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 Gaining muscle & losing fat w/DNP - possible or too good to be true?
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 186 |
I'm gonna be getting my DNP real soon, and I was planning on going 7 on, 7 off till I drop around 15-20 lbs of fat. I'm gonna do 200-300mg/day of DNP, and I'm also gonna run Primo @ 400mg/week and Winny @ 50mg/day. I'll eat around 500 cal above maintainence. Will I be able to lose fat, gain muscle, and minimize the typical DNP sides (e.g. profuse sweating, extreme lethargy, etc.) with this regimen? Will this plan actually work? Thanks in advance. ------------------     | ||
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Freak 
Posts: 2266 |
I would strongly suggest that you rethink this cycle friend. DNP should be used for an average of 7-10 days tops (Thanks Amp) and will also leave you feeling very lethargic. Your training will be poor and intensity will fall as a result. Not a good time to try and increase muscle. Use the dnp alone for 7- 10 days take a week break (Thanks Macro) and then hit the cycle. Peace ------------------ E2's Steroid Pictures Pictures of many different drugs. AJC' Steroid Profiles Profiles of many different steroids 2Thick's Injection Procedures Site Complete with Pictures and Diagrams! Finaplix by Mr H A complete guide to Fina | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 26 |
Never tried DNP Would like to, but is it true that the more carbs you eat the hotter you will feel? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 483 |
Iron Game is right. Even if you eat above maintenance it will create such a huge energy deficiency that you cannot gain muscle. The lethargic feeling you get towards the middle to end of the cycle will leave you wondering if you will even make it to the gym since you will feel so tired. I just coasted through some workouts on a low intensity high rep level so that I would at least still be working my muscle. If you want to gain muscle and lose fat DNP is not the route to go. If you want to maintain muscle and lose loads of fat then do your research on DNP and go for it. | ||
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Freak
Posts: 2266 |
From what users of dnp have told me yes it is true | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 483 |
Eating high carbs while on DNP is like throwing gasoline on a fire. You will already be hot but the high carbs will take it up a few notches. Remember the release of energy produces heat, DNP causes energy to be released at a rapid rate. Carbs are such an easy energy source for your body to burn that it will use them up and burn them at a higher rate than burning up your fat stores. This is why I believe you end up feeling temporarily hotter. Some of us experience extreme carb cravings. On night 5 of my first cycle I woke up at 3am and ate 5 bowls of cereal. I felt like a blast furnace after that. It's amazing how fast your body will process the energy. I still lost 10 pounds in that first 7 days even though I threw caution to the wind when it came to eating. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 104 |
DNP is some serious stuff. I recommend you do a lot of research and get way more educated before embarking upon a cycle of it. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 85 |
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the dangerous sides are really only likely when someone takes four times the recommended amount based on their bodyweight. So judging from someones weight an amount of 200 to 300mg/day for seven days isn't that detrimental to your health right? Don't flame me, it's just what I read. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 483 |
That should be a very safe dosage at that level. One guy on here took 200mg of DNP for 4 weeks. He didn't change his diet and had no sides. He ended up losing about 6-7 pounds. Can't remember who it was though. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 322 |
quote: yes thats why its hard to try to gain muscle while using it. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 186 |
The thing is, I'm already 3 weeks into my present Primo-Winny cycle. I've been running those with T4 and alternating Clen/ECA, along with extra cardio and reduced calories... it's just not working too well. It's seems as though my body is only good at one thing, either gaining (both fat & muscle) or losing (both fat & muscle) weight... i.e. I personally find it really tough to lose fat and gain muscle (or at least get more defined) simultaneously. That's why I'm eager about using some low dose DNP along with these AS I'm on. AMP, you mentioned you read about some dude who did 200mg/day DNP for 4 weeks straight with no sides... if I were to do something similar, couldn't I theoretically lose the flab slowly with the DNP & put on muscle with the aid of the Primo & Winny? What I'm thinking is that at such a low dose, the DNP should (I hope) have a minimal impact on my energy levels, allowing me to train hard, while at the same time upping my BMR enough to shed the fat. Slightly unorthadox I know, but is there a chance that it'll work? Thanks. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 235 |
i am on my 5th day of dnp.. feel ill, extremely tired, i walk like a zombie at work.. as far as work outs, i ouble up on the ecas. but there is no way in hell i can see someone gaining muscle while on dnp..sorry.. i just hope these lethargy affects goes away in few days when i get off.. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 483 |
