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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1121 |
Here is the situation, it's my b-day tommorrow and my buddies are gonna want to get me drunk..I'm on my 5th week of a cycle and it's going great, using 17aa's so I refuse to drink. I tried "E" once before and had the time of my life..if I use "E" then my buds won't be shoving beers down my throat..but some people lose lots of weight after using "E" and I'm not really willing to give any of the gains I've made..thanks in advance for your replies..sorry about my ignorance on this, but I'm not really into rec drugs (unless you consider herb to be a drug).     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 95 |
get yourself some g | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 56 |
it depends on what you do while you are on the e. when i took e i danced for like eight hours and hardly drunk any water and didnt eat a thing. i lost about six pounds. but then again i put it on in about two days. mostly water i guess. just pop a pill and chill and you will be ight. drink some redbull and if you can eat then super. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 66 |
im a juicer and a raver so i know the deals on E. E is totally bad for your liver bro, 6 beers are even better than 1 pop of E. I would suggest just doing some mushrooms and some weed for your b-day, but if you are gonna drink or pop, take milk thistle, and 1 glass of water per 1 beer. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 95 |
i lift with a guy on occasion who parties on e and k sat night from 8PM to 6AM and loses 15 lbs and looks like SHIT the next day. then he pigs out all week, lifts like mad only to do it all over again. I DON'T GET IT. | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 21 |
e is definately more intense when you are on your cycle. I felt like a primal animal and I wanted to break the neck of anyone who came near to me. You get really pumped up too. Drinking will dehydrate you also. I would go with the E if you dont have any G. Or maybe an OXY. Drinking a little here and there isnt so bad, but on your birthday, your buddies are going to be buying shot after shot and you will be getting wrecked. Do the E... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 102 |
DUDE LISTEN TO ME K WONT MAKE U LOSE WEIGHT IT JUST DOSENT DO THAT.I NO FOR A FACT,IT DEHYDRATES YOU BUT U PUT THE WEIGHT RIGHT BACK ON.E IS ALSO A GREAT THING,THAT ALSO DEHYDRATES YOU BUT IF YOU ONLY DO IT FOR YOUR B DAY THEN YOULL BE FINE. JUST DRINK LOTS OF WATER AND DONT WORRY.I GOT A FRIEND WHO LIVES ON E AND JUICES AND HES FINE | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1121 |
Thanks for the interesting replies bros..I haven't made up my mind yet, I don't even know what K or OXY are?? I don't have access to much only E or weed..I'm not one to really live on the edge when it comes to rec drugs (cycles are another story) so I'm not really looking to try anything new.leaning towards a stack of 1 E, 1 J, and lotsa h20 tommorrow night. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 36 |
all of u shut the fuck up with your misinformation. e is bad for you. its neurotoxic(brain-poison) and is defintely bad for your body, much worse than alcohol. take the guys advise and do shrooms and smoke some j's, a guarantee you you'll have a great time. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 24 |
i used to do E all the time. all you gotta do is keep hydrated and your cool. the next day your apetite might not be as big but nothing to worry about. its better than drinking, especially on juice. TRUST ME!!! vinnie | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 21 |
No one can say anything unless youve done E. I used to do E all the time and I didnt lose much weight. Last week was my first time doing it in more than a yearand it felt great until morning came and my fifth pill was wearing off. I lost no weight, but I couldnt work out or eat the whole day. If its a one time thing then have fun. Happy b-day and remember to drink H2O | ||
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Olympian 
Posts: 1907 |
I do e once a month. I go out 1 friday and do it right. I hate alcohol and the way it makes me feel. I'll drop 2 or 3 pills and a cap of g every hour and its all good. I am big on moderation. If this is a once in a while thing, e and some g will be fine. If your worried about your liver, take some milk thistle at the begginning of the night and in the morning. Drink lots of water! ------------------ "Catch a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he eats for a lifetime." | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 163 |
In my opinion, I think you would be better off sticking to alchohol if you have to get fucked up. Losing weight is the last thing you should be worried about when using E. Yes, some people say that it's OK and it doesn't affect them in any bad way. That's bullshit. They are either in denial, or they just don't know what it feels like to feel normal. Here are a few reasons not to use E especially if you are using gear: 1)E causes your blood pressure to shoot up to unsafe levels. This can be even worse when your using gear because it can cause a rise in blood pressure also. 2)E is known for depleting seratonin (what makes you feel happy) in your brain. I don't think you want to go around feeling depressed all the time after using E. Besides, if you combine the depression caused by E with the depression of coming off of a cycle... YOU WILL FEEL LIKE SHIT, and may eventually need anti-depressants. 3)It will cause a decrease in your appetite, sometimes for a couple of days, which of course causes weight loss. It does run water out of your system, but there are other ways to do that too. 4)Ask yourself if doing E is really worth it. I know it's about as much fun as you can possible have in about 8 hours (if you have enough), but is that fun for 8 hours really worth feeling like shit for about 5 days later? Not only will you feel like shit, but your workouts will suck, sometimes it makes your mind not function right, and some other bullshit. You don't have to be a chronic user of E to experience the downside to it. Just like with anything else, some people experience more side effects than others. When it comes down to it, you have to make your own decisions. Not your friends. Do what ever you want to do, but I hope this info is of use to you in making your decision. Good luck and Happy Birthday [This message has been edited by stretch (edited March 12, 2001).] | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 24 |
