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Big_Daddy_Budda

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posted March 11, 2001 06:10 PM

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About 12 months ago I downloaded some stuff of the net on how to make ghb. I lost it though, and since then I can't find anywhere that tells you how to make it. Anyone know of an good sites that do this?

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Big_Daddy_Budda

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posted March 11, 2001 06:25 PM

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C'mon guys, someone must know where I can get this info.


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posted March 11, 2001 06:26 PM

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I would like to know this too.


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posted March 11, 2001 06:34 PM

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I know

But not sure if I should say.
Very dangerous in the wrong hands.

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Big_Daddy_Budda

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posted March 11, 2001 06:37 PM

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Well, my email is [email protected]. I would be immensely grateful if u could help me. I've been taking this stuff for years.


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Fonz

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posted March 11, 2001 06:41 PM

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Go to www.GHB.org Great site for GHB info.

Godspeed


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Yeah I'm aggreeing with steel on this one, in the wrong hands could be very fatal. Just email him the info. Or ask him a couple of questions about it to see if he knows what he is doing or talking about.

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Big_Daddy_Budda

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Look bros, what do you want me to say. Do I use it regularly? Yes. Am I careful? Yes. Do I know what I'm doing? Yes. I don't use it for recreational use, just sleeping and sex with my lovely girlfriend. I'm tired of spending my hard earned money on this as the price has risen dramatically the last 6 months. I'm not an idiot. Up to u.


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I WOULD REALY LIKE TO KNOW ALSO I HAVE A RESIPIE FOR IT BUT SOME OF THE CHEMICALS ON THE LIST I CAN NOT GET, IF YOU HAVE AN EASY WHAY TO MAKE IT I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR, BEEN USING THE STUFF 2-3 TIMES A WEEK FOR YEARS TO GET A GOOD NIGHT SLEEP


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Fonz

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How to make GHB:

Ingredients:

1. GBL
2. NaOH(sodium Hydroxide)
3. Vinegar(to adjust PH)
4. PH tabs

Mix the GBL with the NaOH. After they have
reacted check the PH with the PH tabs.
Alter the PH with the vinegar until the PH
of the solution is exactly 7.0

And voila, you have GHB. That easy.

Godspeed


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Big_Daddy_Budda

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posted March 11, 2001 07:27 PM

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It ain't THAT easy. I had the instructions butr lost them, and they were TWO PAGES long. If anyone has more info please send me it at [email protected]


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DieHuge

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posted March 11, 2001 07:28 PM

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If you have GBL, what is the point of making GHB?


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Fonz

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GHB is stronger, gram per gram than GBL.
GBL=precursor to GHB.
It is as easy to make as I have specified.
Please use a lab for this, "bathtub" GHB
is very dangerous because it contains
impurities, and is either too alkaline or
too acidic, and is often made with lye.
Godspeed


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Big_Daddy_Budda

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posted March 11, 2001 07:40 PM

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A lab? Are you kidding me? How am I gonna get access to a lab? Any other things I can use bro?


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Big_Daddy_Budda

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posted March 11, 2001 07:43 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by Fonz:
How to make GHB:

Ingredients:

1. GBL
2. NaOH(sodium Hydroxide)
3. Vinegar(to adjust PH)
4. PH tabs

Mix the GBL with the NaOH. After they have
reacted check the PH with the PH tabs.
Alter the PH with the vinegar until the PH
of the solution is exactly 7.0

And voila, you have GHB. That easy.

Godspeed


Where can I get these things? And what are they? And the ph tabs are for checking PH right? Can't you go into more detail bro. Its a bit vague. But I appreciate it all the same



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Dr.Big

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posted March 11, 2001 07:43 PM

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BOY IF THE GBL WAS THAT MUCH EASIER OR CHEAPER TO GET THAN GHB MABY I WOULD TRY THAT


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Fonz

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I didn't mean go to a real lab. Only that if
you happen to buy GHB of the net, please
make sure its made by a reputable source,
as disreputable sources make bad GHB that
could potentially kill you.
If you wan to make your own,just make sure
you have a clean work area with relatively
sterile instruments. No need for a "static-free"
clean room.
As far as the PH tabs are concerned, any
general chem store seels them. They are
definately not regulated.

