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rojen

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posted March 15, 2001 10:48 PM

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Alright, going into my fourth day at 600mg/day and I'm sweating like a whore in church! For real!! But I am not feeling shitty or flu-like...just hot. I woke up this morning and seriously thought I wet my bed since I was sweating so much while sleeping. And I also notice ALOT of water retention in my abdominal area. I am bloated and flat which makes me appear "fatter". But I know when I come off the DNP, all the water will leave and my glycogen boost will fill me up and leave me looking ripped. I just hate the point where I'm at now, since i am looking so flat and water-filled! I'll let you guys know how it's going for the next week...since I know some of you are interested in taking DNP.- Rojan


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Into my fifth day and I'm sweating ALL the time now. I bumped up my dosage to 800mg/day and still don't feel like shit, but I am hot as hell all the time. Some of these carb cravings I am getting are unreal, last night I cam home from the gym had 2 bowls of cheerios, 2 slices of wheat, and a bannana. I tried to go no-carbs for a day, but I think by blood-sugar levels dropped and left me feeling like shit throughout the day, so I do eat a descent amount of carbs to keep the energy up.- Rojan


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posted March 17, 2001 12:49 PM

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SOUNDS GOOD! KEEP US UPDATED, I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW HOW MUCH BF YOU DROP ON THIS CYCLE

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Omega44

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Fuck doing high dosages huh??? i only ran 400mg/day for 7 days and lost 10pounds. im starting my next cycle tomorrow but im guna throw in ECA for a little extra fat burning power and energy. i had flu like symptoms on DNP all the way threw it was hell.


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posted March 17, 2001 01:17 PM

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my friend was on dnp and did:
1 two wk cycle (too long I don't recommend it)
1 10 day cycles
1 7day cycles
and he lost 65lbs. he weighed 255 and just dropped it. you should eat a little more during dnp use to keep it from eating ur muscles.
also for added fat loss take a legal supplement in between cycles

don't do over one week, after about 8-10days he claimed his cum was yellow but who knows


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the captain

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posted March 17, 2001 01:51 PM

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when i bumped up to just 600mg/d, i got sick and i broke out in rash; 1st day (rash)--looked like a very bad sunburn. by the end of the week my skin was purple.
gonna stick to low dosages.


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Kookyguy

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posted March 17, 2001 04:44 PM

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Damit am I the only guy in the world that cant find this stuff?
I can find any product under the sun except dnp.
Man I want to try this stuff


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LOL - yeah, I think you ARE the only one! I've done it. About a month ago with spectacular results... I'm now 11% bf, 5'8" tall, 118 lbs. A little on the thin side but my stomach looks fabulous. If you can put up with torture, go for it! Q


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The_Iron_Game

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quote:
Originally posted by rojen:
I bumped up my dosage to 800mg/day and still don't feel like shit, but I am hot as hell all the time. Some of these carb cravings I am getting are unreal, last night I cam home from the gym had 2 bowls of cheerios, 2 slices of wheat, and a bannana. Rojan

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!!

LISTEN UP ROJEN GET OFF THAT AND GET OFF IT NOW. NOT ONLY HAVE YOU FUCKED UP ONCE BUT TWICE. DNP TAKES A WHILE TO BUILD UP IN YOUR SYSTEM AND ONCE IT DOES YOU WILL NOTICE IT. BY UPPING YOUR DOSE TO 800 YOU ARE LUCKY NOT TO BE IN HOSPITAL WITHIN THE NEXT FEW DAYS. NOT ONLY THAT BUT YOU ARE EATING SHIT LOAD OF CARBS AS WELL?


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Yea I was thinking that was a bit much too from what I've read about the correct doses. I'm sure Fonz will have something to say about it though


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quote:
Originally posted by The_Iron_Game:
[b]WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!!

LISTEN UP ROJEN GET OFF THAT AND GET OFF IT NOW. NOT ONLY HAVE YOU FUCKED UP ONCE BUT TWICE. DNP TAKES A WHILE TO BUILD UP IN YOUR SYSTEM AND ONCE IT DOES YOU WILL NOTICE IT. BY UPPING YOUR DOSE TO 800 YOU ARE LUCKY NOT TO BE IN HOSPITAL WITHIN THE NEXT FEW DAYS. NOT ONLY THAT BUT YOU ARE EATING SHIT LOAD OF CARBS AS WELL?


[/B]


Iron Game don't you think thats a bit harsh?
I mean 800mg/day isn't life-threatenning.
It is the maximum dosage I'd recommend
though. Assuming he's 80-100Kg thats
about 10-12mg/Kg. Thats in the upper end
of the spectrum. Some people just tolerate
DNP better than others.

