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 Im thinking about my first cycle, please help.
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Cool Novice 
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I think I am ready to take my first cycle. I think I have tried every possible legal supplement out there, and have not gotten the results that I want. I eat well and work out hard, but due to my genetic makeup, I am definately a "hard-gainer." I am 6'0 and only 160 pounds. I have good muscle structure and a good build, but im pretty small. What would be the best product for me to buy that will give me at least 15 pounds of muscle gain and the least amount of side-effects. Money isn't an issue, I figure when it comes to my body, I would rather spend more money for better quality. I would also prefer a pill if possible, im pretty weary about the whole needle thing. Please help me figure out what products I should get to start up.     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 191 |
Dbol and Deca you won't be disapointed. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 14 |
Are those pills? what should I expect for gains, how much should I expect to pay? and What should I expect for Side-Effects? Thanks for your help. | ||
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Olympian 
Posts: 1501 |
It is apparant you have much learning to do young grass hopper. These arn't GNC supplements to be dicking around with. There are health issues that must be dealt with to use responsibly and safely. You MUST know what you're doing. Read here all you can. Learn all you can. At first it will look like a foreign language but you will catch on quickly. When you start to understand posts you will begin to aquire the neccessary knowledge to use safely and effectively. Please ask questions if you have them but most importantly take the time to learn about these drugs, how they will affect your body, and how they work. | ||
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Olympian
Posts: 1537 |
I THINK THAT YOU NEED TO GET OVER YOUR FEAR OF NEEDLES. THEY ARE NOT THAT BAD, I WAS SCARED SHITLESS OF MY FIRST SHOT BUT NOW THAT I HAVE DONE SOME THEY ARE PRETTY EASY. I WOULD GO WITH TEST AND EQ OR TEST AND DECA. TAKE 400MG/WEEK OF DECA OR EQ FOR WEEKS 1-10 AND 500MG/WEEK OF TEST FOR WEEKS 1-8. THAT CYCLE SHOULD GET YOU TO THE GOALS YOU HAVE SET. MAKE SURE YOU GET ALOT OF CLEAN CALS AND AT LEAST 2 GRAMS OF PROTEIN PER POUND OF BODY WEIGHT. ALSO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE CLOMID FOR POST CYCLE M18 ------------------ | ||
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Olympian
Posts: 1537 |
ALSO LIKE BEEZERS SAID, DO ALOT OF RESEARCH BEFOR YOU START. THE SIDES ARE THERE BUT THEY CAN BE KEPT TO A MINIMUM IF YOU TAKE THE RIGHT PRECAUTIONS. GOOD LUCK M18 | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 14 |
Thanks for the advice, I have read about the liver effects and the percautions to take... I am prepared to take those. I have, in fact, read almost every post on this board, that is why I am asking my questions here... I believe a lot of these people will be able to steer me in the right direction. As far as eating, I already consume about 400g of protien per day and a lot of calories, with the help of some myoplex's and a lot of steak and meat. I work out hard and have good muscle structure, but 20 lbs. of muscle would make me look great. After my reading of all of this, I finally decided that it is time to use AS, so I just wanted to know what to buy, and what to expect as far as side-effects, gains, and cost. | ||
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Olympian
Posts: 1501 |
You're going to have to suck it up and use injectables. Safer and more effective. Needles don't hurt so don't make that an issue. For your first mass cycle nothing is better than a long ester testosterone. Sustanon, enanthate, or cypionate will produce dramatic and respectable gains in mass and strength and the sides are minimal and controllable. A general dose of 500mg/week will work wonders provided diet and training and rest are right on target. No real need to stack the first go round however these esterified tests take time to produce results so dbol(oral) for the first four to five weeks will get the ball rolling. 30mg/day will be ample and productive. Learn about these products first. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 651 |
If you think that needles hurt, then you are not training hard enough. You better train hard for a few years before starting your first cycle. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 559 |
learn more before you consider steroids... are you sure you are eating enough and getting enough sleep.. my friend was like you could't gain weigth worth a danm.. theni forced him to start eating lots more food. 6000k a day and he gone from 140-167. but if your set on gear, do test and d-bol and needles dont hurt at all | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 31 |
Just do some more resch. before you start taking anything. You will find all the information that you will need with the seach option. Damn, I never thought that I would be the one to say that.heheheheh | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 14 |
I already went from 135 to 160 with a strict diet and workout plan, and I have def. platued. So I think my diet and workout are on a good path (I am over 5000kc and 300g protien). Pain from the needles doesnt bother me, I have blood work done regularly, and I have never had a problem with a shot. Its just that I dont know the first thing about injecting, and I would be afraid of an air-bubble, nicking a vein, or anything else that could go wrong. Popping a pill would be a no-brainer and it seems pretty harmless as long as I take all the liver\kidney precautions. I have also heard of good gains with d-bol standalone (20+lbs). I am only 20 so my test level is already naturally pretty high right now, so I was just thinking of taking d-bol 25-30mg ED for about 7-10 weeks and following w\ clomid or hcg. should I be taking clomid\hcg throughout the whole cycle? or just at the end? | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 2549 |
6 foot and 160lbs and wanting to begin. Open your eyes | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 14 |
I was a late starter in the weight-lifting scene... and after my initial 25 lb. gain, I wouldnt think I needed any "aid." Even now, even though I have a small frame, I look good... thats why I just want a moderate gain of 20 lbs. | ||
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Olympian
Posts: 1501 |
Do yourn research and you'll learn how to inject. There is nothing complicated or risky about it. It's for the most part a no brainer just like dropping a pill down your throat. Kepp eating and training and in the mean time learn all you can about this game. You'll know when you're ready. | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 3 |
hi , im an ex special forces guy from england. i wheighed in at 310lbs but in 1996 i got stabbed on duty. i was taking PROTROpin which is a human growth hormone. after spending 32 weeks in hospital on an iv drip wasnt good for the size i was. i went to 102lbs which apparently is bloody dangerous. i am now sitting on a plateau of 230lbs but i want to get back to the bigger size. i have only been on seppliments from gnc and a healthy diet but i cannot shift upwards from this. i was after some HGH but cant get it here in USA. what is all this i hear about deca and is it anywhere near as good as testosterone injectables? anyone who could help would be appreciated |
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posted March 15, 2001 07:21 PM