Andre - I hear yah. Last month when I was on DNP on my first cycle I made it to the gym twice. I have a very flexible job so I left work early everyday and went to bed. I was so tired I didn't feel like doing anything. The lethargy will go away immediately about 1 day after you stop taking it. Try eating a piece of fruit everyday too, that should help to restore your liver glycogen levels and you may feel somewhat better. As far as the guy who wants to lose fat and gain muscle this is something that is very hard to do. Focus on one or the other and do it 100%. Very few people have figured out the right combo for their body to both gain muscle and lost fat at the same time. It is very tricky so the best thing to do is not get too fat when you bulk, then spend 5-8 weeks doing a cycle where cardio is the mainstay, clean diet, and some type of anabolic to help you hold muscle. Primo has been working great for me. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 235 |
amp, about that fruit thing, i discovered it 2 days ago.. eating grapefruit and oranges helps. also i am trying to eat low carb, i guess, thats why i dont sweat alot.. i mean i am hot all the time, but i dont soak my sheets at night. (600mgs)see my problem is i am pleased with the results, so i wanna do a second one. after a week break..but i was gonna start my eq/winny/fina cycle in one week, so my second dnp cycle falls on the second week of my cycle.. i dont wanna fuck my cycle up, but then again i need to get my abs. so what do u think? if u say the lethargy afftects goes away in couple of days, it shouldnt affect my cycle too too much.. its a 10 week cycle..i dunno.. what do u think? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 186 |
AMP: Are you taking my DNP dose under consideration? You think that 200mg/day is gonna make me so lethargic, that I won't be able to train? From everything I've read so far, the lack of energy and lethargy occur at higher dosages... like at 400mg or above. Who's the guy who did it for 4 weeks @ 200mg/day? His experience would be helpful. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1197 |
I took 200mg a day for 8 days, and never felt better!! I combined it with eca everyday. I felt like I was on methamphetamine's. I kepst my carb intake moderate and fat intake very low. I also did heavy intense cardio(35min 5 days of the 8 at my maximum heart rate). My workouts were never that intense.I was strong as hell. I feel like I am crashing now on the eca alone. My bodyweight went from 239-226, and I am still losing!!222 as of today(probably do to t-3 and t-4 conversion speeding up again). Nonetheless, two weeks may not be the way to go. In a couple of weeks, I am going to do it again for 8 days same way. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 750 |
Cuts and Amp I'm the one who did DNP for 4 weeks at 200mg/day. Took 25mcgs T3 throughout and did not diet. Lost about 6.5lbs of fat. I use DNP as a bridge between cycles. You will not feel DNP at 200mg/day, but trust me it does wonders. You could also stack Clen with the T3, so to minmize hunger, which wasn't really a problem at 200mg/day. That was my experience , what questions do you guys have about low dosages for extended periods of time? Godspeed | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 186 |
Vdevil: That's exactly what I'm talking about man! I don't want to take DNP and feel like shit for a week... I'd like to live a normal life while "on." Low dose DNP may not work as fast or dramatically, but from what I've learned, it seems like the best way to do it if one doesn't want to disrupt his life too much. Were you on roids at the same time? Did you make/is it possible to make muscle gains while on DNP @ 200mg/day? Oh yeah, that weight you lost... muscle or fat or both? Thanks. Fonz: I don't have access to T3, and I don't think I'll do the 200mg/day DNP for four weeks straight, but rather 7 days on, 7 off, 7 on, etc. until I lose around 20 lbs of fat. What do you think about using AS to gain while on DNP? Any other tips? Thanks bro. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 750 |
Forget about gaining muscle while on DNP. DNP funnels EXCESS KCALS to heat production so muscle gain is highly improbable. The only way I see DNP working for muscle gain/fat loss would be: week 1: 200mg DNP/day+some gear week 2: A lot of fast acting steroids+food week 3: repeat week 1 week 4: repeat week 2 and so on. I would use dball/test.suspension/Fina in week 2.4.... and winny on week 1,3,...... Godspeed | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1197 |
Hey cuts, I think the same way. I didnt lose any muscle on 200mg a day. My strength was actually a little higher due to the speed-like effects of eca combined with it. I had a little sweating at night, but no big deal. Just turn the heat down a little. The way I used it was very comfortable and it didn't interrupt my training. As far as using gear while on, I think it is a great idea as it will help with protein synthesis. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1427 |
you guys are being pussies. DNP is not near as scary as everyone makes it out to be. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 186 |
I know some of ya'll might disagree with my plan, but I gotta try it. I'm gonna go with 200mg/day DNP every other week, with simultaneous Primo & Winny, plenty of cals, intense lifting, and 3-4 AM cardio sessions. I don't know if it'll work or not, but if I have to err with DNP, I'd rather underdose. I'll keep ya'll updated as to my progress. Now all I need is that damn DNP! I hope I didn't get scammed... ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 483 |
On my next cutting cycle I am going to try the 200mg for 4 weeks rather than 600mg for one week to see how that works. Thanks Fonz. My wife will kill me if I start soaking the sheets again. The sweat was so bad it would soak right into her side of the bed so she would be lying in a puddle of my sweat. That's why I ended up on the couch most nights  |
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posted March 06, 2001 04:43 PM