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 This is for 2Thick... You don't need to go Juice crazy!
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 186 |
For those of you who are doing research for your first cycle, here is a bit of advice. Many of you see the amount of shit many of the guys on this board are on and want to do the same, thinking either you will look like them or see similiar results. This is flawed logic. Many of the guys on here have been working out for a long time and know what they are doing. Many have been using steroids for years. They are also just plain bigger than you and farther along in their physiological development. For those who are planning to do 1000mg of sostanon with 40mg of dbol a day with 400mg deca and so on and so forth, chill the fuck out. These dosages are quite unnecesary for you. You will probably just fuck yourself up. Learn how you react to gear, and how to deal with anysides you may encounter. No one learns to swim by beeing thrown off a boat in the middle of the ocean. Here is a little example. My friend wanted to start his first cycle. He was planning on a shit load of gear. i convinced him to mello out. He is on enanthate 400mg\week for 8 weeks and dbol 25mg\day for 6 weeks. Well guess what, he is only on his 9th day and his bench went from 185x5 to 200x7. no shit. And guess what newbies, this is from the dbol only, the test hasn't kicked in yet. he will see that around the beggining of week three. So take it slow.    | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 365 |
good point-bump ------------------  | ||
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Mutant   
Posts: 3105 |
True. I think my first 5 cycles were with a single roid and very much less than eveybody here suggest. Now I was only 15 when I started and I did not pratice the clean out theory. I took juice for 2 years straight without getting off. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 186 |
I think newbies get the wrong idea sometimes when they read this board. they don't understand that they don't need to take a 5 kinds of juice and 50mgs\day of dbol and wash it down with puree'd bull testicals to see growth. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 186 |
bump. | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 19 |
bump | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 648 |
my 1st 3 cycles were with just one roid as well. Then I started stacking some good shit like Primo/Deca/Sost and so forth. I agree you need to get used to how it makes you feel and act. Been off now for a while and I am a much more pleasant person now! | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 20 |
What a pitty the newbies will read this and think that it is all a load of bullshit and that the more you take, the more you will grow. --Well newbies give this a try, take a coke bottle, a jug and 5 litres of water. Now fill the jug with the water and then proceed to fill the empty coke bottle.MMMMMMMM cant get all the water into the bottle? Well the same holds true for the number of receptors that you have, get my point?--- | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 939 |
good post....and purple...perfect example! PA | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 403 |
GOOD POST BUMP THIS AND SEND IT TO THE TOP.. ------------------ | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 7117 |
This is music to my ears  Good post! | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 348 |
great post!! This gets a bump from me | ||
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Guru   
Posts: 5578 |
I AGREE | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 2048 |
Good Point! WCP ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 668 |
THANK YOU!!! | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 26 |
Good post, a friend of mine did a Anavar only cycle of just 15mg a day and it shredded him up, made him hard and his strength took off too. Be patient fellas. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 697 |
I knew 2thick would like this one. Hey buddy we are not the only ones that beleive this after all : ) Luca | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 433 |
I've been there. My first cycle was too heavy and, as a result, I felt the consequences. Take it easy. No need to gain 40 lbs. in one cycle. Good post! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1366 |
That's great. But you will only get one "first" cycle. You might as well make it count. Blast those virgin receptors! | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 13 |
BUMP | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 48 |
Weeks 1-4 Dbol 25-30mg 1-4 Test E 500 mgs 4-12 Eq 300 mgs Is this over doing it for a first timer?? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 25 |
bump for other newbies | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 47 |
i agree most people do not think of diet as the most important when taking juice. They simply think they can take a bunch of drugs and turn into ronnie coleman. Learn your diet and body to a T and then begin to use roids to help out. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 447 |
