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bigguns

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posted March 11, 2001 12:23 AM

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i just saw in featured sites regarding fina by mr h. he claims fina is new. is this a joke? fina is not new. its been around since the late 80,s. read the late dan duchanes books and get the real story on fina. plus you can find out how to eliminate the estogen
in the fina. yes, there is estrogen in fina.
and you can remove it.by the way the active ingrdiant in fina is trenbolen acetate. this was in the old finaject which is no longer being made. this is not a new a.s. it has been around for at least 40 to 50 years.
i hate to see msinformation being posted.
my advice to anyone is become informed. it is very easy to do now due to the use of the computer.back in the day there was no pc and you had to find things the hard way.so there is no excuse not to be informed.by the way the best a.s. for muscle hardness is fina.you can also use winny to.
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lawnsaver

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posted March 11, 2001 12:33 AM

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Where did you get that info, a book. Finaplix has NO ESTROGEN in it. Mr H is a very educated person about fina. Where and when did he say it was new. How do you take estrogen out of fina??? Please tell me.

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bigguns

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posted March 11, 2001 12:48 AM

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yes, fina h does have estrogen in it it is actualy estidol( not corect spelling) the reason this is done is to insure weight gain. this is why the cattle industry uses it.a biger and fatter cattle means more money for the rancher without more cattle. this is why some people get gyno from fina. estogen is the reason. trenbolen does not aromatize
and does not make you get very large gains in mass, but it does make you very strong and dense.as far as what book, a.s. 2 by duchaine. i have been around since the 80,s
before muscle media, which was the anabolic referance update.do the research.


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juicemonkey420

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posted March 11, 2001 12:54 AM

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Fina does not have estrogen in it. Some forms of the acetate have something like that in it. Mr H is a smart ass dude. Sorry about the typing something is fuked up......


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lawnsaver

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posted March 11, 2001 12:59 AM

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No, people get gyno from fina because it convert to progestone, which gives gyno to certain people. There are 2 products that contain tren with added estrogen, 1. revalor, 2. synovex.

Get your info straight next time. You're lucky there arent to many up this late, otherwise you would be getting your ass flamed.

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Daeo

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posted March 11, 2001 01:02 AM

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I think you're the one who's misinformed bigguns...

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MeanOne

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posted March 11, 2001 01:09 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by bigguns:
yes, fina h does have estrogen in it it is actualy estidol( not corect spelling) the reason this is done is to insure weight gain. this is why the cattle industry uses it.a biger and fatter cattle means more money for the rancher without more cattle. this is why some people get gyno from fina. estogen is the reason. trenbolen does not aromatize and does not make you get very large gains in mass, but it does make you very strong and dense.as far as what book, a.s. 2 by duchaine. i have been around since the 80,s
before muscle media, which was the anabolic referance update.do the research.

Yup, your a fuckin' moron. I can say that with extreme confidence, as it has been a theory for quite some time that finaplix MIGHT contain an estrogen in it, however - this was quickly shot down by the Manufacturer. Then there were claims that a new Fina product would have an estrogen in it...not the case either.

Didn't notice size gains from fina huh? It's called food pal, eat some. Stack Fina with just about any androgen out there, and you have a great base for a mass cycle. I highly suggest you go back to whatever hole you came from you uneducated sap. I don't have to defend Mr. H - as he has done his fair share to piss me off in the past, but on this issue he is correct. Perhaps you should edit or delete your post in hopes of saving face for those of us whom have not read your foolish post.

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bigguns

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posted March 11, 2001 01:32 AM

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so you think i am missinformed? i guess dan duchain is misinformed too, al due respect to
mr h who i am sure is knolegeable, but
duchaine is the master in which everyone copyies. fina h does have a compound that converts to estrogen.as far as gaining weight with fina, if you use it with test or anadrol or other with a cycle , you will gain size in fact a lot of size. but if you only use fina you will get some size but not a lot.this is a fact. i never said i am a master here but i do know what works and what does not.and when you have a limited amount of money and can not afford to buy a ton of a.s. you need to get what you can afford and what will give you the best gains or results. like fina and eq.it is easy to flame but hard to find knowledge.do some research to back up your statements.


