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 IS SUST 250 A GOOD FIRST CYCLE???
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 83 |
Looking into doing my first cycle and was wondering if the Sust 250 was a good one to take the first time around??? And what is its average $price$??? Tanks Bros for any help you can give...    | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 7 |
With the small amount of research I have done... for the last year. I was able to find Sust250 for 16-22 bucks an amp. This was a domestic price. Hope this helps. There was talk a wile ago that it was no longer produced. That was just a rumor I belive. You might want to check with a VET just to be sure. Stien ------------------  | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 14 |
yea, sus is a very good choice for ur first cycle. but since ur body is not used to roids it will respoond to the increased test well..............for this reason i would personally up the dose to 500 or even 750 a week........ur first cycle will be one of ur most productive............i personally done 500 for 7weeks for my first cyc and put on 25 pounds............21 of which were muscle. i paid �6 for an amp of 250, thats about $10. remember to eat shit loads and keep protein uptake to about 300g a day..........good luck!! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 83 |
THANKS BROS....I am looking to put on about 12 lbs. I am at about 148 right now and want to get to about 160. While maintaining a size that is not too obvious to all my friends and family(especially). I don't want anyone to suspect that I am on anything!!! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 191 |
LSU Sus is one of the best choices out there for your first cycle. I do agree you should go with about 500mg per week and you will get excellent gains. How old are you? This could make a big difference in gains. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 227 |
sus would work nicely. Get your complimentary drugs (nolva, clomid). Drink some ice tea to keep you pissing, it may help keep water weight down. Do yourself a favor, go pick up some creatine and put it on the counter, maybe some weight gainer also. this will throw the parents off. also see how they feel about that andro crap. if they are cool with it, get an empty bottle from a friend and throw some vitamins in it(Don't buy it, save your money). This will all aid in the deception. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 83 |
I am 22, 5'9", 148 lbs, I look about 18 tops. Small frame obviously, looking to broaden my shoulders and thicken me up...But definately don't want to get too big. I don't live with my parents, nor do I get any financial support from them, however, i know my mom would be upset if she found out...That is why I only want about 12-15 lbs of gain... [This message has been edited by LSU007 (edited March 15, 2001).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 227 |
ahhh hah. well, there are other alternatives to sus. You could go for a fina\winny stack. Drink enough cranberry juice and eat enough and you will gain a solid( no bloat) 15 lbs. But sus is the easiest. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 26 |
I had a friend that was of similar size and age as you are. Last summer he took 15cc of sust250 over 10 weeks. He gained about 15 pounds and kept most of it. His gains were impressive, but it wasnt obvious he was on a cycle. He did plenty of cardio to keep from swelling up. Sust is in my opinion the best first cycle. JRock | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 83 |
What kind of gains am I looking at by taking the SUST, and I should or NOT take 20 cc's. 2 c's per inj. every week??? | ||
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Olympian 
Posts: 1501 |
Sus is a great choice for your first cycle but at 148 you don't need AS. Food is the most anabolic substance there is. You need to learn to eat if you want to grow. I doubt 148 is you natural potential. Even with AS you won't grow if you can't eat right. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 83 |
Beezers, can you elaborate a little??? I am 22, I started lifting when I was about 15. In high school, I wrestled, and i think that might have stunted my growth a bit. I was 112 while wrestling, my freshman yr. , quit the team after my soph. yr and by the time i was a senior, i was at about 135. Joined a gym at 17 and gained about 15 lbs between then and now...I am currently at this PLATEAU that i have been in for about 2yrs. I have taken creatine, whey protein, glutamine, I always eat, but am still stuck at this weight. I feel right now that I am in a LIFTING DEPRESSION!!! That is what turned me toward GEAR!!! | ||
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Freak 
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quote: Do at least 500mg Sus per week for 8 weeks. I wouldn't worry about deca or EQ for your first time out. If you've got more money to spend, go with 750mg per week. Get some clomid to take eod as well as for 3 weeks after. You should easily get up to 170 if you eat, eat, eat and you will keep most of it if you use your clomid afterwards. ------------------ Visit my website at http://profiles.elitefitness.com for up to date A.S. info and Organon T-shirts. | ||
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Olympian
Posts: 1501 |
