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rookiegearhead

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posted March 05, 2001 03:31 PM

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I am going to be starting my first cycle here in a week or so, probably going with the test/deca combo. Do you think 400/week of test and 300-400/week of deca throughout would give me some decent benefits?

Which do you prefer, clomid/T3, or nolvadex..and when should I start cycling that in?

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FUZZDOG

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posted March 05, 2001 03:34 PM

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you have to say how much you weigh and your height and stuff but most people start out with 500ml test a week. If your diet is good and you get lots of rest and train hard and it's your first cycle then yes, you will grow a lot.

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lawnsaver

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That is a safe combo, but if you are prone to either estrogen induced gyno or progst induced gyno, you wouldnt be able to tell which one is giving it to you. I like the combo of test and eq. This way you can single out the sides. Nolva or arimidex would do the trick. I wouldnt do deca over 200mg a week without winny in the mix. Winny will help control the progest sides. I like eq also because it doesnt hold as much water as deca and I love the increases appetite and vascularity

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rookiegearhead

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posted March 05, 2001 03:37 PM

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Sorry bro, I'm about 6'2", 212, and right at 11% bodyfat.

I am thinking on maybe a 8-10 week cycle and splitting the dosages up into 2 different series of shots...sound ok?

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Jonrocks

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posted March 05, 2001 03:40 PM

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You will have to give us a little bit more info if you want some advice. Test/deca combo is good. I like EQ more than deca. Since you mentioned T3 I am assuming that you are looking to cut down a bit. In this case, EQ would be a better choice over deca. But if that is all you can get your hands on then so be it. What ever you do, test/deca or EQ, T3 should be taken sometime after half way through your cycle. I know most people like to finish thier cycle with it. Clomid you should take EOD, starting the second week into the cycle if you don't have enough, but if you have them, use them EOD and overshoot your cycle a couple of weeks.

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rookiegearhead

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posted March 05, 2001 03:44 PM

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The deca I am taking to hopefully relieve a some back pain....would EQ work just as effeciently?

I don't necessarily need to cut down that much right now, would clomid be a better choice in that regard?

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Jonrocks

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posted March 05, 2001 03:47 PM

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hey rookie, e-mail me, I am right next door to you in Glen Ellyn...

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Jonrocks

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posted March 05, 2001 03:51 PM

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Any pain relief from the deca is temporary anyways. If you are not looking to cut down, then the T3 would need to be taken in a diffrent fashion. I personally hate deca. I tried it, and hated it. I really like EQ, and how I respond to it. It also has less side effects, and you can stay on it longer. It was less to almost no water retention. If you can afford it, or you can find it for a good price, than I would opt for the EQ, but again if you have had good results with deca in the past then stick with what you know works for you.

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rookiegearhead

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posted March 05, 2001 04:03 PM

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Will take any more help I can get fellas!

Thanks.

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