Godspeed



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Big_Daddy_Budda

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posted March 11, 2001 07:54 PM

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What about gbl? and NaOH? Don't even know what they are. Where can I get them from. Need more instructions on making the stuff to be honest buddy. Have u made your own before?


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Fonz

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posted March 11, 2001 07:59 PM

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GBL is regulated, and Sodium Hydroxide is
a common chemical re-agent.
If you don't know what GBL is, then you've never
made GHB before, as the latter is essential.
And yes, I've personally made both the
sodium based GHB-Na, and the potassium
based GHB-K.

Godspeed


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Eramthgin

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posted March 11, 2001 08:03 PM

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If someone sends the instructions bounce them to me please.


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Big_Daddy_Budda

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Ofcourse I've never made ghb before that is why i posted this message. Look man, if u could help with i would really appreciate it. From what u have told me i am still stuck. More detailed instructions/advice on how to do it and where i may get the ingredients from and i would be forever grateful. Email me if u want to keep it low profile at [email protected]

Cheers


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Fonz

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Go to:

wwww.erowid.org/chemicals/ghb/ghb.shtml

then scroll down the page to:

GHB synthesis.

The explanation on how to make GHB is rather
good.

Godspeed


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Pharm Animal

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Fonz....

stop posting this info....Big_Daddy_Budda and others like him are gonna end up killing themselves....he obviously doesn't know the first thing about chemistry, let alone pH values. B_D_B....no disrespect, but you shouldn't be screwing around with chemicals without the proper knowledge or training on basic chemicals, such as sodium hydroxide.

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Big_Daddy_Budda

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You're right, I know nothing about such chemicals, and to be perfectly honest, I had no idea I needed to. So you shouldn't jump down my neck because I'm not a chemist. Everyone starts somewhere. I simply wanted to know how to make ghb. Don't treat me like an idiot bro.


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Big_Daddy_Budda

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posted March 11, 2001 08:23 PM

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Pharm, i respect u r only trying to help.
Fonz, there is no info on making ghb on that site u gave me.


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FreakMonster

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Dude if you don't know what GBL or NaOH are then you don't need to be making the stuff.
DO SOME FUCKING RESEARCH MAN!!
You are playing with fire!!!!

Fonz:
Please don't tell him how to make it. You are also missing a couple of ingredients


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Andy13

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GHB is so simple to make, you could probably train a monkey to do it... But then again, that's what i thought about fina extraction too... Some guys will just FIND a way to fuck it up...

Anyway, you should never buy GBL from those scientific supply houses... That is, unless you want the feds to show up with it. I think butandiol is still available.. GBL can be made from that...

How?? Go open a book.. God forbid you might learn something along the way.

Andy


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B_D_B....it's all good....just be sure to educate yourself on basic college level chemistry first...get an intro chem course textbook....otherwise, i'd suggest buying it pre-made....expensive, but (usually) safe...good luck bro

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quote:
Originally posted by Andy13:
GHB is so simple to make, you could probably train a monkey to do it... But then again, that's what i thought about fina extraction too... Some guys will just FIND a way to fuck it up...

Anyway, you should never buy GBL from those scientific supply houses... That is, unless you want the feds to show up with it. I think butandiol is still available.. GBL can be made from that...

How?? Go open a book.. God forbid you might learn something along the way.

Andy



Hey, Batman, don't disrespect people. Simply because i have little knowledge on making ghb, does not make me stupid.


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Andy13

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posted March 11, 2001 08:33 PM

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No disrespect intended.

Andy


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Yes it is easy to make but if you don't know what your doing you'll

A) Burn yourself
B) Kill yourself
C) Make a mess in your kitchen
or
D) Make yourself and other people sick because your PH is off.

The tricky part is getting all the ratios measured out perfectly.


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Are all you guys fucking chemists or something. Why do I feel inferior simply because I'm not well up on chemicals. Jesus man I'm here to learn. I'm sure you started somewhere. Take it easy. Perhaps if people like you helped me instead of dissin me I wouldn't be in this situation.


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Research it on the net!!!!

There's tons of info.
Just go to a search on www.google.com

Like I said if you don't know what the fuck NaOH is then you don't need to be making it until you know.

I'm not flaming you just trying to steer you in the right direction.


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Guys, i'm not an idiot. I hear you all about the dangers. I learn very well. Perhaps someone could actually help me instead of saying 'you don't know so leave it'. Is that your motto? If everyone gave up because they were dealing with something new etc, we'd be in a shit world.


