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Stew Meat

Pro Bodybuilder

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From:Louisiana
Registered: Jul 2000

posted March 05, 2001 03:58 AM

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EQ- Bolderone
Takes 2-3 weeks before it is out of the system. It is pointless to start clomid until then and if you start it after then you will gave a one week period where you will have not enough hormone in your system to retain your gains as your test has not had a chance to come back nautrally.
Lets look at the last couple of weeks of an injection schedule of bolderone. I will use 400mg/week because I think that will be much better than 300. Keep in mind the life of bolderone is about 2 weeks. The first mondy is how much was injected to start with. The next injection days are days that have bolderone still present in the system plus the added injection from that day.

Most of what you know somes from what your have heard from other people who don't know what they are talking about. Most of the people here only regurgitate what they have heard others say. The following is not from "he-said-that-his-friend-said-that-someone-said-this-was-true" but was derived from scientific deductive reasoning based on research on esters and their substrate release.


(M1) represents what is left from MONDAY of the 1st WEEK
(F1) would be the friday from the first week.
Likewise, (M3) would be the amount still active from Week 3's Monday injection.

Read and learn, Iron Game.


1st Week -Monday: 200mg
initial injection

1st Week -Friday: 355mg in blood stream
initial injection still present (155mg) plus another injection (200mg)

2nd Week -Monday: 470in blood stream
(M1)115mg
(F2)155mg
(M2)200

2nd Week Friday: 535mg in blood stream
(M1)65
(F1)115
(M2)155
(F2)200

3Monday..555mg
(M1)20
(F1)65
(M2)115
(F2)155
(M3)200

3rd Week -Friday: 555mg
(M1)0
(F1)20
(M2)65
(F2)115
(M3)155
(F3)200


4th Week -Monday 555mg
(M1)0
(F1)0
(M2)20
(F2)65
(M3)115
(F3)155
(M4)200

4th Week -Friday: 555mg
(M1)0
(F1)0
(M2)0
(F2)20
(M3)60
(F3)115
(M4)155
(F4)200


5th Week -Monday 555mg
(M1)0
(F1)0
(M2)0
(F2)0
(M3)20
(F3)65
(M4)115
(F4)155
(M5)200

5th Week -Friday 555
(M1)0
(F1)0
(M2)0
(F2)0
(M1)0
(M2)0
(F2)0
(M3)0
(F3)20
(M4)65
(F4)115
(M5)155
(F5)200

6th Week -Monday 555
(M1)0
(F1)0
(M2)0
(F2)0
(M3)0
(F3)0
(M4)20
(F4)65
(M5)115
(F5)155
(M6)200

6th Week -Friday

(M1)0
(F1)0
(M2)0
(F2)0
(M3)0
(F3)0
(M4)0
(F4)20
(M5)65
(F5)115
(M6)155
(F6)200

OK... Do you see the trend? With bi-weekly injections of 200mg of the bolderone, you will reach a saturation zone of 555mg.

Now, we are going to stop all of our injections. No more injections... Watch what happens to hormone levels:

7th Week -Monday: 355mg
(M1)0
(F1)0
(M2)0
(F2)0
(M3)0
(F3)0
(M4)0
(F4)0
(M5)20
(F5)65
(M6)115
(F6)155
(M7)0

7th Week -Friday: 200mg present in the body which is plenty left to retain your gains however not enough to promote anabolism.
(M1)0
(F1)0
(M2)0
(F2)0
(M3)0
(F3)0
(M4)0
(F4)0
(M5)0
(F5)20
(M6)65
(F6)115
(M7)0
(F7)0

8th Week -Monday: 85mg in blood. This is just barely enough to deter catabolism. However it is still too much exogenous androgen to allow natural hormone production to resume.
(M1)0
(F1)0
(M2)0
(F2)0
(M3)0
(F3)0
(M4)0
(F4)0
(M5)0
(F5)0
(M6)20
(F6)65
(M7)0
(F7)0
(M8)0

8th Week -Friday: 20mg of Ex. Hormone in system! I would recomend that the Clomid be taken 300mg on day: Wednesday of week 8. then follow with 100mg per day for the following week till next Wednesday then drop the dose to 50mg. Also, on Wednesday, you should hit 2500iu of HCG and again on Fri or Saturday.
(M1)0
(F1)0
(M2)0
(F2)0
(M3)0
(F3)0
(M4)0
(F4)0
(M5)0
(F5)0
(M6)0
(F6)20
(M7)0
(F7)0
(M8)0
(F8)0

9th Week -Monday: Natural test level have probably resumed up to 75%. If you used HCG and Cyclofenil, they may be up to 100-110% functioning. The following 50mg EOD of clomid will help to make sure that the pituatary does't relapse and that in order for a steady stream of lutenizing hormone to be released for testicular stimulation.

If your cycle is longer, (and it should be, this was only for demonstration purposes) then your body will maintain 555mg of bolderone throughout the entire cycle until you stop the exogenous injections where levels will fall in exactly the same way as described above. It doesn't matter how long you stay on, the levels will act the same. 2 injections per week will keep levels from fluncuating.

The theme of this is: DO NOT START TAKING CLOMID RIGHT AFTER YOUR LAST INJECTION.
Enthanate, Propinate, Deconate, Iscoparate, etc... all have different lifespans. Clomid should be timed to comensate for the differences.
Never run bolderone for the same length as cypionate or prop.
My advice on an EQ and Enthanate cycle would be to increase the last bolderone injection to about 100-200mg higher than the reset of the injections and stop the injectioins on week earlier than the enthanate. That will make the perfect transisition in regards to the test and the eq leaving the system at the same time. Otherwise, your natural test will remain inhibited. Then hit the clomid/hcg one week after the last enthanate injection.

Timing is everything.


-Stew



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The_Iron_Game

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posted March 05, 2001 04:10 AM

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I disagree with what you stated in your other post about starting clomid therapy 3 weeks after the last injection. By the end of the 2nd week eq levels will be low enough to get away with using clomid and should reduce an extra week at the end of the cycle. IN that I mean rather than waiting for the 3rd week and then running it for 3 weeks or however long you require you can start 2weeks after injection and run it for the same length of time thus saving a week.
To Sum Up: Eq levels will be low enough to get away with starting clomid 2 weeks after last injection of eq esepcially on the amounts the gentleman in question on the other post was on.

Stew I will not argue with you anymore, it is a pointless practise that is carried out by inferior people and I do not count myself in this category. If I have nothing good to say about you I will say nothing and would appreciate it if you could be a man and do the same.

To conclude: Nothing good to say = Say nothing at all.

In the reply to the other post I simply stated clomid can be used 2 weeks after the last injection as the level of eq will be low enough and there is no need to wait that extra week.

Peace


PS If you dont want the other post then delete it, why would mods waste their time locking it?
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