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phiend

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posted March 05, 2001 07:52 PM

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There are a lot of posts with questions about PGF2, but they are always the same. I have used PGF2 and here are some guidelines I suggest and experiences of mine. If you guys have anything else to add from your own experiences, then feel free. Please don't respond with something that you read about by Darkham or anyone else. No one really knows what PGF2 is like until they give it a whirl.
1) PGF2 is not a joke. If you're gonna use it, get ready for some pain and discomfort. I have a very high pain threshold, and I could bearly stand PGF2.
2) The injections are painful, but bearable. My worst injection was actually in the front delt. I didn't have too much pain with the bi's.
3) DO NOT INJECT IN THE ABS, unless you're a crazy mofo. PGF2 causes the contraction of the smooth muscles, and the closer to those muscles that you inject, the more intense the cramping will be.
4) The abdominal cramping is the most discomfort I have ever experienced. You feel constipated for about a half hour, and then you shit water. The pain subsides after about an hour.
5) You're going to feel sick almost all day long when you inject. I always felt like I had a fever, and I had to tell people I had mono.
6) It's hard to eat food or even hold down food. I through up a bunch of times, and I never had an appetite.
7) It's good to take creatine with PGF2.
8) Do Not take aspirin or advil or alleve with PGF2 to kill the pain. Those substances also kill prostaglandins which is the whole point of PGF2 -- to put prostaglandins in your muscles.
9) PGF2 does take some time to get results from. Don't give up after three days, because you didn't get 2" in your arms.
10) The lats hurt like hell to inject into, because it's a very tender muscle.
11) You can use insulin needles for the injections. In fact, don't use another size; it's a waste.
12) The more injections, the merrier. If you inject five times a day, you're gonna grow more than two times a day.
13) Try to not workout the muscle you shoot on the same day you shoot it.
14) I don't recommend using PGF2 with gear, because the pumps will be too intense. That doesn't mean you can't do it though; I know people that have done it and it has worked.
15) If you get results from PGF2, they're pretty much permanent. They won't fade away like Synthol, unless you stop working out.
16) PGF2 does burn fat pretty well. It burns fat locally quite well, and also has a minimal effect of fatburn throughout the whole body.
17) PGF2 absorbs through the skin, so be careful with it. Don't let you wife even touch it.
18) You can pretty much inject in every muscle in you body, as long as you're ready for pain. I still say stay away from the abs, and definitely don't be a moron and go injecting into you penis. That would be the worst pain ever, and it's too close to the abdominals. I actually heard of someone doing this, and he ended up going to the hospital.
19) Brand name is Lutalyse and it goes for around $30 a bottle in Mexico, but you gonna need about two or three bottles if you want to see any results.
20) If you're reading this and you have no idea what PGF2 is, it's a prostaglandin that you inject locally to get growth in a specific muscle. It works, but it's a bitch; it doesn't fade away like Esiclene or Synthol.
21) It's a hassle.
22) People who have used it have mixed emotions on whether or not it is worth it. Personally, I don't think it is. It is only worth it, if you don't have a life and you have time to inject five times a day and you miraculously don't feel the side effects that it gives.

So, there's my 2 cents. This is just my opinion and experience with it. Everyone says different things about it, but not that many people have used it yet to reach certainty. I'm sure I wasn't able to spit out everything I wanted to, but it's hard to organize my thoughts on this subject, because I have so much to say about it. Sorry I was so incoherent. I'll add more later, if I think of anything else. All I have to say is that if you're gonna do it then commit. Don't half ass it and skip days, cuz you'll be wasting it. However, I wish you the best of luck with it. It can do great things if you have the balls. Enjoy the pain, Iron Brothers.


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WC

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posted March 05, 2001 08:02 PM

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well- I am on day 5 so far. My only question relating to PGF2 was the use with slin at the same time. I am not experiencing any cramping, but I do get the water shits. I DO inject about 8 times per day so far. I just shot 3/4cc in each delt about 1 hour ago, and they hurt, but not anywhere near what I cant stand. My delts have swollen WAY up, as this is the only places I have shot so far. I had really big delt/traps to begin with, but now it is way unproportioned, and I will hit the arms tomorrow. I get the chills, I dont get hot from it. I feel lite headed as well. All in all, not too bad yet. I used to use 45-50lbs for strict lateral raises-arms str8 out. Today I had to use 15's, and could only muster up about 5 total sets. I was pumped so big I couldnt belive my eyes. I had about 3 seperate times people come up and ask how to get their shoulders big! I love it so far. If the pain gets worse-so be it. Hittin tris starting tomorrow.