Godspeed


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posted March 17, 2001 05:49 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by Delinquent:
Yea I was thinking that was a bit much too from what I've read about the correct doses. I'm sure Fonz will have something to say about it though


Man, you must be psychic. LOL

I would like to know his bodyweight though, as
he didn't post it. If he's less than 80Kg,
his dosage represents a problem like Iron
Game said.

Godspeed


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rojen

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posted March 17, 2001 05:54 PM

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What do you mean I fucked up Iron game? I have to eat carbs or else I feel like shit. When I eat carbs I feel fine. Trust me, Ive done plently of research on DNP and know what the fuck I am doing. If you do not eat carbs, you feel like you have the flu. Like Fonz said, I guess I can just handle DNP a little better than everone else.- Rojan


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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 17, 2001 05:55 PM

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Fonz maybe a little harsh but this is a young person. The older ones cannot possibly be this naieve. After his 4th day he got nothing on 600mgs so he upped it to 800mgs, come on get serious for a minute. While the elite few may be able to handle these amounts the majority could not. It is evident he cannot cope because he is as AMP put it 'pouring oil on fire'.

The difference between beneficial amounts and those amounts that could end up killing you are a couple hundred mgs. Lets hope it wasnt this 200mgs. Delinquent, Fonz will not ever 'advise' or advocate these amounts. If he can cope himself then that is great but this post is fucked up and so is Rojen.

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posted March 17, 2001 05:56 PM

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Rojen you have only been on for 4 days, now no disrespect to yourself but if you felt the need to up it to 800mgs in the 5th day then you didnt research enough. Also eating carbs is making the problem worse when using dnp, limit carb intake and resist those temptations.

Peace


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posted March 17, 2001 06:01 PM

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Rojen, if you're a newbie to DNP, stay at 600mg/day.
DO NOT GO OVER THIS!!!. That is the
maximum amount for a newbie to try.
I said 800mg/day based on prior use. I have
done several cycles, and can therefore go
higher than other people. Also, where in
Romania are you from? Bucharest, Brasov,
Constanza?

Godspeed


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quote:
Originally posted by The_Iron_Game:
Rojen you have only been on for 4 days, now no disrespect to yourself but if you felt the need to up it to 800mgs in the 5th day then you didnt research enough. Also eating carbs is making the problem worse when using dnp, limit carb intake and resist those temptations.

Peace




Very true. DNP blocks the production of
ATP from glucose, and the energy from the
ATP is released as heat.
Carbs=glucose=more ATP=You get
VERY HOT.
At 800mg/day, if you eat more than 400g carbs /day
you will feel like a furnace. And I'm talking from
experience. A 101 temp for 3 days is not
very pleasurable.

Godspeed

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Hey Kookyguy, I'll lead you in the right direction for DNP if you can get me genuine
Negma Para LOL .
Later Munzer


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Fonz...let's take a look at what you said

"DNP blocks the production of ATp from glucose...more glucose=more ATP."

If DNP is blocking the production of ATP form glucose...how does more glucose equal more ATP!!

DNP is a beta-3 drug...the heat is caused by the uncoupling of the electron transport train! Did you actually take you temp? once ATP stores are gone (which will happen in a matter of days) DNP does not cause a rise in body temp since it affects all mitocondria throught the entire body, not just muscle cells...

Now, you guys suggest low carbs?!!! What does DNP do to blood sugar and glucose? It drives it low as all hell (did someone metion lethargy on DNP?), and what is the basis for low carbs in a diet...to lower blood sugar and glucose levels...if you want feel like shit (not just hot) on DNP and go blind, then eat 0 carbs...


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quote:
Originally posted by Verbal Gorilla:
Fonz...let's take a look at what you said

"DNP blocks the production of ATp from glucose...more glucose=more ATP."

If DNP is blocking the production of ATP form glucose...how does more glucose equal more ATP!!

DNP is a beta-3 drug...the heat is caused by the uncoupling of the electron transport train! Did you actually take you temp? once ATP stores are gone (which will happen in a matter of days) DNP does not cause a rise in body temp since it affects all mitocondria throught the entire body, not just muscle cells...

Now, you guys suggest low carbs?!!! What does DNP do to blood sugar and glucose? It drives it low as all hell (did someone metion lethargy on DNP?), and what is the basis for low carbs in a diet...to lower blood sugar and glucose levels...if you want feel like shit (not just hot) on DNP and go blind, then eat 0 carbs...




I grow tired of having my words misconstrued.

ATP(Adenosine tri-phosphate is formed from
Glucose, via the Krebs cycle.
Ok, you go that through your thick skull....

then

DNP blocks the production of ATP, (it actually
gives you temporary diabetes). This means
the energy has to go somewhere, so it is
released as heat. Therefore the temp goes UP.

then , what did I actually mean:


More carbs means more glucose, since
1g carbs=1g glucose(100% conversion)
(Protein BTW=58% to glucose, and
fat 10% to glucose).
This means the body is hypothetically trying to
produce more ATP from the Glucose.
But it can't as its being blocked by
the DNP. So, the glucose is going
to be released as HEAT.