Diet is the most important factor in all of this. Even for a severe ectomoroh you should be able to get past 148. This is an indication you arn't eating right(only speculation at this point) Food is what makes you grow while on a cycle, not the steroinds, so if you don't know how to eat or what you're eating no AS will make you grow. AS simply enhance the bodies ability to turn food energy into lean body mass. So that being said, if you don't know how to eat then you will not get results. What is your diet currently like and how much do you know about proper diet and nutrition? That's a good starting point. [This message has been edited by Beezers (edited March 15, 2001).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 191 |
I think you should go with the Sus @ 500mgs per week. If you feel you gain too much drop down to 250mgs, but that would be a good problem to have. Beezer is right that food is going to be your best friend through this so eat well and alot. Consume serious protein and good luck. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 83 |
Rarely eat fast foods...Plenty of chicken and fish...Usually Turkey sandwiches for lunch and plenty of fruit and water...no soft drinks, alcohol, or drugs!!! So what do u think??? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 305 |
yeah but you will want to take deca or primobolan, or equipoise with it to keep and solidify the gains. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 83 |
BUMP!!! Help me out...Anyone have a meal plan they can pass to me, or anything like that PLEASE DO!!! THANX BROS!!!!! | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 40 |
LSU007 Hi I started to send you my first cycle, and it was erased-sorry. But I would add deca for the entire cycle, add some sten the first few weeks and some primoteston, mid cycle, take nolvadex and finish with 3 weeks of HCG ramp up and ramp down. I was on a cycle exactly like the above (first cycle) this time last year. 15 weeks total. Started at 145# and now weight 165# 11% body fat. second week of second cycle. Solidspine | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 53 |
Hey C, I will e-mail you a good plan when I get some free time!, Later, J | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 245 |
quote: Im just curious why you would want to add primoteston mid cycle? If you were going to cycle for 8 wks, that would only be 4 weeks of primoteston...I may be wrong, but i dont think thats enough time to get results from enanthate. Also, I did sus my first cycle 500mg...my gains werent that great, but could of been because of my dieting. Anyways, Ill probably never do sus again, because of the price. You can get enanthate much cheaper and achieve the same results and I think many bros on here would agree. Drop the sus and get more enanthate...maybe add some eq....just my .02 ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 245 |
My bad solidspine..I misread your post. Youre saying to run enanthate for the first few weeks...but why not run it all the way through? Or, as i said before, just run enanthate without sus..i dont understand why someone would take both...test is test right? LSU dont forget the clomid and some nolva and you should be set. | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2623 |
LSU...I always prefer the KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) method. Just do this 1. Put 2-3cc of Sustanon in your ass every week. 2. Pop a 50mg clomid eod, until one week after your last shot then take one every day for 3 weeks. I can't say this enough: Keep the gear use simple and focus on your diet. That's where the effort comes into play. ------------------ Visit my website at http://profiles.elitefitness.com for up to date A.S. info and Organon T-shirts. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 922 |
It can be done. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 91 |
LSU007, shoot me an e-mail, I have a question for you Ferrus [email protected] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 191 |
LSU. I don't know if anyone has sent you any meal plans, but a rough guide line. You really need to write down your diet. I write mine down every day. If you go with the Sus. You should double your bodyweight with Grams of Protein. 150lbs get 300 grams of Protein. I would also recommend that you eat as many calories as possible. Depending on your metabolism, but I would try to get 3000-3500 calories per day. You can make adjustments from there. Try to get less than 15% of your calories from Fat, but don't worry too much about that. Remember there are 9 calories in a gram of Fat and only 4 calories per gram of protein and carbs. Blast me an email if you want more help | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 23 |
No Offense If you're looking for 12-15 lbs, Hell just get some Creatine, and some Nlarge do some HEavy Squatting / Clean & Jerks/ Deadliftiong for a good 8 weeks and PING POOF POW Look at'cha' now you will be 12-15 lbs Heavier trust me then if you're looking for soem more mass then do the deed Chief | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 83 |
SANDMAN!!! I have taken creatine, and it did work the first time, but I stopped taking it because I hit that PLATEAU... That is why I am thinking of doing GEAR!!! |
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posted March 15, 2001 02:12 PM
