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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 15, 2001 02:07 PM

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I have seen a lot of posts lately and was wondering why 50mgs of dbol will produce some dramatic results but anymore than this (say 100mgs) is simply a waste? Explain the science and reasoning please.

This post is not to say use 100mgs of dbol or I am advocating using it but would like to hear what makes you say this.

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pumping_iron_uk

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posted March 15, 2001 02:12 PM

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because if u have too much dbol in ur body only a certain amount can lock into the receptor sites........so while the receptor sites or blokced by the dbol the rest just floats round the body and will aromatise into oestragen before they get a chance to get into the receptor sites. pluss, high doses of orals arn't the best idea....they'll fuck up ur liver, if ur gonna do high doses....stick to injectables, less side effects!!


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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 15, 2001 02:23 PM

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Thank you pumping but I was looking for a more specific technical answer to my question

"why 50mgs of dbol will produce some dramatic results but anymore than this (say 100mgs) is simply a waste? Explain the science and reasoning please"

While it is obvious liver issues will be a concern this is not the reasoning and with proper attention and care liver problems are not really an issue. Dbol has a poor binding capabilities so using more may actually be positive not a waste. That said with a steroid like winstrol more may not always be better.

Peace


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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 15, 2001 04:35 PM

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So 100mgs is better lol


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banana

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posted March 15, 2001 04:40 PM

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MORE IS ALMOST ALWAYS BETTER IF YOU DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR HEALTH.


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Fonz

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posted March 15, 2001 04:45 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by The_Iron_Game:
So 100mgs is better lol


This is straight from th mouth of Dan Duchaine.

10mg of Dianabol will raise testosterone levels 5
times and decrease endogeneous cortisone
levels by 50-70%.
1. Taking 20mg at a time is a waste because
cortisone will not be suppressed any more,
and test levels will not increase 10-fold.

2. There is ABSOLUTELY no correlation between
higher oral dosages and increased blood
levels of dianabol.

3. Since the half-life of dianabol is 3.2-4.5 hours,
the most d-ball that should be taken per day
would be roughly 60mg in order to maintain
adequate blood levels of the drug.

I think the main reason why some people take
so much dball is that is has great CNS
stimulating effects. The more you take the
more pumped you feel. BUT THIS DOESN'T
MEAN THAT YOU WILL BE INCREASING
ANABOLISM FURTHER.

Can I also add that the main reason why
d-ball works well is not because it
raises test levels, but because it
is very anti-catabolic.

Godspeed


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coolhandluke

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posted March 15, 2001 04:46 PM

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many people will disagree (2thick) saying that 75mgs will yield no more gains than 50mg but I think thats a bunch of crap (2thick=poo-poo-head). whether its safe or not is another story........


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MUSTANGRACER27

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posted March 15, 2001 04:47 PM

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From my own experience I have done both. I had done 10 tabs a day for 4 weeks and switched over to 20 tabs a day. I didn't see too much of a difference in strength and size after 10 tabs. So from now I just use around 4-10 tabs a day when I take Dbol. I think your receptors get full and can only use so much dbol. I could be wrong. You best experiment on your own, But DBOL is my favorite steroid of any I used.

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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 15, 2001 05:16 PM

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Thanks everyone.Just to clarify sides are not an issue, just the 50mgs compared to the 100mgs.

Fonz while Duchaine had many interesting theories many of them remained that. There is no doubt he changed many things but not every thing he said held strength.

Dbol is a weaker binding steroids and is believed to have non AR anabolic activity. Also to be mentioned it is almost impossible to achieve complete saturation of receptors with 100mgs of dbol.

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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 15, 2001 05:23 PM

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Here is an experiment carried out but Macro's twin:

"Here is what My "Twin" found:
1. did not notice any difference in side effects between 50mg and 100mg- twin liver health is impeccable.
2. did not notice any benefits increasing from 50mg to 100mg
3. adding lots of Dbol when taking over a gram of test a week does not make much difference, for twin.
4. next time will use Dbol only with anabolics.
5. for twin, higher doses of Dbol do not much
6. this will not apply to stanozolol because its effects are much more AR mediated"

Peace


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Fonz

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posted March 15, 2001 05:35 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by The_Iron_Game:
Here is an experiment carried out but Macro's twin:

"Here is what My "Twin" found:
1. did not notice any difference in side effects between 50mg and 100mg- twin liver health is impeccable.
2. did not notice any benefits increasing from 50mg to 100mg
3. adding lots of Dbol when taking over a gram of test a week does not make much difference, for twin.
4. next time will use Dbol only with anabolics.
5. for twin, higher doses of Dbol do not much
6. this will not apply to stanozolol because its effects are much more AR mediated"

Peace




Which re-inforces what Duchaine said.

Godspeed


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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 15, 2001 05:37 PM

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hehe I mis read # 2, but looking at # 6 it could have benefits


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ultragainz

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posted March 15, 2001 06:58 PM

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i think 100mgs is too much and 50mg should be max.....but i say 30mgs is fine.....

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