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crapper

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posted March 15, 2001 05:55 PM

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Right now I'm about 170lbs. 5'10 25yrs old 12-16%bf

I'm gonna run an 8 week cycle of anavar, paper winny, t3, and clen. I'm also gonna have Clomid on hand.

WEEK----ANAVAR------WINNY----T3----CLEN
1--------20mgED--------------------e/c/a
2--------25mgED--------------------E/C/A
3--------30mgED-----50mgED--------4tabED
4--------35mgED-----50mgED--------6tabED
5--------30mgED-----50mgED---1ED---e/c/a
6--------25mgED-----75mgED---2ED---E/C/A
7-------------------75mgED---2ED---4tabED
8-------------------50mgED---1ED---6tabED

I figure to run the clomid tabs starting week 6 for 4 weeks:

First week -100mg ed
Second week- 50mg ed
Third week - 50mg ed
Fourth week - 50mg eod

Please critique me.....and keep in mind I'm not looking to bulk I figure I'll be 180-185 by the time I start this in 8 weeks.

I get gyno easy so do you think I need to get some nolvadex to combat the winny?

Thanks guys!

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crapper

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posted March 15, 2001 06:21 PM

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FUCK THIS ....BUMP CUZ IT TOOK ME SO MANY TIMES TO GET IT RIGHT!


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Jback

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posted March 15, 2001 06:26 PM

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keep the anavar at the same dosage, or even 5mg higher the first two weeks-do .125 times your bodyweight to figure out the dosage-your gonna have to go higher with the t3-1 day for 4days, 2/day for 4 days etc. up to 4 a day and then back down-winny doesn't cause gyno-it actually helps prevent it.

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lawnsaver

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I would do your highest doses first. You want to hit those receptors hard while they are fresh. Save the clomid till 3 days after last shot. I would take some ala and milk thistle, since both drugs are c17aa. I dont think you get anymore than 15lbs. Keep your diet clean and train hard.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jback:
winny doesn't cause gyno-it actually helps prevent it.


Winny helps with progestone induced gyno, not estrogen related gyno. I dont think gyno will even be an issue.

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Jback

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posted March 15, 2001 06:30 PM

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yeah the diet is just as important if not more than the drugs.

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crapper

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posted March 15, 2001 06:31 PM

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ok COOL!

I'll do a diamond with the T3 Up and Down for 4 weeks.

Lawnsaver, these are all orals so does that affect my clomid schedule/usage/dosage. Should I maybe just run it for 3 weeks if I use it after my cycle?

Do i need to bother w/ the nolvadex either?


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Fonz

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posted March 15, 2001 06:32 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by crapper:
Right now I'm about 170lbs. 5'10 25yrs old 12-16%bf

I'm gonna run an 8 week cycle of anavar, paper winny, t3, and clen. I'm also gonna have Clomid on hand.

WEEK----ANAVAR------WINNY----T3----CLEN
1--------20mgED



Winny is a DHT derrivative and does not aromatize
at any dosage.

Godspeed


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crapper

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posted March 15, 2001 06:34 PM

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So fonz....I needn't bother with nolvadex?

Thanks for ALL your help fellas!


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lawnsaver

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posted March 15, 2001 06:35 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by crapper:
ok COOL!

I'll do a diamond with the T3 Up and Down for 4 weeks.

Lawnsaver, these are all orals so does that affect my clomid schedule/usage/dosage. Should I maybe just run it for 3 weeks if I use it after my cycle?

Do i need to bother w/ the nolvadex either?


I would use clomid for 2 weeks. Start 3 days after you last winny injection. Your test level should come back easily. Nolva isnt needed.

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Jback

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posted March 15, 2001 06:38 PM

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no need for nolvadex-like fonz said no aromitization and Lawnsaver in my PERSONAL experience I used winny towards the tail end of a sos/decca/dbol cyce in which I was devloping a few symptons,I had no anti estrogens available at the time and it totally reduced the swelling and I never had a problem with it after that.

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Fonz

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posted March 15, 2001 06:38 PM

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Nolvadex isn't needed, but I'd still take
10mg ED to suppress natural estrogen.

Godspeed


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Jback

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posted March 15, 2001 06:43 PM

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I wouldn't worry too much about the anavr and winny oral combination-anavr is 17 alpha alkylated where as winny is c-17AA

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kingjohn

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posted March 15, 2001 07:22 PM

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I'm looking at a similar cycle.

Fonz- you would take nolvadex ED of the cycle? or When would you start?


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Fonz

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posted March 15, 2001 07:25 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by kingjohn:
I'm looking at a similar cycle.

Fonz- you would take nolvadex ED of the cycle? or When would you start?



For cutting cycles ED.

Godspeed


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crapper

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posted March 16, 2001 03:36 PM

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So, all you newbies out there......"IT PAYS TO SHUT UP AND LISTEN AND USE THE FREAKIIN SEARCH BUTTON"

I put this cycle together all myself (damn I'm proud) and have had nothing but constructive feedback from it! I'm psyched and put the orders in today.

Any other opinions will be appreciated.


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