contest drug but for the average bodybuilder that will never compete it really is not worth the pain or cost to use. I have not used this compound and probably never will. It is just another of those things that competitive bodybuilders use to give them an edge over the competition. | ||
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Novice
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NOTHING WORSE THAN A DUDE WALKING AROUND WITH NO TRAPS, NO SHOULDERS, NO FOREARMS AND 22 INCH OBVIOUS OIL INJECTED BICEPS......WHY DONT YOU JUST GET A FULL BODY IMPLANT AND FUCK LIFTIN ALTOGETHER........ ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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I will never use Synthol...not even after a cold shower. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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I have enough trouble with oil and anabolics. ------------------ |
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posted March 16, 2001 01:31 AM