That was a very good post. So good that I feel kinda bad about disagreeing with it (Ill get over it). I started with small cycles and I agree that new users make great gains on small amounts. However, the more you take the more receptors your body will produce and the more you will grow. Some people wont grow no matter how much shit they take. For those with reasonable genetics - the more you take the bigger you get. I see plenty of huge guys that dont take near the amount of drugs I do. But, they arent as strong and hard, and they will never be able to compete. I only advocate using heavy cycles IF you plan on persuing bodybuilding or another sport competitively, AND have reasonable genetics to begin with. If you dont meet this criteria - I suggest small, safe cycles, or none at all. And every bastard on this board that does gear needs to have their blood checked regularly. Im tired of folks telling me I take too much shit, then admitting they dont get their own blood work done because they assume they are safe. I just had my blood work done after 4 weeks on 4grams per week and Im healthy as can be. I have met plenty of sick fuckers on much less gear. Use your heads! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 223 |
Good post Bro, I agree!!! HEY WHAT'S WRONG WIYH LEARNING HOW TO SWIM BY BEING THROWN IN?????? THAT'S HOW I LEARNED....LOL.... ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 119 |
Very worthy BUMP!!! Keep this atop for all newbies to read! ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 601 |
I'm gonna have to side with Gearseaker on a couple of his points. Sometimes you could increase your dosage and increase the results without any increase in negative side effects. You also need to know what to take with a heavy cycle in order to combat the negative effects. For instnace, you milk thistle, LIV 50, Evening Primrose Oil, for the liver, ALA for insulin sensitivity, Cranberry extract and 1-2gallons of water per day for the kidneys' protection, Panthoenic Acid, tanning bed, 3 showers per day, antibacterial soap, for acne, Fincar and nizarol shampoo to combat hair loss, taking Armidex, Proviron, etc. at the right dossages to combat conversion to other less desireable hormones, HCG and Cyclofenil and clomid to ease the transition from exogenous hormone to natural, diet, calorie intake, the list goes on... I thought I knew it all when I started posting on the board. But I've found out that the main thing that the newbie needs to do is research, look, listen, and learn. There's more knowlege here in other Elite members and in our archives of posts than on any other board. The more you hang around, the more you'll know how to cycle, what to cycle, and what to cycle with. -Stew | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 447 |
Thanks stew - I didnt mention the auxilary drugs. With regular blood screens and smart use of auxilary drugs you can all but eliminate side effects - or, at least know what affect the drugs are having on your system. Again, I dont advocate huge cycles for everyone. If its to improve your physique for fun - smaller cycles will save you cash if nothing else. If your looking at competing you may as well go for it. At this point bigger cycles make bigger athletes. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 186 |
bump | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 317 |
Just wait until E2 sees this thread....... ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 43 |
Boy....Let's all bend over and let 2Thick pop us one by one in the ass.....I agree with this post to a point, and that is...no " Newbie " should jack a gram of test per week for a first cycle...AND I by no means advocate a " Deca only Wonder Cycle "!!! I am, and always will be the " Hit the Recepters Hard " advocate for a first cycle...alot comes into play of course, but there is nothing wrong with 500mg's of Sus for 8 weeks, combined with 25 to 30mg's of dbol here and there...add the EQ, drop the Deca....Fucking Whammo!!! Hugeness...!!! The body can, and will adapt to moderate, or even high dosages of test. And let's face it, we know the sides before we start, and the preventive measures are easy, and inexpensive. You have to ask yourself when you step into the game gentleman, what price are you willing to pay to stay and play??? The add a little more theory as you progress in each new cycle won't get ya there, unless you have " God-Like Genetics " and most do not...Yes, there are those who progress well off small amounts of AS, but they are the exception to the case....!!! Stay small, remain wanting....plan big, become a GOD...Simple Game on 2Thick...Heh heh heh BZR | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 186 |
i am not saying that a beginner should not stack some test, dbol, and eq. What i am saying is that begginners shouldn't go fucking crazy with the drugs and overlook hard work and diet. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1426 |
I AGREE. FOR YOUR FIRST CYCLE I WOULD NOT GO OVERBOARD WITH THE DOSAGES AND SEE HOW YOU REACT TO GEAR. GOOD POST BRO! M18 ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 186 |
up for beginners. last time. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 88 |
So what would use guys suggest as the best single AS cycle for the first time user? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 963 |
thats is very true, & good post, BUT i am different, i need high dosages naturally. my first cycle was brazilian durateston500mgs/week,EQ300mg, dbol at 35mg/day. my gains sucked!! but you make a great point. ------------------ |
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posted March 06, 2001 05:43 PM
