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DREXX

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posted March 14, 2001 12:12 PM

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DIET

-No carb diet for monday, tuesday, wednesday and thurday morning
-Carb up from thursday noon till the show (48hrs)
-I will make sure to have no more than 1000mg of Sodium for Friday and Saturday
-I will add 3000mg of Potassium (divided dosages) for Friday and Saturday
-I will drink lots of water for 10 days (8 liters) and then 24hrs before the show I will stop it all besides a couple sips to keep my mouth wet.


TRAINING

-Last heavy training on Sunday before the show (Back, Trapz and Lower back)
-Depletion workout (upper body only) on Thrusday morning just before starting the carbup
-Stop cardio about 10 days before contest unless I am still too fat
-Keep posing all the way to contest day (Atleast 30 min per day for the last 2 weeks)


DRUGS

-Winny 50mg ed for the last 6 weeks
-Fina 45mg ed for the last 4 weeks
-Test Enanthate 300mg per week for the last 6 weeks shot on Saturday
-Increase Clomid and Nolva to 100mg and 40mg for the last couple days.
-Lasix for the last 2 days probably around 40mg per day (20mg 2 times per day)


CUTTING AGENTS

-Stop all stimulants about a week out as they can interfere with the carbup
-Before that I will be using Clen @ 80mcg per day for 2 weeks (caffeine added if I can tolerate it)
-T3 will be used for the last 4 weeks (tappering up and down from 25mcg to 75mcg to 25mcg)
-Before the two weeks of Clen I will do ECAY stack 3 times per day for about 5-6 weeks.


QUESTIONS?

-LAXATIVES??? SHOULD I USE THEM THE DAY OF THE CONTEST???
-Should I use the sauna on the morning of the show if I am still holding water?
-Can someone detail exactly how I should do things between the prejudging and the evening show?

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gearseeker

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posted March 14, 2001 12:22 PM

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I think you should drop your water sooner. I go from 3 gallons per day one week out(day7), 2 gallons on day 6 and 5. One gallon on day 4. 1/2 gallon on day 3. 20oz on day 2 before noon - then no more water until after the show.

I would use Aldactone to cut water during the last week if you use the above water schedule. If you keep the water in until 24 hours before contest you may need lasix to drop the water soon enough.

Dont try anything fancy between the morning an evening shows. If you have to eat, keep it clean and just enough to keep from passing out. I like to keep some chocolate and glucose tabs close during the contest day. If I start feeling shitty - I take in a few more carbs. Same with the water - just sip if you have to.


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DREXX

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posted March 14, 2001 12:35 PM

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Thanks gearseaker!

Last contest I cut the water like this:

Tue - 8 liters
Wed - 4 liters
Thu - 2 liters
Fri - 1 liter
Sat - sips

I didn't like the result I think that when the body knows it's being water depleted it starts to hold more water. I guess this happens after 3-4 days.

I have talked to other that cut it 24 hours and it works great. I haven't tried it so I don't know personally.

Any other advice???

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RoNiN

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posted March 14, 2001 12:42 PM

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I agree with gearseeker , the reduction in water over the last few days is what I plan to do. I have never done it before so I don't what will happen but most BB's who have been successful have done it that way.

Other then that is sounds similar to my plans.

Drexx , are you using clomid and nova to help your look or just for side effects?

Also , how are you practicing your posing? Are you making any changes after going through pre-judging last year?


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gearseeker

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posted March 14, 2001 12:49 PM

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I forgot to mention:

Take the T3 so you are on the highest dose on your contest day. I usually go six weeks on T3 (I start T4 sooner, then switch six weeks out). If you are going up to 75mcg per day, dont taper down until after the contest. You will avoid any potential rebound this way. I do the same thing with the steroids Im using. No tapering until after the contest.

If you have competed before, and know what to expect with your water table, you may consider anadrol during the last week. It keeps the muscles full and your energy and attitude up. I used it last year and liked the way it filled me out. I was on nolvadex, winstrol, proviron to control water from estrogen and progesterone and aldactone for overall water loss. The anadrol did not make me puffy - just full.


