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 Why I'm now against 17aa Steroids
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 475 |
I was reading something on the internet that has changed my mind regarding 17aa steroids. I really can't put my finger on it, but I don't plan on using 17aa anymore. I don't know if you boys are like me, but I plan on being in the steroid game for quite some time. And long term use of 17aa's are really bad for you... So from now on, if I talk about anything but Test, or the other weaker anabolic injectables, tell me to shut up and remind me that I'm not doing those anymore    | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 879 |
quote: I would be really interested to hear your rationale behind your decision. Godspeed  | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 2537 |
me too.. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 295 |
Can you post that link on here so we all can check it out? ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 948 |
I can understand where your coming from, first pass roids are more toxic, but I don't feel that using d-bol twice a year is going to hurt you. I would agree though that when I hear a newbie saying they only want to use orals and they want to stack androl and d-bol with winny I chringe. Personally I use d-bol twice a year, no more than 6 weeks at the extreme most. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 331 |
Man child ,We would like to hear more. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1000 |
yes, our ears are open bro. we'd like to know what made to conclude to this! -MiKe001- ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 342 |
Im never doing steriods again, =( well maybe some dbol
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Freak
Posts: 2077 |
Come on, bro'... You can't say, "Hey, I read this thing, ON THE INTERNET, and now I'm never...blah, blah!!" Post a link, post the article, etc. I've seen websites saying eating meat will kill you, that Elvis is alive...extreme examples and I'm not trying to flame/insult, but at least let us take a look for ourselves!! ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 462 |
i understand what the man child is trying to say. 17aa are toxic to the liver and they have been related to livercancer. i think only this should be enough to not ever touch one. now don't start saying just a few weeks, just a few times, it won't hurt for a little while bla bla bla...Test is the king! not toxic to the liver, great gains. and primo,eq and masteron are some fantastic shit, not 17aa. So why bother, why take an extra risk with something that is toxic by itself. maybe if 17 aa were the only option.. but they're not, and not even better.aren't own test suppression, gyno, cholesterol,hair loss ect enough risky?oh you got to hurry, you need to bloat in a couple of weeks with d-bol or a-boms?start 2 weeks earlyer! or add some propionate to jumpstart. i don't understand the use of 17 aa drugs and never will. just my 0.2 | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 879 |
quote: Sorry, Incorrect. Only Anadrol has been linked with Cancer. Godspeed | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 475 |
Well its like what I just said. Because of the sport I play (football), MY lifestyle cannot handle me taking 17aa steroids. If my career goes the way it is panning out, I'll be using gear for the next 15-20 years. I don't care how safe we make it; ie: Arimidex, Nolva, Clomid etc...20 years of using 17aa will get the better of you. Test is the most beneficial hormone in the Male body for performance enhancement. It can be takin over the "long haul" of my life and eventually as Testosterone replacement, once my playing days are over. From my personal experience, Test is by far and away the ultimate in sports performace enhancement. All of the other drugs don't even come close to the power of Test. Now don't get me wrong, I think you should use other things besides Test; ie: EQ, Primo, Deca etc... But to some things up, is it really worth taking harsh drugs for extended periods of time (years) when the meat and potatoes is right infront of us?? BTW: I can't find the link right now, but I'm working on it... | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 43 |
I'm assuming Sustanon is one of the safer ones out there, am I correct? No 17aa? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 879 |
quote: Are you joking or are you serious? Godspeed | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1297 |
Can I just add that Anadrol is the only steroid that has been scientificly linked to Cancer but this was on a study of long term high dosage users being treated for AIDS. In a bodybuilders arsenal I believe they can be used safely in moderation. 4 weeks tops at 100mg max. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 879 |
quote: 4 weeks tops...come on strengthmonster. Who has heard of a 4-week winny cycle.LOL or Anavar cycle for that matter. Godspeed | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1297 |
Not 4 weeks on winny or dbol, 4 weeks on anadrol. Dbol is usually fairly safe on the liver for 12-16 weeks, winny even longer. With anadrol it is best to use it for 4 weeks as part of an eight week bulking cycle with test. 1st four weeks on a-bombs to bulk and add water then switching tests for the final four to harden. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 462 |
you 're wrong. long period use of all 17 aa drugs has been related to liver cancer, with oxymetholone number 1. anyway you 're not answering: why use a toxic drug when you have other options wich are safer and better? http://www.hsc.virginia.edu/medicine/basic-sci/pharm/dab/_lab/docs/course/pdf/androgen.pdf | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 43 |
quote: Are you joking or are you serious? Actually, I'm serious. I'm a newbie, just humor me. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1297 |
Fair enough Fener, there may have been further studies done since I got that information. Why take them? probably because they promote greater gains in most cases. Couldn't get your link to work though. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 462 |
sorry guys in the link there is no / after the word dab | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 476 |
I LOVE D-BOL.  | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 879 |
quote: If you're a newbie, sorry about that it was a bit rude. Sustanon is NOT 17-aa. The most widely used 17-aa's are: 1. oxymetholone(anadrol) 2. Anavar(Oxandrolone) 3. Stanozolol(winstrol) 4. Methandrostenelone(Dianabol) 5. Halotestin 6. Methyltestosterone Hope this helps... Godspeed | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 43 |
Fonz, thanks for the reply. But I thought Oxandrolone is the safest gear? | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2410 |
quote: It is safe in that it will not shut down natural test production and is a great overall steroid. But it is still aa17 and still has the possibility of damaging the liver. Peace ------------------ E2's Steroid Pictures Pictures of many different drugs. AJC' Steroid Profiles Profiles of many different steroids 2Thick's Injection Procedures Site Complete with Pictures and Diagrams! Finaplix by Mr H A complete guide to Fina |
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posted March 12, 2001 01:05 PM