Hey lawnsaver, easy on the G bro. that shits hairy!!! lost a friend on that. vinnie | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 347 |
Ive been doing E for about 6 years. E is short AND street term for the chemical compound MDMA. MDMA is liver toxic, to which degree I am not certain. I never had any problems with E and gear. Just remember to drink lots of water. I take PROZAC after my E. Studies have indicated that PROZAC taken with 6 hours of injestion has been shown to eliminate neurotoxicity substantially. I also take 5-htp which is shown to increase your serotonin levels after the use of E. And yes, take your milk thysle, I recommended the GNC CLEANSING FORMULA. Have fun, and dont get obsessed. Take care. ps.. make sure your E is real E. It's estimated that only 34 percent of E is real on the market. You can get test kits at www.dancesafe.com make sure you eat something the next day.. ------------------ MustangRacer27 [This message has been edited by MUSTANGRACER27 (edited March 12, 2001).] [This message has been edited by MUSTANGRACER27 (edited March 12, 2001).] | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 15 |
I've had my fair share of experiences with X before I started juice and I've done it a couple of times while on. Definately go to GNC and invest in the vitamin 5htp if you plan on rollin' more than once. The key is to drink plenty of water (even when your not that thirsty) and try to keep the amount of X in reason, don't eat like 10 tabs. The next couple of days are the most important drink more water than usual and even if you're not hungry eat your three main meals. If you do all that there should be no problem at all with weight loss. | ||
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Olympian
Posts: 1907 |
quote: I'm sorry for you lose, I truely am. No offense, but who are you to tell me to take it easy. Do you tell the people who take 2 grams of test a week to take it easy. I take it you havent seen many of my posts, but moderation is my motto. I know about all the the dos and donts. It people who dont respect g that are dead. You have to watch out what you mix with it, etc. There are many aspect that most people are unaware of. Where I live is probably the place where it is used the most. Its been around me a long time. In moderation and with the respect you need to have, it by far the best thing out there ------------------ "Catch a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he eats for a lifetime." | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 125 |
Bro, I'm sorry about your friend but there is no way he died just because of G. What did he mix it with? [This message has been edited by DieHuge (edited March 12, 2001).] | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 22 |
I have quite a bit of experience with E. Used to do it quite a bit in college. It was always my drug of choice. Although, really think that I did damage to myself fooling with that s#!t. I think I'm not alone, but a lot of people are afraid to admit they are dumber because of it. I used to have an almost photographic memory, until I got too deep into X. I would only do it 1 or two times a week at very most. Generally, less. I didn't tell that I had any side effects until after I hadn't rolled in a few months: memory loss, concentration, disturbed vision. I can't prove that E had anything to do with it, but I really believe it did. It is the only drug I ever really regret doing. If by chance anyone has some miracle cure for any long term E side effects I would really like to hear them. BTW I haven't rolled in 7-8 months and I'm 23. Just my $.02 | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 833 |
Bro, just say you are poping E and eat a d-bol its not like they are going to know the difference! Just think of health and training first! Mass Monster | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 233 |
The problem is that we really don't know for sure what the long term effects are.They are just starting human clinical trials now.So far we know MDMA does TEMPORARY axon damage-Studies with rats show that they repair themselves after you stop.Prozac or Zoloft will prevent most of the neuro damage. J thank God nobody said that E contains H!! If so sick of hearing that BS | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 717 |
say no to drugs. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 21 |
this guy doesnt do drugs...It is not like he is going to need more then 1 pill to be fucked up the whole night. I find it hard to hear people who are doing so many anabolic steroids telling someone that 1 X pill is going to hurt them. I discontinued regular use of X about a year ago when I was experiencing loss of mental capacity. Since then I have decided to do it only once a year. I would not recommend anyone to do more then 1 pill more then once a year. Have a happy B-day which ever poision you choose..... | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 968 |
