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 IF YOU THINK YOU'RE GETTING ALL THE PROP YOU SHOOT YOU 'RE WRONG!CHECK THIS OUT
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| Author | Topic: IF YOU THINK YOU'RE GETTING ALL THE PROP YOU SHOOT YOU 'RE WRONG!CHECK THIS OUT | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 447 |
let's say you inject 100mg of prop eod.you would think you're getting 350 mgs/week,wrong! you 'll never have more than 200mgs of test in the bllod stream.half life of prop is 3 days so: day1 100=100 day3 50 100=150 day5 25 50 100=175 day7 12 25 50 100=187 day9 6 12 25 50 100=193 day11 3 6 12 25 50 100=196 day13 1 3 6 12 25 50 100=197 day15 0 1 3 6 12 25 50 100=197 so the peak is 197mgs. by the way if you shoot 250mgs/week of sustanon you will have a peak of more than 300mgs after a few weeks(check out the roid calculator). So 100 mgs of prop eod is way less than 1 amp of sus a week.that is why it gives less water retention, there is a lot less of test in your blood. sad but true.    | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 447 |
would like some feedback | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 2509 |
yeah but i like the results... ------------------  | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 953 |
iam with the "ROIDRANGER"........later ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1251 |
The prop seems to be working for me. of course Im shooting 145mg ED  | ||
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Guru     
Posts: 5617 |
Its not new and its not only prop, 250mg sus isnt 250mg of test. Ester take up weight and the release times play a role as well. ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 953 |
ya like 100mgs of test is like 72mgs of raw test...but test susp is all raw test......later ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 610 |
good post. I made up a scale similar to that with 400mg per week of bolderone (EQ). Everything that you take will have an accumilation effect. I believe the bolderone leveled out in 5 weeks at like 535 and stayed that way till you stopped your injection. -Stew | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 447 |
hey slopain,what i'm trying to say is that 250mg of sus will not result in 250mgs of test in the first week of course, but after continuos use the level of test in the blood stream will be more than 300mgs as long as you keep injecting once a week. Whit the prop you appearently inject 350mgs a week but this turns out in having less test in the bloodstream than what you 're injecting every week(200mgs infact). opposite with sus since you'll have more test in the blood stream than you 're injectin every week. So prop in underdosed by itself. that's why the terapeutic dose of sus is only 250mgs every month and the terapeutic dose of prop is 50mg twice a week. and that is why you have less water retention,just cause you have less test in you. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 217 |
what's the half-life of enathate? 6 or 7 days right? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 68 |
Who the hell only shoots prop every third day?? You shoot prop ED. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1082 |
What is the website (roid calculator)? -TG | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2310 |
Hmmmmm, Ok thanks for the help, hehe ------------------ E2's Steroid Pictures Pictures of many different drugs. AJC' Steroid Profiles Profiles of many different steroids 2Thick's Injection Procedures Site Complete with Pictures and Diagrams! Finaplix by Mr H A complete guide to Fina | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 626 |
FENER, you seem to have the conception that the total amount of drug you inject will become immediately available. This is not the case. In the case of oil-based steroids, the oil is acting as a depot that will release the drug at a given rate determined by the partition coefficient of the drug and its vehicle (oil/water). Esters that favor the aqueous system will enter the tissue/blood at a faster rate than drugs that favor the lipid phase. This is the reason propionate has a shorter half-life than say decanoate; it is simply released faster. After entry into the body, I would assume, the test esters are de-esterified at the same rate. Imagine two cups of water, both contain the same amount of water. Dump one in a bowl and slowly pour the other into another bowl. The amount in each bowl is the same, the only difference is the time it took to get from the cup to the bowl. The time it takes to get into the system (blood/tissues) is a major factor in efficacy, since two equal amounts of drug that enter at different times will give different blood levels. Propionate will give higher blood levels than decanoate, even if used at equal doses, and also accounting for ester weight. This is one reason that test undecanoate sucks. It favors the lipid phase too much, so even if very high doses are put into the body, it still trickles out drug at a slow rate. The body responds to steroids in a dose dependant manner; the more drug (in the blood/tissue) the greater the response. The body can't "see" what is in an oil depot in a gluteal muscle, only what has entered into the system and bound to receptors. So while propionate may be metabolized faster, it also gives higher blood levels which is more available drug at a time, for the receptors. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 447 |
ok cockdezl, good point.Considering what you said about esters,could you show me (approximately) the ACTIVE mgs of test in the blood stream with 100mg of prop eod and with 2amps of sus a week? i mean when the level has already reached a peak. i want to figure out how much ACTIVE mgs you reach with one and with the other to really compare the 2.thanks | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 452 |
i don't know if im the only one that noticed but what you have listed on prop reaching a plateau of 197mg which is calcualted out eod just by what you put every time you shoot prop 100eod 300mg/wk it will be about 600/wk where as sust 250/wk will build up to300? prop looks like a better way to go just by what you posted | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 447 |
juicer56 i don't get it. explain please | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 447 |
cockdezl, i think you reached a good point but i really would like to know , in your opinion, the amounts of ACTIVE mgs of test in your blood resulting from prop(100mg eod) and sus (500mg/w) use. |
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posted March 07, 2001 06:42 PM