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Fener

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posted March 14, 2001 06:31 PM

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because of the peanut oil it is dissolved in. a friend of mine who always gets hella sore with sus just shot 100mgs of straight prop and no pain at all. it was in sesame oil though. i too will shoot 100mgs of prop next week and let you know (i usually can't walk for five days after a shot of sus). btw do you know any other steroid dissolved in peanut oil?


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posted March 14, 2001 06:34 PM

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The old sustanon burned/stung and that was a different oil (used to be yellowish). Plus prop is an ingredient in bee stingers no?

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ok how can you explain a person getting sore as hell form every sus injection because of 30 mgs of prop, and not getting sore at all form 100mgs of pure prop? the only difference is the oil...


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posted March 14, 2001 06:47 PM

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I dont have to explan it to know that prop is painfull lol Could it be his prop is bunk or not really prop but enanthate, some "props" floating around are actually cyp or enanthate ya know?

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posted March 14, 2001 06:51 PM

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LOL...What's with all these guys takin'swipes at Slo lately?


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posted March 14, 2001 06:56 PM

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Last of the Mohicans Huck.. heheh

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posted March 14, 2001 06:59 PM

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3cc's of prop in my quad had me crippled for 5 days.......wait it was probably just the oil


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posted March 14, 2001 07:02 PM

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sorry bro it is testovis by sit 2ml 100mgs amps and i bought it myself in the pharmacy. btw can you remember other steroids besides sus in peanut oil?


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posted March 14, 2001 07:09 PM

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therealj, can you check what kind of oil was holding that prop?


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Do got a question for one of you. Who said peanut oil was in Sus. Sus is used in medical treatments. And medical companies know that there is population out there that is allergic to peanut oil. So why make a product in something that some of the population couldn't take. Also peanut oil after a few mothns can become ransid (spoil), but the expiration date on Sus amps are 3 years ahead. This could be because of it being in an air tight container so it can't turn. But the allegric question is a valid point. Hence there is not asprin in marketed ECA. Many people are allergic to asprin. And they would not be able to sell their product to some so what...thy leave it out. So I don't think it is peanut oil, but then again, I have known to be wrong.


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Good points and I have no idea of your points or if they are or ever were peanut oil I was taking feners word for it. egads!

What I can tell you is they changed the oils back about a year year and half ago from the golden oil to the clear oil. Now if any of them were peanut oil I can't really comment on. What I do know is THAT YES IT IS THE PROPINIATE THAT STINGS, ahh that fealt good.

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quote:
Originally posted by aahepp:
Do got a question for one of you. Who said peanut oil was in Sus. Sus is used in medical treatments. And medical companies know that there is population out there that is allergic to peanut oil. So why make a product in something that some of the population couldn't take. Also peanut oil after a few mothns can become ransid (spoil), but the expiration date on Sus amps are 3 years ahead. This could be because of it being in an air tight container so it can't turn. But the allegric question is a valid point. Hence there is not asprin in marketed ECA. Many people are allergic to asprin. And they would not be able to sell their product to some so what...thy leave it out. So I don't think it is peanut oil, but then again, I have known to be wrong.


Extremely good point guys.....

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ok i have many sus insturction sheets and there you can read sus is in peanut oil. you guys get an inst sheet and check it out. also i have the inst sheet of the straight prop and it says it is sesame oil. please try to get those sheets next time or maybe do a research and find out if the steroids that hurt have all in common peanut oil. i suspect it is an allergic reaction to it.


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Do some RESEARCH HUCK!!

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quote:
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[b]Do some RESEARCH HUCK!!



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BBBWWAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!

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SUST OMNA , WHATEVER HAS NEVER HURT ME IN ANY PART THAT IT WAS SHOT INTO.

IT CALLED INJECTION TECH.

ITS ONLY GOING TO HURT WHEN YOU DO IT WRONG,
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posted March 14, 2001 07:44 PM

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really guys do you think it could be possible it is the peanut oil?


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Nah Big J I think some are less sensative than others I got my technique down smoooth and that stuff burns a hole in me.

Fener: I don't think so.

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I could be mistaken but doesn't primo use peanut oil? Just a thought, because there's no pain with primo injections.

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Slabcat,if you don't feel pain with primo maybe are fake,because to me and others hurt more than sust or maybe the mine are fakes who knows.

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posted March 14, 2001 09:11 PM

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Yea Peanut Butter could make it hurt. Oh sorry oil. I don't think it matters some times it hurts and sometimes it doesn't.