I wouldn't touch E with a ten foot pole. I don't give a shit that everyone else is doing it or says that it isn't that bad for them. Yeah right. I've heard more bad things about it then good. Plus you never know what the fuck your getting. Why would you take a pill from someone you barely know not knowing what the hell is in the damn thing? Plus on top of it EVERYONE that I have ever seen on E looks like a damn fool. A girl where I work does E every weekend and looks like shit all week long. Then she repeats the cycle. I can't believe I'm saying this but if you have to do any drugs I'd stick with alcohol, marijuana, or GHB... ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 16 |
man,e is BAD for you. I used to do it all the time. When i would go to the gym the next day or even days after i would feel like passing out cause i was depleated of vitamins and water (corse i abused the hell out of the drug)i would just have a beer, but if your gona do it,take vitamins and lots of water.and dont make it a habit.bb and e heads dont mix | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 453 |
Even though it is not the best drug, it will not be that bad if you only use one. ------------------ Great Information on Injections and Syringes | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 24 |
yes guys!!! my friend did die from 'G'. i dont understand why thats so fucking hard to believe. yes he did too much but its not hard to do when your already fucked up. funny how you all think you know so much about everything. i was addicted to E, special K and X. its bad for you but you guys cant sit here and say dont do drugs. what the fuck do you think juice is?? vitamins? this is funny shit!!! vinnie | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 36 |
quote: e and x? wtf are u talking about? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 215 |
Bro, OK Pure mdma is slightly liver toxic but no worse than the dbol you are doing. But chances are your not getting pure MDMA and your pill is cut with all sorts of shit. When you pop a pill the main problem is the strain on your kidneys the strain on the liver is not the great as you dont have to filter much of the shit out and the main receptors are in your head that the pill effects. If you are going to pop a pill i would drink half a pint of water every hour and take a milk thistle pill every hour for 4 hours and one when you wake up also get some cranberry extract this will help your kidneys also drink a pint of cranberry juice before you pop your pill. But the guy who said that poppin one pill is as bad as drinking 6 pints is wrong (No flames intended) Your liver has to work really hard to filter out 6 pints of beer and your kidneys also have to work quite hard because of the volume of liquid you have to break down. Compare this to a half a gramme pill and the effect is has on your body and i would rather drop a pill over 6 pints. Also if you drink while on AA-17's your gonna fucking hurt the next day you will fell a little off from the pill and its a bad idea to do any thing but the beer will make you very ill and could result in liver damage. My advice get some ghb if you wanna do anything when you are on. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 438 |
E: ONE OF THE FEW DRUGS OUT THERE PROVEN TO CAUSE MAJOR BRAIN DAMAGE. TRIED IT - NOT WORTH THE BRAIN LOSS. DRINK A GUINESS AND GET LAID, BRO. F*CK E, A BJ IS ALL THE RUSH I NEED :-) ------------------ IF YOU HAD ONE WISH, WHAT WOULD IT BE? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1340 |
For those that didn't read it the other week. Discussion on GHB with a true life story from a well known UK guru, Mick Hart that got addicted to it. https://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Archives/Forum1/03-2001/053901.html | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 22 |
Nice new pic Big Johnson. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1121 |
Statechamp..I'm shocked that you would condone this..yes, 1 tab would be plenty for me and my source for it is reliable BUT what M1KAI said is most relavant to me as I'm on a 17aa (winny) but I'm also on fina so it's maryjane for me tonight..thanks for all the input, there were many interesting responses. | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 2480 |
Knowledgable "E" users... I didnt know such a person existed  Just my opinion though------------------ E2's Steroid Pictures Pictures of many different drugs. AJC' Steroid Profiles Profiles of many different steroids 2Thick's Injection Procedures Site Complete with Pictures and Diagrams! Finaplix by Mr H A complete guide to Fina | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 968 |
I always end up defending GHB. To the person whose friend was "allegedly" killed by GHB use: Absolutely Impossible. He must have mixed it with some other chemical. I will explain why: GHB breaks down to water(H2O) and carbon dioxide(CO2), the only way he coul kill himself is is he took roughly 150grams of GHB at once. The carbon dioxide from that GHB amount would make the cells in the body go Hypoxic and your brain would be starved of oxygen. You would then fall into a coma, and eventually if you don't get help die. Did he take 150g GHB? If the answer is no then your buddy took something else with the GHB. Godspeed | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 233 |
