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 can GROWTH HORMONE help NERVE DAMAGE...
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Freak 
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from my surgeries i will have nerve damage(havent got test back yet, to show how much)in my foot...along w/ alot of rehab to try to get everything else working also.... DOES; GROWTH have any place in helping me w/ my healing process, nerve damage, new muscle growth or anything at all from surgery....????????????? at the least it COULDN'T hurt at all, could it????????? ------------------     | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 30 |
i believe it does i told my doctor that my back was jacked for 10 years and the only thing that would ever help because i trained alot was gh and deca, and sure enough out came the script pad and its been great ever since. what state are you from | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1952 |
I don't know how it could help with nerve damage. Nerves are stimulated by electrical currents. GH has no means to support or improve this. I was given GH after my pec tear to aid in muscle and tendon recovery. My doc worried slightly over nerve damage because he said any type of nerve damage would be permanant, I even signed a release relieving him of liability. Why does your doc think you will have nerve damage in the first place ?> BPP | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 24 |
unfortunatly, no. after puberty there are 2 types of cells that cease to perform mitosis(cell division). muscles and nerves. While GH can cause muscular mitosis It doesn't have the same effect on nerves. (just a note, AAS cause cellular hypertrophy, not an increase in number of cells.) | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 527 |
Kung.......excellent reply, nice to see an educated response to a question of that nature. This is why I am on this board. ------------------ | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2512 |
i knew id probaly hear that; and i know im just looking for a needle in a hay stack basicly... BIGPOPPAPUMP...well i do have alot of muscle and tendon healing too...just was wondering(a miracle maybe)about the nerves.. there is nerve damage already confirmed from my neurologist--(the extent is what ill find out from testing they'll do on the 19th, when ill find out if the damage is compressed or if the nerve is severed) ------------------ | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2512 |
can anyone tell me specifically what kind of doc: 1. to talk to about HGH, 2. to get HGH from... for whats happened, i have: well those are the main ones.. looking for any info that may help///thanks ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 106 |
This may seem pretty obvious, but the best choice is probably a sports medicine doctor. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 12 |
It does not matter what kind of doctor just as long as they do rejuvination (sp) therapy. I heard of plastic surgeon doing it Dr. Nadler in perticular. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 636 |
Wow dude, sounds like you got pretty messed up, hope you heal quick and get back in the game soon. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 392 |
HEY BRO. WHEN I WAS 18 DROPPED A 45LB PLATE ON MY FOOT AND COULDN'T FEEL MY TOES FOR 8 MONTHS. I THINK GH WILL HELP YOU HEAL, BUT NOT AS MUCH AS A POSITIVE ATTITUDE WILL. I'D TAKE THE GH IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT, OR TRY AND TALK YOUR DOC INTO PERSCRIBING IT (YEAH RIGHT - ITS WORTH A TRY ANYWAY). GOOD LUCK. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 106 |
As the others said, nerves do not regenerate. One other thing: orthopedic doctors are usually really anti-AS. I tried to get some after shoulder surgery and the guy freaked out and started talking about the number of people on gear that end up at orthopedic surgeons. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 30 |
i went to a sports med doc and my workmans comp pays for mine, if you live near dallas email me and i will be glad to set you up with him. | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2512 |
sorry im around the tampa, florida area. i mentioned growth to the ortho. today and he simply stated dont know not his field; he's pretty cool about everything and already said im at least a month a head of what he would have ever expected...he knew i was all gassed up--when this all started and never frowned me upon it..... so what are the ways you explain it to your doc's that you need it and want help looking into it...???????? ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 106 |
If you're over 30, it's not that hard to talk a doc into prescribing GH. Just start citing the research out there that shows GH levels declining appreciably as you age, and that part of the reason that younger people heal more quickly is higher GH levels. GH is not a controlled substance, so it's not that big of a deal for a doctor to supplement your own body's production. | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2512 |
over 30, shit im only 22!!!! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 106 |