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You won't be saying that when you get busted with it and you spend 5 fucking years in the pen because you don't know what the fuck your doing!!

WISE THE FUCK UP!!


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Big_Daddy_Budda

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Man, ask for advice, ask for help....get a shit load of abuse. How the fuck did you learn FreakMonster???


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The stuff I buy here in Southern Cal runs from fricking unbeliveable, and cost about 50 bucks for 12 oz bottle. The good stuff is worth it but try to be moderate. I have taken more than one trip to the hospital at a cost of about $2,500, because I took too much and od'd/

The most reliable source for great g here, makes it and it is bascially tasteless. Needless to say he won't tell what is in it or who makes it. I know he picks up the ingriedents in Mexico for cost and to be inconsicuious.

Solidspine


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Why don't you ask the guy you bought your stuff from before?
He will be your best teacher!!


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Anyway, the gh is kickin in...tired. Thanks for the 'advice', later.


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quote:
Originally posted by Big_Daddy_Budda:
Are all you guys fucking chemists or something.


sorry bro....i double-majored... BS in chemistry and one in biology....so yeah, i guess i'm a chemist...LOL


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If you want LEARN about GHB:


go to:
www.ghb.org

Extremely informative site.

Freakmonster, I only left out the ratios.

And sorry, at the begginning of the post I thought
he'd made GHB before.......my mistake

Godspeed



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Well distilled water makes it easier to adjust the PH. Didn't know Vineager worked.

Also a little bit of Vodka thrown into the mix so your boiling point can be higher


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quote:
Originally posted by FreakMonster:
Well distilled water makes it easier to adjust the PH. Didn't know Vineager worked.

Also a little bit of Vodka thrown into the mix so your boiling point can be higher



The Vodka part is news to me too.

Godspeed


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WTF!!!
you have more info than you need, do you want me to make-it and take-it for you also...

how the fuck do most of us know, no, most are not chemists--ever heard of reading....its unbelieveable what you might learn....

sorry, bro just sick of lazy-people that want everything done for them'

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*Adding ethanol to INCREASE boiling point????

*First, why would you be concerned with the boiling point of the reaction pot?

*And vodka (ethanol) boils under 100 degrees.

*The ratios really dont matter. You just want to use an excess of NaOH to make sure all your gbl reacts... The ideal situation is that you end up with your pH above 7 so that all of you gbl has reacted. The pH can be brought back down with white vinegar, muriatic acid (Hcl) or a number of other things.

*lastly, it doesnt matter if you use distilled what or not. The reaction is irreversible and quite easy to do.

Andy


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quote:
Originally posted by ROIDRANGER:
WTF!!!
you have more info than you need, do you want me to make-it and take-it for you also...

how the fuck do most of us know, no, most are not chemists--ever heard of reading....its unbelieveable what you might learn....

sorry, bro just sick of lazy-people that want everything done for them'



For a guy who has done over 2000 replies I'm very dissapointed in what you have said. I read all the time bro. I love nothing better than educating myself. I'm a student mental health nurse and so read many books regarding mental illness and the mind, so i'm not alien to reading. I was simply unaware that such a topic as GHB could be read up on. A simple pointer in that direction would have been more than enough, the abuse is unnecessary, especially for a man of your experience. I am only a novice in this game.


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Buddha all the info you coud possibly need is
at WWW.GHB.ORG

Hope this helps.

And don't mind ROIDRANGER, I think he's
on clomid right now.........LOL

Godspeed


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FONZ--lol!!!! clomid- no ... everything else under the sun medication wise from surgery----YES so please do ignore my bitching(medication)....but there was plenty of info/sites that were posted in order to help///that he just seemed to keep overseeing and i wasnt going to sound like a parrot a repeat a good site that was already posted....

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quote:
Originally posted by Fonz:
And don't mind ROIDRANGER, I think he's
on clomid right now.........LOL

LMAO....RRanger is too damn emotional on OR off the clomid....heheh just teasin' ya RR

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I cant beleive the dis-information on this subject.

Take 130 Ml of GBL
65 grams Sodium hydroxide
130 Ml water
Start to break up the NaOH.
Mix in minimun 2 litre glass container.
A violent exothermic (heat releasing) reaction will start converting the GBL.

