David Polumbo, I believe made mention to the need for cycles to extend for long periods of time. Growth after all is relative to the time in which we can continually maintain positive nitrogen balances within our system. The longer we remain in a state of continuous anabolism the more we grow up until our genetic set points.

Yet, I am all too familiar with the stagnation effect that can occur even with 8-week cycles. Hell, we have all been there at some point in our competitive lives.

I am planning on a contest prep of 16 weeks, I obviously want to win this particular show accordingly I want to allow sufficient time to prepare.

Now irrespective of dose, I was thinking a testosterone base throughout followed by deca/dball then equipose/clenbuterol.

If there is any constructive feedback please let me know.

PEACE

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i am all for the switching of gear every once in a while, but i find that the longer i'm on boldenone or stananzolol, the better my gains get. 10 weeks max for stanan. and boldenone does not need to be limited in usage length, especially during precontest dieting. you could run these for the length of the cycle without many problems.....you should be drinking a ton of water during the diet, so the kidneys and liver should be flushed out on a daily basis quite well.

"Growth after all is relative to the time in which we can continually maintain positive nitrogen balances within our system. The longer we remain in a state of continuous anabolism the more we grow up until our genetic set points."

right now, we're focused upon muscle maintenance, shape, and fullness....so this point is irrelevant here.

"Yet, I am all too familiar with the stagnation effect that can occur even with 8-week cycles. Hell, we have all been there at some point in our competitive lives."

true, but stagnation is not really an effect you encounter during a precontest cycle. the muscles shouldn't (can't) be growing anyways. this point is relevant more in mass gain cycles.

"I am planning on a contest prep of 16 weeks, I obviously want to win this particular show accordingly I want to allow sufficient time to prepare."

in precontest conditions, time is more critical than any other factor. this is a good move. i have noticed from my own precontest periods and those i train for shows, that slower fat reduction leads to better muscle retention on show day.

"Now irrespective of dose, I was thinking a testosterone base throughout followed by deca/dball then equipose/clenbuterol."

well, if the diet is foundationally solid, any stack should work, to a certain point before the show. i like the d-bol, as it will maintain muscle fullness during calorie deficits. at 6 weeks out, i would switch to nothing but winny, fina, eq, and arimidex. winny/fina is an excellent precontest stack, and EQ will give you some nice added fullness and pumps. arimidex is thrown in there for obvious reasons. if you can, you should experiment with RU486 during your deca administration and plan on using it accordingly during the last 2 weeks of prep. nolvadex during the last 2 weeks would be a wise choice also.

PS....these ideas are track-proven on my part, except for the RU486 idea. it's just that, an idea. post your diet, T_S....i'm interested in what it looks like

good luck bro....i hope you win

PA

i'm shocked that i had to dig this post out of page two. there have been too many wasted-space posts today.

QUIT POSTING JUNK!!!

Also, you made mention of deca/dbol...then on to EQ and clen....Why the Deca??? For the price, and the lesser of side effects (estrogenic with EQ, and Progest. with the Deca), would you consider running the EQ for both...???

I think, for long cycles, whether good or bad, and one such as yours would be better at splitting them up into 3 cycles...i.e.

4 week bulking cycle with higher Androgenic compounds...Begin to clean diet a little

2 weeks clean

4 weeks bulking with compounds with higher Anabolic effects, and begin cleaning diet up...

1 week clean

5 to 6 weeks of low water retentive drugs...EQ, Primo, Anavar, Tren, Winny all spring to mind....I prefer EQ, Winny, and Tren for a combo of course...along with T3 and/or Clen(ECY if it works better for you).

Now, before all the why's and the bullshits I plan on encountering....remember, this is my opinion....I feel to keep the body in constant Anabolism, you must continually change, not so much the drugs of choice(though it is VERY important). The diet, training, rest, and routines are the key factor during each phase....as you progress down each cycle, the diet becomes a little cleaner each step....

By doing this, the body becomes accustomed to the slight reduction in carbs, and cal's as you progress...energy stays at a constant peak, and the reduction of LBM should be held to a minimum....everybody is different....somewhere in all this....you have to find the cycle(s) that work best for you, and what you need to reach sight specific goals.....

bruzer....1 week off and 2 weeks off in there will not do anything but allow one to lose muscle. there's no hope in restoring your HPTA after a cycle in less than 4 weeks. give some more reasoning on why you suggest those 2 breaks. maybe i'm just not seeing something here.

But everyone is different.