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LCBUTLER

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posted March 15, 2001 02:09 PM

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Is there any advantage (or disadvantage) to using CYP and SUST together in a cycle. Such as this.

d-bol weeks 1-6 30mg/day
sust weeks 1-8 250mg/week
cyp weeks 1-8 200mg/wk
eq weeks 1-12 300mg/wk
clomid, etc.

or...

Should I leave the cyp out and do sust at 500mg/wk.

or...

Sust 500mg/wk and cyp at 100 or well you get the point. Opinions please.

3rd overall cycle, 1st "real" cycle.

Stats: 6'3" 230lbs 12%BF 29 Y.O.


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gettingdiesel

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posted March 15, 2001 02:34 PM

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Sustanon has Cypionate as one of its ingredients so I don't see a major advantage to using them together. I would use 500mg of Sus for five weeks then follow with 400-600mg of cyp per week untill you are done. Otherwise your cycle looks great. If you are using the Ttokyo Eq your gonna love it. Good luck and keep us posted on those results.


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LCBUTLER

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posted March 15, 2001 02:41 PM

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Sustanon:
30mg Propionate
60mg Phenylpropionate
60mg Isocaproate
100mg Deconate

I can't find that cyp is part of anyones sust product.

I am not saying one does not exist, but this is the information I have.


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LCBUTLER

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posted March 15, 2001 02:58 PM

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Bump...I know you smart guys are out there....


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Beezers

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posted March 15, 2001 03:06 PM

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First of all there is no cypionate in the ester blend that is sustanon. To you question. It's just adding testosterone to testosterone so there is absolutely no problem. You are simply raising your dose of testosterone. Don;t look at it as 250mg of sust and 200mg of cyp...See it as 450mg of testosterone stacked with dbol and eq. In that case your cycle looks very good. I would just keep it simple and do one or the other...Either cyp or sust. Sust at 500 or cyp at 500 would be great but if you must combine because you have some sitting around then use it up. There is no advantage of mixing them but there is no disadvantage.


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jrock75

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There would be no advantages to doing cyp and sust instead of just doing sustanon, but there would be advantages over just cyp. The prop in the sustanon is fast acting, so taking sust for the first few weeks until your cyp kicks in fully would be a good thing. You could also take prop for the first few weeks with your cyp and leave out the sust. Or hell you could take all three. The main factor is what you can get and how much it will cost you.

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gettingdiesel

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posted March 15, 2001 03:10 PM

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Beezer thank you for clearing that up. That is essentially what I meant, but I did think cyp was in the blend by certain co's.


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LCBUTLER

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posted March 15, 2001 03:10 PM

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Beezers...Thanks for the input. I do have quite a bit of CYP available, and a limited amount of Sust. So I will combine both so save the sust for antother cycle.

Thanks again.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 15, 2001 03:17 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by jrock75:
There would be no advantages to doing cyp and sust instead of just doing sustanon

I beg to differ. Read some

but there would be advantages over just cyp. The prop in the sustanon is fast acting, so taking sust for the first few weeks until your cyp kicks in fully would be a good thing.

The prop in each 250mgs of sust is equal to 30mgs, if he is not shooting it every other day there is little reason for doing this. Also to point out cypionate will not take as much time as you think to kick in.

You could also take prop for the first few weeks with your cyp and leave out the sust.

You mentioned there would be no point in doing sust and cyp together but then you go on indirectly to say by adding prop to the equation that there would be of benefit.


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Yes you can mix the two and as Beezer said think of it as 450mgs of test.

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LCBUTLER

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posted March 15, 2001 03:29 PM

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Can I put the sust and cyp in the same dart? I am pretty sure I can just want to double check. Thanks for everyones help.

[This message has been edited by LCBUTLER (edited March 15, 2001).]


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Mass Monster

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posted March 15, 2001 03:35 PM

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You can do anything if you put your mind to it!!!

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mike001

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posted March 15, 2001 03:35 PM

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yes you can. like he said you are just adding test to test(in the same syringe is ok)

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