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fatshit

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posted March 10, 2001 11:16 AM

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my goal is to have almost "zero" estrogen
and not to retain a pound of water.
i will be using Prop,suspension,EQ,Tren,Winny

what dosage do u think is appropriate for my goal?

thanks


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fatshit

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posted March 10, 2001 12:49 PM

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please help


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'ORCHITIS'

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posted March 10, 2001 12:52 PM

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I don't know about the whole zero estrogen thing, but half a day is almost what I run. I go in between 1/3 & 1/2 of the liquid arimidex ed. I look good, but it doesn't deplete all of the estrogen in my body. However, it might in someone elses body because everyone is a little different. You just have to find the dose thats best for you. Basically make yourself a lab rat

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lawnsaver

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posted March 10, 2001 01:23 PM

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They say 1 pill ed for 4 days will stop estrogen production, but thats without gear. What are your doses? I would think you should start with 1/2 eod and go from there. Everybody is different. You will have to feel it out for yourself.

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swolupdieter

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posted March 10, 2001 01:26 PM

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Bump!


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40butpumpin

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posted March 10, 2001 10:38 PM

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I've been taking 1 pill per day (1 mg) for a few months so it definitely won't hurt you.


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Anabolicum Mister

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posted March 10, 2001 10:45 PM

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But it may hurt your wallet! Experiment with the dosage, starting low and increasing until you notice no estrogen related side effects. This would allow for the most cost effective dosage.


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40butpumpin

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posted March 10, 2001 11:06 PM

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Oh absolutely, I was just staying that I've proven to myself that 1 mg per day has no negatives or dangers that I can see. Definitely start real low, even 1 mg divided over a whole week, then go from there. Ouch it's expensive.

Thanks for that Anabolicum Mister. :-)


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Stew Meat

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posted March 10, 2001 11:51 PM

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At 1/2 pill EOD, it is pretty cheap...
I know some people charge a lot, but there are sources that carry if for less than $4 per tab. That's only like $100 or so for a whole cycle. That's not much more than proviron or nolvadex...


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Riker29

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posted March 11, 2001 05:39 AM

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Yeah, but you cant get it in Mexico, so its so hard to find, that its just about unavailable for many bros out there.


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Fonz

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posted March 11, 2001 08:12 AM

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Ok, here goes. And, I hope this clears
up a lot of misconceptions regarding
Armidex(anastrozole).
First some background:

Arimidex is what we call an aromatase-inhibitor.
It stops the body from making the aromatase
enzyme that converts testosterone ot estrogen.
Ok, now that we now ome basics, here comes the
shocker:

1. Arimidex dosage is directly related to
the amount of testosterone you are currently
taking!!!

The body has a incredible ability in its ability to
maintain homeostasis. The more test you inject
the more aromatase enzyme the body will
produce. Hence, he arimidex will not be able to
block the increased level of aromatase enzymes,
and more will have to be taken to block the
aforementioned enzymes.

There is one thing that can be done. That is the
concurrent administration of tamoxifen citrate
with anastrozole. While anastrozole will block
the aromatase enzyme(to a degree), the tamoxifen
will block the estrogen that got converted from the
testosterone from latching onto its receprtor sites.
This is a rough guess, but for a gram of test, I would
suggest:

1. 1/2 MG arimidex ED
2. 20mg Novaldex daily

This would be for optimal estrogen suppression.
This is a very rough estimate, as I have been
tinkering with anti-estrogens in view of my
up and coming test.cycle, and would appreciate
any criticisms of my rationale.

Godspeed

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Cornellius

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posted March 11, 2001 09:40 AM

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That�s interesting Fonz..
What about an arimidex/nolva/proviron combo??


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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 11, 2001 10:40 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by fatshit:
my goal is to have almost "zero" estrogen
and not to retain a pound of water.

Why would you even want to try and do such a thing? Estrogen is necessary for normal cognitive and reproductive functions as well as other things.