Furthermore, beta-3 agonists work through the
stimulation of BAT(Brown adipose tissue).
Which increases calories burned. BAT is very
dense in Mitochondria.


Godspeed


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damn now thats a brother that knows his shit......lol cant we all get along

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bigrand

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Bro, 600 is enough.
DNPs effects occur at the tail end of the Krebs cycle (electron transport chain). The Krebs cycle is the metabolization of glucose. The more carbs you take in, the more Krebs' cycles you will go through, the more entropy when the electron transport chains are interupted.
Very shitty way of explaining it, i know.

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I'm in the same boat Kooky, been dying to try (no pun intended) haven't been able to yet


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I want some too!!! C'mon... somebody e-mail me with a source! Thanks .

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FONZ>>>You are my new hero... I have some major respect for you bro


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I have read many of your posts fonz and I see you at both sides of the spectrum... are there like 5 guys using the same name? roflmao... one minute you are asking about using the fina gun on yourself... the next minute your are breaking down shit like this... well at both sides I am impressed but in this case it is a good thing...
quote:
Originally posted by Fonz:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Verbal Gorilla:
[b]Fonz...let's take a look at what you said

"DNP blocks the production of ATp from glucose...more glucose=more ATP."

If DNP is blocking the production of ATP form glucose...how does more glucose equal more ATP!!

DNP is a beta-3 drug...the heat is caused by the uncoupling of the electron transport train! Did you actually take you temp? once ATP stores are gone (which will happen in a matter of days) DNP does not cause a rise in body temp since it affects all mitocondria throught the entire body, not just muscle cells...

Now, you guys suggest low carbs?!!! What does DNP do to blood sugar and glucose? It drives it low as all hell (did someone metion lethargy on DNP?), and what is the basis for low carbs in a diet...to lower blood sugar and glucose levels...if you want feel like shit (not just hot) on DNP and go blind, then eat 0 carbs...


I grow tired of having my words misconstrued.

ATP(Adenosine tri-phosphate is formed from
Glucose, via the Krebs cycle.
Ok, you go that through your thick skull....

then

DNP blocks the production of ATP, (it actually
gives you temporary diabetes). This means
the energy has to go somewhere, so it is
released as heat. Therefore the temp goes UP.

then , what did I actually mean:


More carbs means more glucose, since
1g carbs=1g glucose(100% conversion)
(Protein BTW=58% to glucose, and
fat 10% to glucose).
This means the body is hypothetically trying to
produce more ATP from the Glucose.
But it can't as its being blocked by
the DNP. So, the glucose is going
to be released as HEAT.

Furthermore, beta-3 agonists work through the
stimulation of BAT(Brown adipose tissue).
Which increases calories burned. BAT is very
dense in Mitochondria.


Godspeed[/B][/QUOTE]


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Fonz...you are a walking contradiction...

Post #1: "more glucose=more ATP"
Post #2: You sum up that DNP causes ATP depletion.

You post that DNP causes "temporary diabetes" yet you advocate a low carb diet on DNP.

"This means the body is hypothetically trying to produce more ATP from the Glucose."
This sentence does not even make sense...I believe I know what you are trying to say...but come on...read the sentence again...

DNP is nothing like diabetes...BAT is dense in mitrocondria...And what does any of this have to do with body temp?


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You are obviously intelligent enough to make read and learn and make intelligent posts...now you need to reread and stop thinking of yourself as god...and learn that a lot of times you are wrong...or right for the wrong reasons...


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ATP is depleated beacuse the body cannot make ATP. ATP is created through the Krebs cycle (about 36 ATP) 2 are created outside michtochondria, 2 inside, and about 32 in the ETC. The ETC is rendered innefective, so you loose 32 ATP. Im not gonna explain right now, i dont have my Campbell Bio book with me now and i dont wanna type that much!


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i wanna get some of that dnp shit too but I never find it. Is it really worth all the sweating and uneasy feeling?


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I am surprised, with as potentially dangerous as DNP *can* be, that someone would up their dose mid-ccyle in such a manner.

Whenever I do finally find some of this stuff (and thats not easy at all), and do some, I will stay quite moderate, say 400, until I go through at least one complete cycle to see how my body responds.


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quote:
Originally posted by Riker29:
I am surprised, with as potentially dangerous as DNP *can* be, that someone would up their dose mid-ccyle in such a manner.

Whenever I do finally find some of this stuff (and thats not easy at all), and do some, I will stay quite moderate, say 400, until I go through at least one complete cycle to see how my body responds.



I'm doing 900mg/day now.....

I wonder what handle I'll be now....

Godspeed


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I gotta agree, everyone has different tolerances. 200mg at a bodyweight of 265 fucks my world up!!!!!

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