The solution should be slightly basic.
Make it more basic by adding some more NaOH bringing the PH up to 11 or 12.

Wait till it cools (could be a while)

Then slowly start adding an acid. I use hydrochloric acid. Bring the PH down till its about 7.5 to 7.8. Which can keep the GBL converted.

Add water to make a total 1 litre of solution

Add 30 grams of thick washed activated charcoal to purify the product and take any residual solvent smell away. This last step is optional, but very good form if you or your friends are gonna drink it.

It will taste like sea water but worse. Mix with V8 or sweet pop.

Any questions ???
Grotto.

I'v lived everywhere but I keep always coming
back to smelly old hogtown. !!


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if you guys need the supplies (instructions come with it) to this, e-mail me at: [email protected] I'm backed by ALL mods at the A-BOLEX board and i'm domestic as well. overnight delivery available. e-mail me for lists. PLEASE, NO "list me" bumps on this thread. just e-mail me. thanks.

T.E.


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Grotto

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Thanks for the sales pitch, but doesn't your kit use Potassium Hydroxide which makes a prduct that is 20 % weaker ???
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quote:
Originally posted by Grotto:
Thanks for the sales pitch, but doesn't your kit use Potassium Hydroxide which makes a prduct that is 20 % weaker ???
Grotto.



Its actually 15% weaker.

Godspeed


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NOT TRUE. Pot. Hydrox. (KOH) and Sod. Hydrox. make THE SAME end result! only difference is less water retention with KOH. I have no idea where you got the "15% weaker" info from.

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EXTREME ive mailed you twice already, once for kicks and the second time to tell you stop source posting!!!!! but your fucking email doesnt work..............

YOUR EMAIL ADDY DOESNT WORK--BUDDY!!!!!!!

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The moleculer weight is different causiing a
weaker product. For example in the recipe I have given above only 44 grams of KOH would be required to react with GBL. This is why
you get a noticable different potency with
KOH...
Sodium Hydroxid is the only way to go, but
calculate than sodium into your diet if you
need to control your sodiu,.
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Extreme, you sell the stuff and you don't even know
its chemistry. That is funny.

The sodium based GHB will pass the blood-brain
barrier more effectively than the potassium
based GHB. Hence the 15% weaker term.
It will take more potassium based GHB to achieve
the effect reached by a given dose of sodium
based GHB.

You're better off reading some books.LOL

Godspeed



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FONZ.....i dont know its chemistry?? Thats funny. i been working with these chems/synthesis for YEARS. its YOU that needs to read a little more champ, and quite frankly, i'm tired of your flames to me. And the e-mail addy is: [email protected]! Operamail has been having downloading problems with account access the past 1-2 days, so i'll get all my e-mails and respond as soon as that problem is solved.

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FONZ, this guy has no clue!

E4L, you're a moron! quit this source posting, immediately

you're lucky i'm not a mod....i'd ban your IP address from this site if i could

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and.. its 91 grams KOH to make the synthesis, not 44. Thats the reason for your less potency. KOH is better if you want less water retention.

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PA....FUCK YOU ASSHOLE. your NOT a mod, so FUCK OFF and mind your OWN DAMN BIZ!!!! Yor the asswipe that DOESNT HAVE A CLUE!!! get laid for the first time you adolescent, immature piece of shit.


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E4l
I have never flamed you because I'v never posted to you before. But what good is all that KOH. It doesnt take that much to react with the GBL. Thats a fact.

This is not art where esoteric notions come into play, but science where only facts matter. I suggest you take another look at
your procedure. I have nothing against KOH, per se, but it does make a weaker product.
That is a scientific fact due to reasons I have stated earlier.

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quote:
Originally posted by EXTREME4LIFE:
PA....FUCK YOU ASSHOLE. your NOT a mod, so FUCK OFF and mind your OWN DAMN BIZ!!!! Yor the asswipe that DOESNT HAVE A CLUE!!! get laid for the first time you adolescent, immature piece of shit.

big daddy buddha, i apologize for this prick ruining your thread like this....mods, i urge you to rid this board of scum like E4L

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HI Y'all
would you like to buy from the guy who
posted the charming post above ???
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it doesnt take that much to react with GBL, but to get the FULL 185 gram synthesis, you'll need 91 grams KOH. even 10 grams of KOH will react, but to make the finished product, you need 91 grams.


