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SSAlexSS

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posted March 10, 2001 12:54 PM

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Hey!

If lets say Arnold was in his best shape now, (his Mr.Olympia days) How would he do in modern competition? Would he even get 5th place in Mr. Olympia contest? Or what?

Lets discuss it!


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ultragainz

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posted March 10, 2001 12:57 PM

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in the top 5 for sure........later

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SSAlexSS

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posted March 10, 2001 01:04 PM

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in the top 5 for sure........later

But he had little muscle mass (in legs). He is very unproportioned for todays bodybuilding standarts. He had big chest and big arms, yet small tiny legs! Look at people of today. Not only they have huge upper body, but lower body as well!

I seen guys who got the last place in Arnold Classic who were as big as Arnold!


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swolupdieter

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I would think that arnold would place in the top ten. When Arnold competed he didn't have to many drugs to experince with like we do today. But arnold was a great bodybuilder in his days.

Stay Hungry


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ultragainz

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no top 5 for sure cuz "shawn ray" is about 215-225 and "arnold" is a lot bigger.....later

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posted March 10, 2001 01:14 PM

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given the various drugs today that bodybuilders take to keep somewhat healthy with the megadoses they take, I think arnold's genetics would have him in the top two or three. There's no doubt he juiced, but I don't think anyone back than came close to what they do now. Plus there's also a lot more legal supplements available today the bb's take along with gear.


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Jeff_rys

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I strongly disagree. If there was one BB who could EASILY compete now, then it was Sergio Oliva (the one and only MYTH).
And believe it or not, i was a great Arnold lover, but one has to be honest and realistic.

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SSAlexSS

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quote:
Originally posted by swolupdieter:
I would think that arnold would place in the top ten. When Arnold competed he didn't have to many drugs to experince with like we do today. But arnold was a great bodybuilder in his days.

Stay Hungry



He was great bodybuilder in HIS DAYS. I am asking abiout CURRENT days where mass mmonsters like Coleman rule!


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Spunky

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posted March 10, 2001 02:14 PM

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how many times has soemthing like this been posted? arnold competed in a different era. I don't think its fair to even try to compare him to today's standards.


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SSAlexSS

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quote:
Originally posted by ultragainz:
no top 5 for sure cuz "shawn ray" is about 215-225 and "arnold" is a lot bigger.....later

Remember that Arnold was 6'2. Pretty tall!
And that means that MORE of his weight is made from bone and other insides. Sure Shawn Ray is not that heavy. But is he as tall as arnold? If shawn ray was taller, he would weight more. All those xtra bones, skin and flesh adds weight.


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Pharm Animal

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posted March 10, 2001 04:44 PM

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alex, everything you post is SHIT

examples of some of the shit topics you have posted:
Is this the ULTIMATE steroid cycle?
What is the best leg routine?
How to deal with parents?
Blood type and Bodybuilding???
Injecting your pets with steroids question!
What bodytype is the best for bodybuilding?
How can I get steroids by prescription?
Hows to get BIG HUGE ABS???
Who is your Favorite Bodybuilder?
Can you feel your muscle growing?
Werd upper/lower body! Help please!
Whats you favorite muscle to work out?
Arnold Vs Dorian Vs Ronnie Colemen -Winner?
God Did not Create Men The Same, Anabolic Steroids Make Up For His Mistakes.
How much protein should i take

these all belong on the chat and conversation board....maybe you can get more posts there without pissing off too many people


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SSAlexSS

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quote:
Originally posted by Pharm Animal:
alex, everything you post is SHIT

A lot of your replies are SHIT!

So keep your ass shut! I mean .,... mouth...


Really, GET OF BEER!
If you don't like the post - DONT READ IT!
This is bodybuilding board - NOT a FLAMING BOARD!


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lets put it this way i hear guys like LEE "I hate THE GUY" Priest take so much gear that there testisterone levels are like 400 X what a normal persons is

In arnolds days they were lucky to have testosterone levels 20 X the normal level

So if arnold was in his prime today using thayt much gear i bet he would be a monster way bigger then coleman.

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wacked

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posted March 10, 2001 05:06 PM

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Pharm Animal knows what he's talkin about


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Cornellius

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posted March 10, 2001 05:14 PM

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Bodybuildyng contests isn�t about who is the best. It�s about who wants Mr. Weider to win. If the weiders make money by makeing Ronnie win year after year, he will be winning until he isn�t popular anymore or his body can�t take the drugs. Arnold is smart as shit, and know how to market himself. Th�t�s why the weiders would make money by makeing him the winner. So, I say that arnold would win.


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Pharm Animal

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SSAlexSS
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Hello all!

Is there any way I can get steroids by prescription? I heard that some people have done it. What about you?

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Cornellius

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posted March 10, 2001 05:43 PM

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Alex??? anything to say???


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Riker29

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Wow. You know, I came to this board to learn about A's, and wow, THANK YOU SO MUCH, BECUASE YOUR INSIGHTFULL QUESTION AND ITS RESPONSES ABOUT A BB'R FROM 20 YEARS AGO, AND HOW HE WOULD PLACE NOW IS THEY KEY TO KNOWING EVERYTHING I EVER NEEDED ABOUT AS'S.

