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  A friend of mine wants to do a cycle, but he's not ready.

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crash3837

Amateur Bodybuilder

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posted March 10, 2001 02:46 PM

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I've been planning to do a cycle for quite some time, and I am just about ready to get started on it. Anyways this friend of mine who never went to the gym, or never really gave half a damn about trying to stay in shape (he sure liked to talk about starting to work out, like most people: "This summer I'm gonna start working out and get all buff and shit" and then never go through with it) he used to tell me how stupid I was for even thinking about doing a cycle. Well we live in the same town now and I started taking him to the gym, and sometimes he goes and a lot of the times he dosen't. The point is that now since he has been working out (for about 6months now) and a combination of reading this board he wants to do a cycle the same time I do. Well in my opinion and most others on this board from things he has posted,,,HE IS NOT READY. Well for a few days after he posted some really stupid questions and everybody told him how he should wait on doing a cycle because he was definitely not ready, he said he wasn't going to do one because he agreed he wasn't ready. Well now he's all pumped saying "fuck it I'm gonna do one anyway".
So wouldn't some of you say if he goes ahead with it anyway and starts a cycle isn't it going to be a waste? I think it will. But he won't listen to me, so I'm thinking about just letting him find out for himself.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 10, 2001 02:51 PM

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telford

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posted March 10, 2001 02:56 PM

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well said iron

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CN1

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posted March 10, 2001 02:59 PM

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well there is a problem, if he doesnt go to the gym consistently atleast 4 times a week, he shouldnt do it right now, give him some hints, hey bro summer is coming, you dont want to waste your money, its too hot to put on weight, you dont feel like eatin and your always sweating, not good conditions for first run. Tell him to train natural for the summer, creatine and andro, and say look use this time(the summer) to achieve a status to do your first cycle, tell him then it will cool off and the time will be right and plus he will have put about 4 months of hard work in. personally I think an individual should achieve their maximum weight naturally and then do a cycle, I weigh 235 and if I would have tried to put on more weight naturally at first maybe I would be 255 right now......anyway tell him steroids are not like smokin weed, they are serious program implementing drugs, you must eat right, train right, rest well and a million other factors, he sounds like a typical dude who will get on a cycle, make some improvements then just stop or well I cant say this, but if hes not ready, then the bottom line is he should wait, if he works out with you let him get motivation built up over the summer while you are juicin, then he can start after he is more experienced as a committed bb, cause once you start this lifestyle you dont want to stop! If you stop we all know the effects, shrinkage or you dry up, depression, and a shitty physique.


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crash3837

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posted March 10, 2001 10:30 PM

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CN1, I have given him hints,,, and people on this board have flamed him big time. He just started using andro a month or 2 ago and he stopped using it because he didn�t like the way it made him feel, I�ve asked him how is he going to handle juice if he can�t handle andro? He just in a fantasy world and wants something for nothing,(wants all of the good stuff that comes with working out/ but dosen�t want to put any effort into it. Another thing is that he has never gone to the gym himself, if I have to work late, and I go to the gym early, he doesn�t go at all. So as you can see he is not dedicated enough to be messing around with this stuff.


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champion

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posted March 10, 2001 10:38 PM

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If your friend is going to do it, then fuck him...make sure he knows you (and alot of others) think he is an idiot for this decision. Make sure he knows he is on his own, you will not help him,give him tips,train with him, ect,ect....
If he wants to fuck up he has to fuck up big enough to learn from it.


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pittbull2

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posted March 10, 2001 10:40 PM

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Tell him hes going to look like a pimple faced beach whale if he does the juice with no training. haha


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crash3837

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posted March 10, 2001 10:46 PM

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He already is pimple faced, he was also a beach whale befor he finally started coming to the gym, so he has lost some weight.


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Twiggy

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posted March 11, 2001 02:49 AM

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I am in a similar situation... I'm getting ready to start my first cycle, and my roommates/training partners are planning on doing one with me. They have been training with me for almost a year, and work their asses off in the gym. Thing is, they'll rarely go without me. If my schedule requires me to go at a funky time, they stay at home and smoke weed. (not so bad in and of itself, but they smoke a LOT of weed... Probably go through an eighth a day between the two of 'em )

Their diet is pretty much non-existant... One is a vegetarian and gets protein mainly from the occasional shake, and the other has no appetite to speak of. Like I said, they work hard in the gym, but no other necessary factors for success are there.

They know I've been planning a cycle. They see my (thus far) natural gains and those of another friend who juices and want a piece of that. They've made some progress themselves and want to step it up to the next level. But they're not ready to juice.

Thing is, they are going to do it regardless. Their minds are made up -- So I've decided to help them out as best I can with their planning and cycling... I'll make sure they do it "right," in the sense that they will have a reasonably designed cycle and won't hurt themselves. (They are not the type to research the drugs themselves -- they would shoot up whatever Vinnie the Back Alley Monkey told 'em to if left alone)

I have some reservations -- They probably won't see ideal gains while on, and will probably lose the majority of gains after we stop due to pretty crappy diets, but they are close friends and I don't want to see them fuck up severely.

Hopefully the next couple months will serve as a wake up call to them -- I'm hoping they will see my progress (which WILL happen ) and become more serious about their own training. We'll see... Hopefully I'm doing the right thing!


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Fonz

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posted March 11, 2001 06:47 AM

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I think your friends need a serious reality
check. Instead of helping them, you should
not. They need to learn a lesson. Steroids
are not safe if used improperly, and they
need to be understood by the people
using them in case anything goes wrong.
Tell your friends to read up on steroids
first, and then when they have a decent grasp
of steroid pharmokinetics, then you should
help them. This might sound like a very
un-nice thing to do to them, but they're trying
to get something for nothing,(basically using
you) and there are bound to be
repercussions later when something goes
wrong(they will blame you).

Godspeed


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CN1

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posted March 11, 2001 07:11 AM

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well since the posts are going negative, or off on a good note, do this, get him to buy everything in the book, deca test winstrol primo, and tell him he needs to take 12 ccs a week, tell him you will give him the shots, say okay turn around dont look, close your eyes, then before you stick it in, have an empty body right there and pump 4ccs for yourself, then just shoot one cc in him. Free gear, I know its crazy but I know guys that have done it.


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crash3837

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posted March 11, 2001 01:44 PM

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Fonz, that is a very good point that you brought up, meaning if something were to go wrong that the blame would fall onto me probably. Its really making me think,,, sounds kinda shitty, but making me think about telling him to do it himself. Besides if I'm finally going to go through with one, I'm going to want to focus all of my attention on myself and not have to worry about someone else.


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Spunky

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posted March 11, 2001 02:08 PM

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i've got alot of friends like that.. i tell them they aren't ready because they don't understand all the work u must put into it for a cycle to work well. they think working out half-assed and drinking a couple shakes a day is fine.. they don't eat hardly anything tho..... it pisses me off. i hate to see them waste their money.


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Providian

Amateur Bodybuilder

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posted March 11, 2001 02:13 PM

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Tell him to grow the fuck up- and you,if he does start using and screws himself up or ends up at the hospital, how long will it be before your name is dragged into the mess? I hate this ongoing shit with teenagers.


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crash3837

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posted March 11, 2001 11:26 PM

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Providian what does that mean? Tell him to grow the fuck up- and you,. Is that a misprint?


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