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ultragainz

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posted March 05, 2001 08:06 PM

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yuck bro! yuck!!!...water shits.......later

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phiend

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posted March 05, 2001 08:19 PM

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WC,
How are you doing your shot rotation? Are you rotating muscles or just spending a week at a time on each muscle group? I did a rotation for my tri's, bi's, chest, and delts, but I think it's better to just stick with one muscle for a week or two, then move on. Also, do you shoot your front delts or just mid and rear?


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WC

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posted March 05, 2001 08:53 PM

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I do 4 shot in each delt per day- yes I am going 1 week per part. I hit the front delts 1st, side next, then rear 2x to really get it going in the rear. I am gonna hit tris the same whay- 3 shots per day in em.


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Parabellum

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posted March 05, 2001 08:58 PM

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17) PGF2 absorbs through the skin, so be careful with it. Don't let you wife even touch it.

If so can't you just rub it on? Has anyone tried this?


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phiend

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posted March 05, 2001 10:46 PM

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Parabellum,
Actually, you can just rub it on, but it's not effective in the same manner that it is when injected. I know someone that rubbed it on their stomach to burn fat, and apparently it worked a little bit, but nothing too noticeable; the sides were still felt though.


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candidus

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posted March 06, 2001 01:54 AM

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great post. bump!


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swol

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posted March 06, 2001 02:19 AM

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Here is my experience. hope it helps you all.
i posted this last summer...This is my own experience. as we all know everyones results differ.
History:
well where do i start? the shit is great. you get results without working out on that muscle. i have been on for a little over a month now. only shooting biceps and shoulders. started with .25cc per muscle and gradually increased about .25cc per week. currently im shooting 1.15cc per muscle 3x a day.

Size:
i took some measurements of my biceps before and after. in 1 month each arm has come up .40 of an inch, thats great considering that it took me 7 months naturally to bring my arms up .60 inch.

FAT:
i dont know how much i lost in my waist but by the looks of it i do know i did lose a lot of fat over all my body. as we all heard before; i lost most fat near my injection sites. (sholders, traps, neck (odd but true) biceps, triceps, and forarms. and a little in the upper chest area). the rest of my body has lost fat but at a slower rate.

Strength:
my strenght has dropped (but thats normal while you are on because my injected muscle always feel fatigue and sore.) let me put it this way, if you inject everyday; as long as you are on it, you feel like your arms are getting a 24 hour a day 7 days a week workout. thats why strenght drops. they fatigue so quick. but thats only temp. once you finish doing it, in time your strenght should go up higher than it was before (so i heard, i still have not been off).

Side effects:
as for the pain, i dont want to scare any of you, but it hurts like nothing else before. i have only injected the biceps and shoulders. to me, they both hurt equally the same. from what i heard calf, thighs, and traps hurt the most. but i wouldnt know., i only lack on shoulders and biceps. along with the pain the only other side effect i get off it is feeling really warm. Not flu like, but just a warm feeling like taking clen. most odd part for me is that (ranger and bigbrotherval is going to hate me for this) i never got the shits from it. seems like im the only one. even now at 1.15cc i get a mild case of gas but no shits.

In a nutshell:
all in all bros, i love it!!! im starting to look even. =)
If you like PAIN you will like pgf2a, but if pain is a dislike to you, dont waiste your time with it.

if any of you have anymore questions just ask away. [email protected]

good luck

swol


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Big Johnson

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posted March 06, 2001 02:51 AM

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AWESOME POSTS, BROS. THANKS FOR THE INFO.

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phiend

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posted March 06, 2001 02:54 AM

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Swol,
Great response. I didn't like the fact that I had to sacrifice a month of strength though. The pump feels great, but I feel like a bitch burning out with 5 reps of 135 and doing delt raises with 15's.


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WC

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posted March 06, 2001 03:49 AM

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I dont mind the lite weights, Im bigger that those in the gym, if they wanna come lateral raise more- oh well :-). I still havent had any cramping, and I did 1cc per delt about 3hrs ago, they are just sore as a SOB, but thats all well and good. I am gonna do delts for 2 weeks, then tri for 2 weeks, then Bi's for 2 weeks, then repeat.


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