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Daeo

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posted March 11, 2001 01:42 AM

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Explain to me then why fina hardens you up please. If it contains so much estrogen as you say it does, wouldn't that cause you to retain water and fat. It looks like your posting everything you know right out of a book...

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bigguns

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posted March 11, 2001 01:48 AM

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fina hardens you up due to the fact it is 100% androgen. also it ataches to the receptor sites better the any other a.s.
in fact you will see major hardness if on
a pre contest diet. as far as estrogen it is progesterol not esrogen. i must correct myself.


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lawnsaver

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posted March 11, 2001 01:50 AM

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Ok knowitall, is it possible you are wrong? Mr guru, Dan has been known to be misimformed also. Revalor and Synovex have tren acetate with estradiol benzoate. This is what he was referring to. Finaplix has No estrogen in it.

Answer this on. If fina has estrogen in it, how come the gyno symptoms cant be controled with nolvadex or arimidex? Its because the side arent from estrogen.

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Pharm Animal

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posted March 11, 2001 01:51 AM

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case in point: i prepared for my last show on a healthy dosage of fina and winny.....i could not have won the whole freakin show if i was injecting estradiol. bro, take mean one's advice and get fucking educated!

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lawnsaver

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posted March 11, 2001 01:52 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by bigguns:
fina hardens you up due to the fact it is 100% androgen. also it ataches to the receptor sites better the any other a.s.
in fact you will see major hardness if on
a pre contest diet. as far as estrogen it is progesterol not esrogen. i must correct myself.


Wrong again. Proviron is a androgen only.
Fina is both 3 times more androgenis and 2 time more anabolic than test.

You are just digging a hole.

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bigguns

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posted March 11, 2001 01:53 AM

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as for using what i know.i went from 160 to
218 without changing my waist size which is a 31. i am no novice. to get results takes more wthen just using a.s. otherwise everyone would be huge. look around the gym you will see what i mean.


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Rugby

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posted March 11, 2001 02:08 AM

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Revalor
A revolutionary implant that combines 120 mg androgen and 24 mg estrogen in a single implant. Revalor-S will improve feed efficiency, profits, average daily gains and maximize your manpower utilization. Revalor-S combines the best chemistry into a single implant to give improved performance, so you can design the program to best meet your needs.---- Taken exactly from a fina website

SYNOVEX H Heifer Implants contain two pure steroid hormones, testosterone propionate and estradiol benzoate. This formulation provides a complementary amount of each hormone for maximal growth stimulation. Is recommended for use in heifers weighing 400 lbs. (200 Kg.) or more. Comes in packages of 100 units.


So to wrap it up... Some tren products have estradiol and estrogen(revalor and synovex)... some don;t such as fina-h...

BTW--- i noticed that the synovex and component e-h have test prop in it... So is that legal for us to buy now?


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EmptyWallet

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posted March 11, 2001 02:09 AM

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You pretty much just proved yourself a fucking moron to me by listening to everything Dan says. Dude if you read some more and listened to what the fuck people were saying you would realize H knows his shit. Everyone fucking knows about finaject or whatever the hell it is called.

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Daeo

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posted March 11, 2001 02:14 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by bigguns:
yes, fina h does have estrogen in it it is actualy estidol( not corect spelling) the reason this is done is to insure weight gain. this is why the cattle industry uses it.a biger and fatter cattle means more money for the rancher without more cattle. this is why some people get gyno from fina. estogen is the reason. trenbolen does not aromatize
and does not make you get very large gains in mass, but it does make you very strong and dense.as far as what book, a.s. 2 by duchaine. i have been around since the 80,s
before muscle media, which was the anabolic referance update.do the research.

Nice backstepping on your part. You may want to either A)Delete this post or B)Apologize and admit you are wrong or C)Kill yourself or D)All of the above..