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RE_READ MY POST IDIOT

FOr 130 Ml of GBL only 44 grams of KOH is required. I dont know how much GBL your using, so how would I surmise what 91 grams
KOH is for,
If its for the same quantity as my post your
way out in left field.

What a fucking idiot.
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There's this stuff in your stomach called 16M HCl. As soon as the GHB hits it, it will de-ionize the molecule and form NaCl or KCl depending on which is used.

The reason for using more KOH is b/c of the molecular weight. There are more NaOH molecules per gram than KOH since K weighs more. The end product is the same.

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L. Lats

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Isn't GBL fairly hard to get these days- I used to be able to get when I was on vacation in florida, but apparently you can't get it there anymore. As opposed to trying to instruct somebody who is uneducated about chemistry ( no offense at all) why not email him the names of some sights that still distribute Verve or eclipse. That way we won't have to read headlines about somebody- who could be a young kid for anybody knows- catching fire trying to mix these chemicals- I know I don't want to be handling hydrochloric acid and shit like that. And if he tries to test the Ph w/ tabs he could burn his hand off, and they aren't accurate enough for something as dangerous as this- after you guys told him where to learn about it that should have been it- or like i said before give up a sight where to order something weaker then real G and let him run the risk.


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LOL! YOU GUYS ARE FUNNY! YOU REALLY THINK A CAP OF SOMETHING THAT ISN'T TOTALLY NEUTRAL WILL MAKE YOU ILL? LOL!

ALSO, WHERE PEOPLE GET INTO TROUBLE IS WHEN THEY TRY AND USE DRAINO OR SOME OTHER SHIT AS A SOURCE FOR SODIUM HYDROXIDE.

POTASSIUM HYDROXIDE IS ACTUALLY THE BETTER CHOICE FOR YOUR HEALTH, BUT THE REACTION WILL TAKE MUCH LONGER TO COMPLETE.

IN A ONE TO ONE REACTION, THE MOLECULAR WEIGHT OF THE METAL CATION MAKES NO F*CKING DIFFERENCE! WHAT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE IS HOW THE BASES IONIZE IN SOLUTION. THAT IS WHAT DETERMINES HOW QUICKLY ELECTRONS WILL BE TRANSFERRED. LOL, THAT WAS FUNNY.

LASTLY, I HAVE NEVER READ SO MUCH B.S. CHEMISTRY DISCUSSION IN MY LIFE! I KNOW WE ARE ALL CHEMISTRY MAJORS AND DOCTORS HERE, BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS GHB IS SIMPLY A REDUCTION. A HIGH SCHOOL CHEM STUDENT COULD PERFORM THIS REACTION!

SOME ADVICE:
DON'T USE SODIUM HYDROXIDE ABOVE 8 MOLAR.
BUY SOME PH PAPER AT THE DRUG STORE AND MAKE SURE THE PH IS WITHIN 6-8 BEFORE YOU CHUG THE SHIT. OH, AND GOOD OLD BAKING SODA WILL BALANCE YOUR PH IF YOU GO TO HIGH OR LOW. THE BYPRODUCT OF THE VINAGER OXIDATION IS SODIUM ACETATE. I'M PRETTY SURE THAT IS YUCKY STUFF.

LATER TO ALL MY FELLOW CHEMISTS, LOL !

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IF YOU HAD ONE WISH, WHAT WOULD IT BE?


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About 10-11 years ago when G was new to the scene (barely illegal) we used to get is as powder that we would mix into water etc... and I recall reading instructions for making it that yeilded a powder - anyone else remember this? What's the difference?


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The problem is that ghb absorbs water out of the air. I was getting powder too up until last year, but even the powder could melt to liquid
on really humid days.
So there really is no difference. If you want powder its a lot more complicated to work with
anhydrous alcohols to get the powdered stuff.
Grotto.


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posted March 13, 2001 10:32 AM

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Grotto - Thanks! I do recall the old instructions I had being much more complicated than the stuff I'm seeing written here.


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You know what guys....FUCK IT! I'm just gonna buy the God damn shit instead. Thanks for the advice.

Be good.

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Since you live in UK, why not try the company
vitalchemistry.com
They only ship to european countries.
I use dto buy from them a while ago, but they went down for a bit then when they came back they claim to only ship to europe
E-mail em
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