There seems to be a large amount of people who THINK they know about club drugs but they really don't! 1 MDMA pill will NOT cause any brain damage or other serious long term effects.One of the big problems is getting real MDMA-Buy a test kit($25) and it will tell you what is in your pill(MDMA,speed,DXM,PMA etc.) X has been around since 1916? and was developed by Merck as a weight loss drug.This isn't anything new-just popular at the moment. X and K are NOT addtictive!! Maybe mentally but not physically! Its nearly impossible to die from E by itself.Almost every case in the world involves other drug combos.The people on this board are smart enough to ignore the BS in the media about steroids-but NOT any other drug??Come on!! The fucking cops don't even care about X-All the BS is because of the money being made from X and the fact that the agencys are not in on it-like coke where cops get paid EVERY day to look the other way.I was arrested for MDMA and the agents joked about how they didn't think it was bad at all-they just wanted $$!! Its possible to die from G in a dose under 100gms.Very rare but possible.Your buddy must have taken enough to shut down his respitory system-most commen when mixed with booze or valiums,xanax,etc. J | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 148 |
To correct some fuck that posted dancesafe.com, the correct adress: http://www.dancesafe.org Also, be sure to test it! You don't wanna end up with PMA or some other shit! Be sure it's MDMA! How? test it! Also I would recommend going to http://www.bluelight.nu | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1479 |
SmackDown quote: agreed, unless the situation will involve extensive dancing babyfaced monster quote: Liver toxicity of one e pill is insignifigant compared to the damage caused by the majority of the bodybuilder pharmacopoeia phenethylamine quote: you're an idiot lawnsaver quote: milk thistle is not a magic liver elixer MUSTANGRACER27 quote: good advice strengthmonster quote: do anything all day every day and you will run into problems. the only physical addiction potential with ghb occurs when someone takes it perpetually. Then the dopamine build up becomes severe, and when GHB administration stops, the brain is literally flooded. The_Iron_Game quote: at least you admit your prejudices. Fonz quote: not completely accurate. Prolonged use can cause death during withdrawal | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 968 |
quote: [b]agreed, unless the situation will involve extensive dancing babyfaced monster quote: Liver toxicity of one e pill is insignifigant compared to the damage caused by the majority of the bodybuilder pharmacopoeia phenethylamine quote: you're an idiot lawnsaver quote: milk thistle is not a magic liver elixer MUSTANGRACER27 [QUOTE]I never had any problems with E and gear. Just remember to drink lots of water. I take PROZAC a Please explain your statement PUC regarding my quote as I'm unfamiliar with your conclusion. Godspeed | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 81 |
E is defenitely bad for you. E will cause dehydration, exhaustion, and loss of appetite. In all my experiences with it(close to 60) I have felt like absolute shit the next day. I started taking just one when I would go out and then I turned into a feind. I just recently stopped taking them all together and if I had it to do over again I would have never popped the f***ing pill. Yeah they are ALOT of fun but not worth what they do to your body and what they make you feel like for the next several days. Especially where you are in your cycle now, you should be getting the most gains. Smoke some weed if you have to do something. Weed will stimulate your appetite and make you sleep like a baby rather than getting close to no sleep and feeling dehydrated, not hungry, and basically like shit the next three days. I wouldn't f**k with E if I were you. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 171 |
you have to be very carefull while on E... when doing E, i�m more concern with damage to the brain than to the body. What E will do on your body is make it dance a lot... normaly when i do e i try not to dance all night, just float man. Drink water, but not too much. U can take 5-htp to enhance the effects(before) and after to help u come down smoother. If u can take ssri�s (speling. ie prozac, paxil or something like that to avoid the neurotoxic effects of E). Take vitamins when u get back (especially C) If your goin to take tyrosine take it after not before. In my experience (not proud) to be loaded with water from creatine is gonna help u not get that much dhydratation. Don�t overdo it... no afterhours and no shit when your trip ends don�t take more pills won�t do anything at all. I personally smoke hash while on E so i don�t dance vaery intensly. If youre on gear what will happen to your body is that it won�t be gaining wait during some days.... it while go from anabolic, to catabolic and back to anablic again. enjoy forgot to rwright about it... E is ok ------------------ [This message has been edited by nbk (edited March 13, 2001).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 91 |
Knowledgable "E" users..please reply Anybody who uses "E" is not knowledgable. It will permanenty alter your brain chemicals and brain neural receptor sensitivity, can cause panic disorder, depression, paranoia, etc long AFTER use. Make sure to post when u r too nervous to leave your house, are crying all day and think that someone is trying to kill you! | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 17 |
Don't do it. Why reduce the effects of your cycle, just for a little partying. Three beers isn't going to hurt you though. | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2934 |
quote: You are funny shit. It's YOUR kind of brainwashed moronic thinking that keeps steroids c-iii. I don't really have time right now to list the numerous reasons why AAS should not be considered similar to meth, morphine, and the other drugs it's classified with. Fuck you. |
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posted March 12, 2001 08:38 PM