Who the hell cares abnout these dumbass hypothetical questions. Is it about AS's? Or something closely related? No? Then shut up and stop wasting our time.


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Cornellius

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posted March 10, 2001 05:54 PM

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Alex, again, anything to say for your defence???


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pittbull2

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posted March 10, 2001 05:58 PM

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Alex, Read a while bro!


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GLP

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He is the man and I have mad respect for him. But if he were to compete today doubt he would even get a call out. Now if you gave him acess to all the drugs the freaks use today that would be a different story.


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Pharm Animal

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quote:
Originally posted by Cornellius:
If the weiders make money by makeing Ronnie win year after year, he will be winning until he isn�t popular anymore or his body can�t take the drugs.

god damn...that's the most logical thing i've read in this post! that is the one reason why i will never go and pay weider to watch one of his shows....however i will ALWAYS support local level NPC bodybuilding!

PA


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Cornellius, i noticed you're from chile....what's the gear scene like down there? i have always wanted to travel south america, especially the east and west coasts

PA


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SSAlexSS

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quote:
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SSAlexSS
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Thats easy.
In my second post (which your cutted and pasted). I WAS WONDERING HOW IT - IS POSSIBLE TO GET THEM ! I did NOT SAY that I will take them! (show me the link to tht post)

Also my post about not using steroids, Was that the post I made about injecting animals with steroids? That would include you ANIMAL!
I did not want to leave the impression that I would do it on animals, no way. Thats bad.

Again, so what? I might have contradicted myself (again get me the url to those two posts, I want to remember exactly what I wrote there) SO??

Many people change their minds pretty fast!
A guy might be a steroid addict the first year and the next year be the biggest criticiser of steroids!

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quote:
Originally posted by Riker29:
Wow. You know, I came to this board to learn about A's, and wow, THANK YOU SO MUCH, BECUASE YOUR INSIGHTFULL QUESTION AND ITS RESPONSES ABOUT A BB'R FROM 20 YEARS AGO, AND HOW HE WOULD PLACE NOW IS THEY KEY TO KNOWING EVERYTHING I EVER NEEDED ABOUT AS'S.

Who the hell cares abnout these dumbass hypothetical questions. Is it about AS's? Or something closely related? No? Then shut up and stop wasting our time.


You don't like the post? DO NOT READ IT!
I am not forcing anyone to read it!

Also pro-bodybuildng and steroids are like night and day! You cannot have one without the other! It is related!

Actually this topic IS STEROID RELATED!
Just look what MIRACLES GH does!

Dorian and so on used GH. Ahnold did not, and thus was SMALL compared to those guys!


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Pharm Animal

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how does it feel to get burned alex?

LOL...strengthmonster would probably be proud of me...heheheh

anyways, i'm out of here to train...i'm sure you've heard in flex magazine....that's what bodybuilders do!


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quote:
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how does it feel to get burned alex?

LOL...strengthmonster would probably be proud of me...heheheh

anyways, i'm out of here to train...i'm sure you've heard in flex magazine....that's what bodybuilders do!


I dont read flex. And I dson't chew on that BONE like some people here...


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quote:
Originally posted by SSAlexSS:
so what? I might have contradicted myself (again get me the url to those two posts, I want to remember exactly what I wrote there) SO??



LOL digging deeper, eh? go do a search for it....i used the search word "SSAlexSS"

oh my bad....you probably don't know how to use the search....


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posted March 11, 2001 12:13 AM

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you cannot compare the two... they were in 2 different times.


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[email protected] till we get the new board up buddy


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Pharm Animal

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LOL J....

if i'm not on your board you can find me here with a foot up alex's ass

at least the boy gives me something to do as i wait PATIENTLY on your board....heheheh


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PA, best laugh I've had for a while. You wouldn't want to put your foot up there...you might not get it back.


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Cornellius

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Pharm Animal, check your mai.

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HOW MANY TIMES HAVE I READ THIS ARGUMENT THIS WEEK ALONE. GIVE IT A REST!!!!!


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Arnold had incredible genetics and if he used all the stuff pros use today i.e.- parabolan,IGF-1,G.H.,bucket full of test,
EPO,slin,PGF2,and synthol to name a few,then
I think Coleman and the likes would shit their pants!!!!
Nuff Said Munzer


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arnold even in his best shape would not get ton ten in my opinion. but if arnold were competing in the age instead of years ago and had all of the drugs and knowlegde that we have now then i believe that he would easily win. his genetics are unmatched by any that i have EVER seen.

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Asia the Invincible

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hE'd place dead last.


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i think it would be tough for arnold to win a pro card. that is with the same physique that he had a quarter of a century ago. he was the best when he competed for sure and would be there today with todays technology and knowledge.
my .02
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It pains me to say this.....do they give anything for last place.

The only thing judges want now a days are freaks. Shit look at these guys they are 100 lbs heavier then Arnie. Look at the women that compete now they look more like Arnie.

But for historical perspective I think he is still number 1.


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