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I use real primo mine doesn't burn at all, people are different and react differently to substances I suppose

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quote:
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people are different and react differently to substances


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posted March 14, 2001 09:18 PM

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Propinate-very similar to most alcohol's, IE your pain. Don't know how to explain your friends weird turn of events, maybe he was injecting just oil (IE was scammed)? Either way, prop hurts because of it's chemical structure, not because of the fluid it is suspended in.

Water based injections hurt some individuals, not because of the fact that it's water not oil, but because of the rapid release of the hormone, which irritates the surrounding tissues.


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I don't get terribly sore when I inject straight prop in the glutes, but it hurts anywhere else I put it. Sust, on the other hand, hurts when I put it in my glutes. I believe it might be due to the higher levels of alcohol used to get 250 mgs of test into solution.

I believe the oils used vary between manufacturing facilities--perhaps someone else here could shed light on that.

The old Parabolan was in peanut oil also.

BTW, propionic acid is not an ingredient in bee venom. It is a very short chain fatty acid (C-3), as is bee venom (C-1).


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On slopains answer.... I agree (oops I'm only a newbie ?!?!?) but I have had major burns from some and not from others after people saying it will burn like hell ?? I have to say isn't slopain the correct one in that it should be different for everyone. Also can't there be other factors as far as where they are injecting and how. I knew a guy that would inject in the leg and move the needle around not realizing it and couldn't walk for days without a major proublems....

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my next cycle is going to have 500mg sus and 400mg eq. when i mix the eq with the sus in the same syringe will the eq take away some pain from the sus or am i still fucked. shit i wonder how this is gonna feel. gonna be my first time with sus.


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It's the Prop alright. Prop is C-3, bee venom is C-2. Made homemade prop solution using sterile almond oil. Still hurt like a bitch.


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I remember,reading Animal's explaination on AF,he stated that Propionate's melting point is a little higher then our body temperature,so it forms crystals in depot,and that's the cause of pain.


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I think that it's only ijection tech, sust never hurts to me.
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OK FOR EVERYONE WHO REPLIED AND SIAD IT IS THE PROPIONATE, AND MAYBE THE ONE THAT DIDN'T HURT WAS FAKE ETC... PLEASE PAY ATTENTION AND GIVE AN EXPLANATION TO THIS:
I 'M TALKING ABOUT PRODUCTS I MYSELF TOOK FROM THE PHARMACIES, ALL OF EM, SO NO DOUBT THEY ARE REAL. THIS FRIEND OF MINE ALWAYS I SAY ALWAYS GETS TERRYBLY SORE FOR DAYS WITH ONE AMP OF SUS WICH IS 30MGS OF PROP. HE INJECTED 100MGS OF PURE PROP AND NO PAIN AT ALL. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE OIL (PEANUT/SUS,SESAME/PROP).PRODUCTS ARE BOTH REAL AGAIN (UNLESS THEY SELL FAKE PROP IN THE PHARMACIES!). SO PLEASE IF YOU HAVE AN EXPLANATION THAKS, BUT IF YOU DON'T, DON'T SAY MY FRIEND DIDN'T GET SORE BECAUSE HE WAS SCAMMED. I WILL SOON TRY THIS 100MG PROP AND LET YOU KNOW IF I GET SORE FORM IT. BTW I 'LL CHECK NEXT TIME BUT I DON'T THINK PRIMO IS IN PEANUT OIL.


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Ohh Damn! it's test prop in sostanon? i was mixing my own blend and added test poop. No wonder i kept clogging the needle and drawing flies.


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quote:
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people are different and react differently to substances I suppose


That is your answer


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I am going to solve this once and for all...I am going to get my natural peanut butter, draw out about 1cc of oil and shoot in my quad...hold on....

Hurt like hell, oh wait maybe it was the 16 guage dart.

I think it is because of the PROP not the OIL.


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Your friend is Jesus re-incarnate and performed a miracle.

AND IS IT NECESSARY TO SHOUT AT EVERYONE?!

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slopain sorry if i have been rude, i din't want to. it is just that i'm trying to understand with you all why we get sore, and i have replies like you 're firend has been scammed or something like that. it is not that i want to impose my opinion, but please argue with something that has sense ( not referred at you slopain). and iron you said the answer is poeple are different and react differently to substances.but if prop is the culprit,same person reacted differently to the same substance.


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who cares if some of the population is allergic to peanut oil????They just wont use it on those people. plenty of people are allergic to penacillian but its not like they said oh no got to stop using that some people are allergic to it.


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I never noticed any special pain from sus. I was however mixing it with some Deca, followed by a nice localized massage and heating pad to help disperse the oil.


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if your unaware that pharmacies will sell you fake stuff then you probably bought fake stuff.


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Peanut oil is used in Deca Norma also.Anybody experienced pain from it?


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