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harpoon

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posted March 12, 2001 05:26 PM

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i finished my first cycle of test enanthate (only one bottle-10ml) six weeks. how long should i wait to do my next cycle? 6 weeks? or is that a little too long?
i'm going to do test @500 for 8 wks and eq for 10 wks @300
thanks bros


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beefmaster

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posted March 12, 2001 05:33 PM

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The rule is same time off as you were on, but if your like me you have trouble waiting that long...


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ultragainz

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posted March 12, 2001 06:49 PM

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just say you did a 12 week cycle and dont what to take a lot of time off i say 6 weeks...no lower then 4 weeks.......later

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Adonis

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posted March 12, 2001 06:51 PM

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I use the rule of thumb time on will equal time off


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quadster29

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posted March 12, 2001 06:57 PM

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go grt big 4 weeks off the hit sust at 750mgs per week and 400deca for6


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quenepo

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posted March 12, 2001 07:37 PM

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I prefer the equal time too,or until I get the money.

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Hoss

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posted March 12, 2001 07:43 PM

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Time off?....TeHe

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ironbarbarian

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posted March 12, 2001 07:44 PM

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NO, NO, NO,, you guys are not playing safe, if your gonna juice for a long time you better take at least 1.5 the time you were on... that is, if you had an 8 week cycle, wait 12 weeks before starting another one. remember health is #1..
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Checkmatebloated

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posted March 12, 2001 07:46 PM

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My first 2 years I did not take off. I just used eq to bridge and then the next time i would us primobolan to bridge and back and forth. I would not recommened that. If you get a blood test done often enough you will know when everything is back to normaly and you can go hard again. Other wise just wait about 6 weeks.


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Mikey

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posted March 12, 2001 08:25 PM

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Time on = Time off
Unless you want to bridge.


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vinnie

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posted March 12, 2001 10:36 PM

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DONT BRIDGE BRO!!!
take min 4 weeks off for any cycle under 10 weeks. it is best to take same time off as on. DONT BRIDGE!
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harpoon

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posted March 13, 2001 07:12 PM

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how is bridging different from still juicing? time off is time "off"

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unAbomber

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posted March 13, 2001 07:39 PM

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Ok bros, just intrested what you count to your on time.

- Period that theres actually test/other substances active in your body. (fex. 8 weeks of sust is actually 11week on test)

or...

- Period of time that youre injecting them to your body.

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gettingdiesel

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posted March 13, 2001 09:11 PM

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Your first six weeks were very mild. Don't worry so much take a few weeks off if you can, but hit it hard the next time. These first few are critical.


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solidspine

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posted March 13, 2001 11:44 PM

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Hi, I'm doing a mini cycle right now with test ethanate, second week and I will finish the week at about 700mg. Since you only did approximately 200mg per week. A 6 week time off is plenty. Four questions 1) how were your gains 2) did you take nolvadex and 3) are you going to use hcg? 4) any side affects

Solidspine


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pittbull2

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posted March 14, 2001 12:17 AM

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I do atleast equal time .No bridging this time cholesterol is up so longer until the numbers are right.


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Stew Meat

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posted March 14, 2001 12:42 AM

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As a general rule, it is time on = time off. Though it would be dependant on what gear you had used and what you were going to use next cycle. You want to give your natural glands time to recouperate and begin to restore the natural hormonal axis in order to keep them from atrophy and eventualy cease to function as efficiently as before. If you supressed your pituatary's LHRH for long enough, it may take longer to recover. Your body will also build up a tolerance, an efficancy at metabolising, the exogenous hormones. You need to make sure that the liver has time to lower its metabolic tendencies otherwise, you would have to use much higer doses to get the same effect.
To optimise your next cycle, you may want to choose gear that A. wouldn't suppress your LH/LHRH (your natural hormone production) so that your hormonal axis can recouperate while you still see anabolic benefits from a cycle. Primobolan and Anavar would be excellent choices, and along with Clen, ECA, and perhaps PGF2a, could substitute as an excellent follup cycle allowing you to shed some of the fat that accumilated from the former cycle and still be able to add more lean mass. A. would need less time off and possibly even no time (considering you employ clomid and HCG therapy).

B. you could use AS that would react with androgen receptors via different enzymatic pathways. Different enzymes are used not only to metabolise different meds, but to enable the steroid to reach its substrate level so that it may bind to the androgen receptor.
All androgens are not equal, but all bind to the same receptor.

In truth, the metabolic process a.k.a. the tolerance effect, can have more of an influence on the effects of the cycle and duration of off-time and would have almost nothing to do with receptors. In fact, you will actually GAIN receptors for the anabolic steroids as you inject them. These gains take time to occur and are more time dependant than dose dependent. Receptors will not downregulate meaning the binding affinity does not deminsh due to the addition of exogenous hormone.


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