ok, then tell him that midgetry or dwarfism runs in your family just kidding...! | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 392 |
OKAY RANGER, I HAVE TO DISAGREE WITH EVERYONE WHO SAYS NERVES DON'T REGENERATE. I HAVE PERSONALLY EXPERIENCED NERVE DAMAGE THAT HEALED. IT TOOK A LONG ASS TIME, BUT IT HEALED. ALSO, THE ONLY THING THAT PREVENTS NERVES FROM HEALING COMPLETELY IS SCAR TISSUE FORMATION, AS IS THE CASE WITH A SEVERED SPINAL CHORD. IF I AM CORRECT, HGH HELPS PREVENT SCAR TISSUE FORMATION. ANYWAYS, I THINK A TRIP TO DALLAS WOULD BE WORTH IT IF YOUR INSURANCE WILL PAY FOR IT. JESUS, YOU'LL BE IN HEAVEN. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 392 |
FROM http://www.sonic.net/melissk/schwartz.html
quote: YEAH BRO, YOUR NERVES WILL HEAL (AS ITS PERIPHERAL DAMAGE) PEACE - GET WELL SOON | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2512 |
big j---wheres the cindy pic??  WHY DALLAS--im missing something... ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 392 |
quote: BACK BY POPULAR DEMAND ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 106 |
Ok, this is coming from a doctor that I just asked: nerve cells never replicate again after you have finished developing, but nerves can use new pathways for sending signals. growth hormone is unlikely to influence this process | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2512 |
bump again, more info... ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 83 |
If it has happened recently you could have a lot of healing left and feeling to be coming back. That's because nerves definitely can become tramatized as well as damaged permanently. What I'm trying to say is give it time and you'll get a lot more back than you can see right now. I herniated a disk in my lower back. I had to live with it for two years before they operated on me and took out the pieces that were irritation my spinal cord. I had numbness in both of my my legs that I don't have now. I'm not saying it regenerated -- as others have stated that's impossible -- but what I am saying is that a lot of that numbness was not due to 'dead' nerves but rather tramatized ones. So look up and have hope. Time heals a lot, bro. BTW, I've heard of a study recently of treating recently severed nerves with something called macrophage. It apparently will completely heal severed nerves if treated quick enough -- within hours. Just a FYI. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 463 |
hmmmmm....I just found this article about 20 minutes ago, I don't know if it will totally answer your question or not, but I will post it anyway. http://link.springer.de/link/service/journals/00726/bibs/0019001/00190363.htm MR. BMJ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 286 |
First of all, nerves do regenerate. The only problem is, is that they take a long ass time to do so. The problem that occurs is that if you nerve is damaged for too long, the muscle will start to athrophy, but not the same type that occurs from disuse, fibrous scar tissue fills in where the muscle once was. This is non-contractile tissue, just takes up space. Just to put into perspective, it takes about 1 month for a nerve to rengerate 1-2mm of length. When there is nerve damage, and I am assuming that you have a severed nerve, due to surgey, the axon of the nerve dies, and then needs to be regerated. The healing process isn't as easy as a cut in the skin. Think of having a cut on your wrist, and in order to heal all the skin on your arm must first die, and then be removed, then regeneration occurs. This is how the nerves heal themselves. The axon's of nerves in the leg are very long. As for nerve regeration, there has been one drug suggested to me for my nerve damage, and it is the drug Hydragen (i know this is spelled wrong, I will look up correct spelling and e-mail to you). It's medical application for improving memory has just been approved in the US. Studies have been done with it, to help patients with spinal cord injuries. It has been show to be successful. Unfortantely, I haven't found any studies besides the ones on the central nerves system. You have peripheal nerve damage, so who knows how well it will work. I haven't tried it yet, but figure it is worth a shot. What do you have to lose? It may make you a bit smarter. GH won't help too much with nerve regernartion. I don't think that there are that many hormone recptors on nerves. I am not sure how the blood supply works to the nerves but I know that it is diffrent than other tissues of the body. That is why diseases of the nervous system are not fought off by the immune system because the white blood cells don't make it too the neroun. Hormones that travel in the blood might have some similar problem. My best advice for you is too go out and get therapy done on the injured leg. Go buy one of those electic stim units, and use it everday to prevent that scar tissue from forming in the muscle. From increased activity you will send more electricity to the injured nerve, speeding up the healing process, and you don't want the server athrophy to set in! |
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posted March 08, 2001 07:38 PM