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cman

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posted March 12, 2001 06:56 AM

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Does anyone know why I may of almost, I'll say basically died off of this stack. I started out taking 1cc of winstrol e.o.d.,then 20 days in I started with fina, I administered a 1cc shot, and let me tell you I experienced many problems, not even half an hour later, my heartbeat was up and was having trouble breathing, but nothing serious at the time. I must have been to the bathroom 30 times in a 2 hour span, I had severe breathing problems, gasping for breathe, and even almost passed out, along with chest pains. After my first shot things got better, no problems, until I started with 2cc e.o.d., I started to experience kidney? problems, all I know is I could hardly stand up because the pain in my sides was brutal, work became an adventure every day I was there, one day my nuts swelled to double their size, and the pain was immense. My brother also took fina alone and was fine until 2cc shot, he had no breathing problems but said his sides/lower back area killed, so he stopped taking it. Also my friend took it, no problems other than lumps on his ass from injections, actually all 3 of us experienced that. We all had dime sized lumps, which would go away a couple days later. Can someone tell me if maybe I had an allergic reaction to the substance? This was my second cycle- first was 20 amp of Omnadren- in which I saw great results 30lb gain. This cycle did not produce great results- I personally have always been able to get cut pretty good, due to im a boxer, and also run 20 miles a week, with diet and use of ephedrine, I experienced basically the same results as fina/winny stack. Fina - do not use unless you want problems. Winny - does nothing for me


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TrueCowboy

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posted March 12, 2001 07:21 AM

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I am currently on test cyp. Am going to start fina in a couple of days. I like like to here some feedback on this one too.


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Cornholio

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posted March 12, 2001 08:58 AM

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Was this a kit, or Manufactured Fina??


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zarathustra

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posted March 12, 2001 09:39 AM

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I have experienced the same symptoms to a lesser degreee (breathing problems for a very short while, increased heart rate). This didn't happen untill wk 3 of a fina only cycle when I decided to change from a 75mg eod. schedule to 75mg ed. I thought maybe I had injected into a vein, which confused me since I apirated and got no blood.


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cman

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posted March 12, 2001 10:12 AM

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I do not know if it was a kit or manufactured? I got it from some pharmacist guy a friend of my girlfriend knew. Probably manufactured.


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e-man

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posted March 12, 2001 11:03 AM

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I did a Fian/Winny cycle last year and it was great, no problems.
Are you sure the stuff is good?? There is a lot of fake shit going around??
Which Fina did you do??


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cman

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posted March 12, 2001 01:42 PM

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It could have been fake. I don't know. The pharmacist made it himself(could have been kit then, I guess). With the side effects I experienced- kidney problems, ball shrinkage, and aggression, must have been real, but maybe a bad job making it?


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growin'

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posted March 12, 2001 01:52 PM

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Used Fina on all 3 cycles of mine. Done75-150mg EOD. I had a similar problem during this cycle. My roommate is a nurse, and she does my ass shots. She stuck the needle in and about hald way I had a really sharp pain. She continued to push it all the way in, and then aspirated. No blood came out. After about 10 seconds of her injecting, I tasted the Fina in my mouth, had trouble breathing, and heart was racing. Scared the shit out of me. She said if I had a brown mark, it meant she probably went through a vein. Next day I had a big ole' brown mark on my ass. I suspect some of the juice(100mg Prop & 75mg Fina)made its way into my bloodstream. But I was fine about an hour after the whole incident, wouldn't recommend it though. I'm giving myself my own shots, back to delts and quads baby, I just do it in 2 shots instead of 1.

Later


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b fold the truth

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posted March 12, 2001 02:39 PM

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Hit your bloodstream. Just a thought.

B True


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Big Johnson

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posted March 12, 2001 02:53 PM

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BUMP FOR H OR HUCK

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IF YOU HAD ONE WISH, WHAT WOULD IT BE?


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hayesjones

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posted March 12, 2001 04:44 PM

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you probably answered your own question. If you didnt control the process of making it then who ever did was careless. Consider this: When you are making something for your self, are you going to be extremely careful? YES. If someone else is making it they are not as concerned.

Was the area you injected inflammed, red and was the skin around that area real tight?
did you feel fatigued for a few days, dizzy and get the chills?
If so, you got a bacterial infection commonly known as cellulitis.
DO a search on the web and see what you bring up. Next thing is go home and take that bottle and put in the oven at 200degrees for 20 minutes and then let it cool. Do this 3 times to kill the bacteria.
later


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40butpumpin

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posted March 12, 2001 05:37 PM

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Dude, if your body reacts negatively when you're exposed to something (anything), then you shouldn't do it. You're injecting something into your body and you have no idea what is in it. I mean impurity-wise. Come on man, if you're having trouble breathing and chest and kidney pains, DON'T do it anymore.


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marky

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posted March 12, 2001 11:02 PM

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Fina is some potentsh*t. I tried it the first time this year for 8 weeks with
test. I felt like a newbie experiencing his first "kick in" excitement as the combo rocked me! The shots of Fina began to botherme at the 4th week when I went up to
150mgeod. Dizziness, nausea, heat flashes,
kidney soreness. But I loved the results. Next time will add winny as in the latter part of the cycle gyno dropped in! Finished the cycle with winny alone and gyno reduced.


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cman

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posted March 13, 2001 12:51 AM

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Your absolutely right. I should have stopped. I wasn't seeing results so I upped it to a probably unsafe 2cc dosage e.o.d. with 1cc of winny between. Once kidneys hurt
I did taper the dosage down, and didn't even finish the bottle. Your right who really knows what you inject into yourself, anytime you administer injectables. I just hope it wasn't anything serious, the profession im getting into requires blood tests,etc. I've been off that cycle for about 5 months now, with no problems.


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