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Damian Borleone

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posted March 11, 2001 03:39 AM

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IMPLANTS:

Encore - 43.9mg estradiol
Compudose - 25.7mg estradiol
Synovex S/Component E-S - 20mg estradiol benzoate, 200mg progesterone
Synovex H/Component E-H - 20mg estradiol benzoate, 200mg testosterone propionate
Synovex C/Component E-C - 10mg estradiol benzoate, 100mg progesterone
Finaplix S/Component T-S - 140mg trenbolone acetate
******Finaplix H******/Component T-H - 200mg trenbolone acetate
Revalor S/Component TE-S - 24mg estradiol, 120mg trenbolone acetate
Revalor G - 8mg estradiol, 40mg trenbolone acetate
Revalor H - 14mg estradiol, 140mg trenbolone acetate
Ralgro - 36mg zeranol
Ralgro Magnum - 72mg zeranol
Synovex Plus - 28mg estradiol benzoate, 140mg trenbolone acetate

Bigguns, there is no estradiol in Finaplix "H"....


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TrueCowboy

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posted March 11, 2001 11:36 AM

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Damian and Rugby spelled it out. There is no f*@king estrogen, estradiol, or anything like it it Finaplix. I own over 2000 hd of cattle, and hve given practically every implant listed to thousands of hd of cattle. Have a BS in animal science and have been to many shortcourses put on by the manufaturers to learn about their products. Trust me, there is no estrogen in Finaplix, listen Mr. H, he knows his sh#t.


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Green

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posted March 11, 2001 11:38 AM

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LOL
That's all I can say.

Huck you don't know Jack about fina!!!

BBBWWWAAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA


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DIXIEBOY

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posted March 11, 2001 11:44 AM

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Anabolic Reference Update..God I remember those BIGGUNS!!! Do you still have those around? Do you know where I can get copies of them. Those little fricking pamplets had great info!

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TrueCowboy

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posted March 11, 2001 11:52 AM

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By the way, I give it to my dog and it doesn't make him fat, just big and mean. Ha


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bigguns

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posted March 11, 2001 12:13 PM

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yes,idid not make the distintion between the diferant formulations on fina. i appoligize for not geting the whole story correct.i have read what mr h has said and he is correct.
the comments i made were due to not reading mr h info but just looking at intro wich said it was new. also not to make any excuses but
last night i had a huge fight with my wife and got very drunk and made and said many stupid things.again appoligies to all.

to all you single guys do not get married unless you are sure about compadability.otherwise you will become very unhappy like me.later


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EmptyWallet

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posted March 11, 2001 12:31 PM

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Hey man its cool. I retract my statement from above. I know exactly what your talking about. I understand about the wife thing. I have the same prop except its with my gf. I cant do anything worth a shit when we are fighting. Its cool you apologized about the whole thing and it takes a big man to admit when he's wrong. Got some respect for ya bro. Oh yeah, hope everything gets better with the wifey.

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Daeo

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quote:
Originally posted by bigguns:
yes,idid not make the distintion between the diferant formulations on fina. i appoligize for not geting the whole story correct.i have read what mr h has said and he is correct.
the comments i made were due to not reading mr h info but just looking at intro wich said it was new. also not to make any excuses but
last night i had a huge fight with my wife and got very drunk and made and said many stupid things.again appoligies to all.

to all you single guys do not get married unless you are sure about compadability.otherwise you will become very unhappy like me.later


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DIXIEBOY

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posted March 11, 2001 12:59 PM

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Bigguns..I agree about the marriage thing. Divorced(1) broke engagement(1) = debt out the ass --- women and the credit cards.
Oh and never co-sign even if married.X-wife had car repoed and I was liable.BEEEATCH!

Anyway you have those Updates anymore?Just wanted to know if so or do you know where I can get them.


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Loophole Genetics

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I don't care what excuse he comes up with. That was the funniest damn thing I've read in a long time. I'm still laughing. I hope all you newbies, and there's alot of you now, learn a BIG lesson from this. These boards are for us to learn, not OUT DO each other. Quit trying to be something (genius) that your not. Most people on these boards don't really know shit, but just because they've read several paragraphs out of a book about steroids, or because they've been reading old issues of MM2000, they think that they're gurus. YOUR NOT. When people act like this, it runs the good guys away, because they don't wanna be part of a board where people like this exist. Thats why a ton of people have left this board in the past month. This used to be my favorite board. I really hope you guys grow up some, and bring this board back to where it was before.


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