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 somebody set me straight on clomid...PLEASE!
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Cool Novice 
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I am planning a cycle of deca, and possibly sus. What is the deal with clomid, I have everything from taking it all the way through, to a week before your cycle ends, to waiting two weeks afterward???? Please, somebody straighten me out on this!!! thanks.     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 161 |
Unless you want to use it as an anti estrogen use it after you cycle(2wks) to get your boys back up 100 ed the 1st wk 50 ed after that ------------------ | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 5765 |
 Testosterone production begins at the hypothalamus,which scans blood levels of estrogens,androgens and other pertinent hormones.In a presence of low androgens and estrogens the hypothalamus will produce leutenizing-hormone-releasing-hormone(LHRH)which in turn stimulates the pituitary to produce leutenizing hormone(LH).LH then signals the leydig cells in the testicles to begin producing testosterone.Hence the Hypothalamic Pituitary Testicular Axis(more commonly referred to as H-P-T-A),as production is ran in that particular order.Now on to the clomid... Clomid is a selective estrogen receptor modulator(much like nolvadex,only their binding capacities are more aggressive in seperate areas).Clomid stimulates L-H-R-H/LH production by binding to ESTROGEN receptors on the hypothalamus and pituitary,thus giving the illusion of a low presence of circulating estrogen.Note the key word here-ESTROGEN.CLOMID DOES NOT BIND ANDROGEN.Therefore,on a cycle of moderate to high amounts of ANDROGENS,clomid will have no effect whatsoever on endogenous testosterone production,as we are in a state of ANDROGENIC inhibition.It's post cycle,when blood levels of androgens begin to normalize and the typical estrogenic rebound/lag occurs,that clomid is able to re-initialize this process of testosterone production.Hope this clears up how clomid works and why to save it for post cycle,unless you're using it as an anti-estrogen... How do we know when to administer clomid therapy,and how much should we use to get the desired effects?First you have to figure out the activity life/clearance time of your particular ester.They don't have to be completely cleared from your system,just enough that androgen levels are within normal to high normal ranges.For instance sust's longest acting and most potent ester,the undecanoate ester clears your system in roughly 3-4 weeks.So beginning clomid therapy 3 weeks after your last injection would be ideal.This is the pattern I would run my clomid in... Day 1)300mgs...2 tabs every 4 hours or so.This will drive up blood levels of the drug for an immediate "therapeutic" response(one that would normally take many consecutive days of usage to be reached)and get the drug working aggressively towards re-initializing endogenous hormonal production. Days 2-11)100mgs/day(bothtabs can be taken together now,as it's half life is so long it will make no difference... Days 12-21)50mgs/day... Day 22)DONE! | ||
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Cool Novice
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Holy shit bro, thanks!!! I believe that may have covered it! :-) | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 32 |
Hey huck are you sure you're not Bill Roberts??? lol Anyways...I've used clomid all the way through my cycle before and it worked well. It definately works faster loading up on 300mg coming off your cycle. My recent cycle I used 500i.u. hcg/day while jucing. Today I started with 300mg clomid but still on morning only orals. LM |
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posted March 05, 2001 11:18 PM