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Fonz

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posted March 11, 2001 11:27 AM

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Iron Game, as I'm sure you know, zero levels
of estrogen are impossible, we're just trying
to minimize estrogen.
Cornellius, good point on the proviron, I have to say
its pretty much the only oral I haven't experimented
with. I will have to get back to you on this issue.
But off-hand, you're proposed anti-estrogen cycle
has a lot of merit.....

Godspeed



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TwinGATs

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posted March 11, 2001 04:02 PM

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isn't 1/2 a pill EOD enough for 1000mg test a wk??


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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 11, 2001 04:10 PM

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Yes Fonz but we dont want someone becoming impotent do we. I am not convinced he is fully understands about estrogen though as he is going to be using suspension and wants no water retention, then simple thing leads to why suspension? Propionate would be enough for this goal, if he is already using it then enanthate or cypionate would be better for this purpose. Either he gets the retention or he uses something else, remember it is much of this water weight that makes suspension give that extra kick compared to esterified test. Unfortunately he cannot kill two birds with one stone.

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macrophage69alpha

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posted March 11, 2001 04:13 PM

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an interesting reccomendation from someone who has NEVER taken test before nor ARIMIDEX for that matter.

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Fonz

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posted March 11, 2001 06:03 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by macrophage69alpha:
an interesting reccomendation from someone who has NEVER taken test before nor ARIMIDEX for that matter.




Sorry Macro, you lose. During my dball cycles
I was taking 1/2mg ED with 20mg Novaldex.
So do me a favour and stay quiet......


Godspeed


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macrophage69alpha

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posted March 11, 2001 06:17 PM

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Really?

why dont you post a pic of your supposed mifgyne tablets?

While I hate to do this....

I have to say that I believe that you are full of shit


mr all orals

then jumps to 1000mg a week of deca

and now is planning a new cycle

1.75 grams of test a week

sorry just does not wash

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Fonz

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posted March 11, 2001 06:30 PM

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No offense, but since I said Deca was better
than test suddenly a lot of people start bashing
me. And as far as my cycles are concerned,
two relatives own pharmacies, so getting
the actual drugs is not a big problem. The only
steroid I have trouble acquiring is winstrol.
You only wish you could get what I can get, and
I'm getting tired of getting bashed because few
people have access to what I have access to.
You don't believe me? Well, in the grand scheme
of things that rates about a 1.0 on my
shit-o-meter.
And as far as the test is concerned I was
enquiring about front-loading, and
the subsequent debate made me change
from I sust ED to 1 sust EOD(833mg/week).
But you now what? I've had it with these
blatant posts regarding my truthfulness.
I just won't post my results anymore, and
forever refrain from using test if all I get
is a flame for being a bit innovative, and
not follow the status quo like a robot...

Godspeed

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macrophage69alpha

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posted March 11, 2001 07:59 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by Fonz:

The only
steroid I have trouble acquiring is winstrol.
You only wish you could get what I can get, and
I'm getting tired of getting bashed because few
people have access to what I have access to.

Really, I can barely contain my jealousy

BTW- that is certainly NOT the reason that you have drawn criticism from me.

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Fonz

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posted March 11, 2001 08:05 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by macrophage69alpha:
Really, I can barely contain my jealousy

BTW- that is certainly NOT the reason that you have drawn criticism from me.



Then why? Because I actually have ideas?

Godspeed


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macrophage69alpha

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posted March 11, 2001 08:16 PM

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Because that all they are..... IDEAS.

I do not fault your theorizing, you actually have some very good points. Though you are rather rude when people dont agree with you. While that is not really the point of my posts about the veracity of your claims, it is the reason for them. I believe that you are not ill intentioned. However I think, and I may be wrong, that you may have embellished or created truths (like your ability to get mifgyne OTC) in an effort to lend credence to those ideas.

peace

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Fonz

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posted March 11, 2001 09:01 PM

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If I've ever come across as blatantly rude,
I apologize then.

Godspeed


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Will B.Huge

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posted March 11, 2001 10:25 PM

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I know of guys taking a sust EOD and some deca and tding on armidex one time a week and getting desired results, low water retention, no sign of gyno wone guy is proned to gyno, so I will go with what I witnessed, one a week, pretty small to cut up too.


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