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Pharm Animal

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posted March 14, 2001 01:42 PM

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OHHHHH BOY.....i'm gonna have to do a lot of posting under this thread....can't right now, i am at work!

i'll post when i get home. DREXX, if you need my assistance, e-mail me

PA


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DREXX

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posted March 14, 2001 03:03 PM

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"Drexx , are you using clomid and nova to help your look or just for side effects?"

I am using the high dose clomid and nolva for the look not the sides. If I could afford arimidex I would take that instead.

"Also , how are you practicing your posing? Are you making any changes after going through pre-judging last year?"

Last year I didn't practice posing enough and ended up finalising my posing routine the week before

On contest day between pre-judging and the evening show my legs hurt so much. I couldn't believe how hard it was to stay flexed for a full 15-30 min while you are being judged. I will put much more emphasis on that this year.

"Take the T3 so you are on the highest dose on your contest day"

You bring up an interesting point. I don't like taking T3 for longer than 4 weeks but I guess I could start it a week later and then taper for 2 weeks after the contest.

How does this look:

Week____T3 dose
1_______25mcg ed
2_______50mcg ed
3_______75mcg ed --- Contest
4_______50mcg ed
5_______25mcg ed

I will probably take 50mg of Anadrol for the last week if my buddy has some

PA: What is this supposed to mean?

"OHHHHH BOY.....i'm gonna have to do a lot of posting under this thread...."

Am I that far of base

Anyway can't wait for more info

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Pharm Animal

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posted March 14, 2001 03:13 PM

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T3:

don't take too much of this and do cardio at the same time. you'll turn into a beanpole!!! you need to find the right dosage for YOU, and it's different with everyone. the normal max dosage should be no more than 50 mcg a day. why go up to a maximum dosage and then go down after one week of maximum dosage? this is ridiculous, as the T3 will only perform for you optimally for one week. hit your correct dosage about 4 weeks prior to the show, and stay at that level until contest day. then taper it down starting from the day after the contest. for me, it was 25 mcg at the highest. trust me, you will lose too much muscle if you go over the optimal amount of this drug, no matter what gear you're cycling!

more to come.....

PA


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Pharm Animal

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posted March 14, 2001 03:25 PM

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get the clomid out of your cycle till after the show. this drug may make you retain water, and we don't want that. get some arimidex and use it with the nolvadex

PA


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DREXX

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posted March 14, 2001 03:26 PM

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PA:

I have used T3 @ 50mcg before for a 2 week short cycle and ended up losing 2% bodyfat and gaining 1.5lbs of LBM at the same time.

I know I liked 50mcg and I think 75mcg would be fine but I will keep an eye on it. That is why I am tappering up to see how things go. If I notice bad things I obviously wont keep upping the dose.

Keep the advice comming...

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Pharm Animal

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posted March 14, 2001 03:28 PM

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the last week as far as water is concerned....is very highly individualized. just keep working on improving your own way and eventually after enough practice (it took 8 shows of 'practice' for me) you'll have it down and should be able to stick to the same plan year after year with good results. just be sure you are lean enough first. if not, even the MOST PERFECT water depletion plan will not yield adequate results

PA


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Will B.Huge

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posted March 14, 2001 03:55 PM

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This is the mosst informative post I havd seen for a long time, thanx boys.


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Will B.Huge

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posted March 14, 2001 04:01 PM

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Drexx could you e-mail me I have some questions for you and I can't get through on
you posted address.
Will


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Will B.Huge

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posted March 14, 2001 04:09 PM

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I have never used T3 and Iam considering it for my next show, the only reason why I wouldn't is I know guys that have to always be on it and if not they are fat, is this avoidable.


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Pharm Animal

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posted March 14, 2001 06:23 PM

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will B....

i think your friends are just lazy

PA


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Will B.Huge

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posted March 14, 2001 08:08 PM

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I hope they are because I want to use it.


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DREXX

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posted March 15, 2001 08:55 AM

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bump

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DREXX

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posted March 15, 2001 11:59 AM

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PA: Why would clomid make me hold water?

I have never heard that or seen it's effects. For me it's the contrary when I add clomid to a Test cycle I lose water.

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Beezers

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posted March 15, 2001 12:18 PM

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I was wondering the same thing as clomid dries me out fairly well.


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