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ripped103

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posted March 15, 2001 03:15 PM

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sus**dball**deca**eq
1500*50mg**600mg**300mg
1500*50mg**600mg**300mg
1500*50mg**600mg**300mg
1500*50mg**600mg**300mg
1500*50mg**600mg**300mg

sus**anavar**deca***eq
1500mg*50mg**600mg**300mg
1000mg*50mg**600mg**300mg
1000mg*50mg**600mg**300mg
1000mg*50mg**600mg**300mg
1000mg*50mg**600mg**300mg

prop**fina**winny**eq
300mg*300mg*100mgd*300mg
300mg*300mg*100mgd*300mg
this will be for 6 weeks with the gear above.
hgh will be used throughout at 4iu a day 5 days a week and three ip hgh tabs.slin will be used 12iu in am and post workout with 25mcg cytomel weeks 1-6 and 11-16.clen and eca will be used in the last 6 weeks.clomid every other day throughout and arimidax at
1/2 a pill a day at min.tall me your thoughs


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gettingdiesel

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posted March 15, 2001 03:18 PM

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Someone is looking to Grow. Good luck you should get huge.


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ripped103

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posted March 15, 2001 03:48 PM

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nobody wants to critique me?


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Big Buck

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posted March 15, 2001 03:53 PM

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I like it, u obviously know what you're doing.


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LCBUTLER

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posted March 15, 2001 03:55 PM

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How about accutane? How do you do with the sides from the Test and DBOL?


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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 15, 2001 04:01 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by ripped103:
sus**dball**deca**eq
1500*50mg**600mg**300mg
1500*50mg**600mg**300mg
1500*50mg**600mg**300mg
1500*50mg**600mg**300mg
1500*50mg**600mg**300mg

sus**anavar**deca***eq
1500mg*50mg**600mg**300mg
1000mg*50mg**600mg**300mg
1000mg*50mg**600mg**300mg
1000mg*50mg**600mg**300mg
1000mg*50mg**600mg**300mg

prop**fina**winny**eq
300mg*300mg*100mgd*300mg
300mg*300mg*100mgd*300mg

this will be for 6 weeks with the gear above.
hgh will be used throughout at 4iu a day 5 days a week and three ip hgh tabs.slin will be used 12iu in am and post workout with 25mcg cytomel weeks 1-6 and 11-16.clen and eca will be used in the last 6 weeks.clomid every other day throughout and arimidax at
1/2 a pill a day at min.tall me your thoughs



quote:
Originally posted by ripped103:
nobody wants to critique me?

Ok I will. Please take into account this is only my opinion.

Test would make a great base for any cycle, if you are using sust there is little point in tapering it. If you are following it up with prop and other anabolics there is even less point.

You are running eq @ 300mgs/wk and deca @ 600mgs/wk. Deca more is not always better. Once the amounts used start going above 400-500mgs/wk problems it can cause would be of more harm than good. If you do wish to go ahead with deca get some winny as well and note anti estrogens will not do too much. Rather than deca and eq which are similar in quite a few aspects possibly consider sticking with eq alone at 600-800mgs/wk. This will eliminate any progestin related issues.

You are going to blow up on 600mgs of deca and 1500mgs of test along with 50mgs of dbol. It would be better to start the anavar first followed by the dbol later. This will prevent too much bloat at once. Water retention is good up to a point but overkill is not too pleasant and also to be taken into account high bp problems that maybe related to it. Anti estrogens should be used.

16 week cyle both bulking and cuttting all in one? Do a bulking stage take 3-4 weeks off restore and then start again to reduce bf levels. I also noted you are using prop, fina and winny for only 2 weeks, this is rather short. Split the cycles in to 2 get some more fina and winny and 6 weeks would be better. I strongly think you are very much complicating things.

No need to run clomid every other day throughout if you are using arimidex.


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Krusher

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posted March 15, 2001 04:03 PM

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Personally, I'd run the sust at 250mgs/daily
for about 8-10 weeks then go down to 250mgs
EOD for about 2-4 weeks..I see little point in runing the eq for 16 weeks..run it for the last 10 weeks at a higher dose than 300mgs..I won't comment on slin cuz I have zero experience or knowledge on it..the gh on top of everything else makes this a dream cycle..the arimidex will help yeild solid gains..sweet cycle dude, best of luck to you.


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ripped103

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posted March 15, 2001 04:16 PM

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ok to clarify the fina prop and winny will be 6 weeks not two.im actually using durabolin so the bloat will not be so bad.i will use 150mg evrey other day.the reason for the eq is because i need an appetite and have used it in conjuntion with deca in the past with great results.the reason why i lowered the sus for 4 weeks is because of the long half-life.i did not want that much sus carried over to the cutting portion.the reason for 16 weeks straight is because of the hgh and the synergetic effects it will have with anabolics, slin and thyroid meds.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 15, 2001 04:19 PM

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Well thought out but I would still not taper the sust. It is going to still be with you in your cutting stage and with the arimidex test such as cyp, enanthate, sust and so on make excellent 'cutting' aas. Diet is where its at. Good luck with the cycle


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ripped103

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posted March 15, 2001 04:48 PM

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thanks for your thoughts irongame.im hoping this will be the last time i need to bulk.this should put me in the 230lb area and im only 5-6.i do not want to be any heavier than what i mentioned above because its too hard too maintain.wish me luck.by the way right now im 5-6 190lbs and 11percent bodyfat


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ripped103

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posted March 16, 2001 12:28 PM

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any other critiques


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ripped103

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posted March 17, 2001 09:38 PM

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for those who havent see it yet i will bump it


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Fonz

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posted March 17, 2001 09:43 PM

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Yeah, one thing:

IP makes a HgH tab??????

I'm just curious since I thought oral
HgH drugs weren't too effcient after
Merck decided to withdraw MK-677.

Godspeed


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ripped103

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posted March 17, 2001 09:50 PM

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its increases the half-life of hgh by 3 times.something to do with the decompistion of hgh.its a prescription drug and there trying to get a patent on it,nobody carries it but him


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Fonz

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posted March 17, 2001 09:57 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by ripped103:
its increases the half-life of hgh by 3 times.something to do with the decompistion of hgh.its a prescription drug and there trying to get a patent on it,nobody carries it but him


Can you be a little more specific?

GH is a 191-amino acid Peptide Hormone,
(extremely complex)
to increase its half-life you'd have to
stop its degradation, how?


Godspeed


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ripped103

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posted March 17, 2001 10:24 PM

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i really dont know.i guess you can call me a guinni pig.i just thought id give it a try.i really didnt ask too many questions.it sounded good i bought it and like ultragains says thats the bottem line


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Fonz

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posted March 17, 2001 10:29 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by ripped103:
i really dont know.i guess you can call me a guinni pig.i just thought id give it a try.i really didnt ask too many questions.it sounded good i bought it and like ultragains says thats the bottem line


Hmmmmm....you should know what you're
taking does. He could be selling you
vitamin pills for all you know.
Are they expensive?

Godspeed


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ripped103

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posted March 17, 2001 10:45 PM

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i trust him there 500.00 for a 1000


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