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  Tamaxofin (Nolvadex) is Carcinogenic!

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2Thick

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posted March 05, 2001 02:46 AM

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May, 2000

The government is expected to add it to its official list of carcinogenic chemicals, alongside the likes of mustard gas.


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NEWMAN

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posted March 05, 2001 03:00 AM

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what the hell is wrong with people?

guess I have to stock up!


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Damian Borleone

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posted March 05, 2001 03:06 AM

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Tamoxifin is only considered carcinogenic if you have a UTERUS. I doubt very many men have problems with uterine cancer!!

Tobacco, alcohol and tanning beds are also listed as carcinogenic substances...Just use stuff in moderation and you'll be fine.


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ghans

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posted March 05, 2001 04:21 AM

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Nolva is used to TREAT breast cancer. Itself a carcinogen? What are you saying? Don't take it?

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delts2

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posted March 05, 2001 06:14 AM

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I just took it for ten weeks along with dbol......guess I'm on my way out now.

delts2

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Luca Brasi

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posted March 05, 2001 06:37 AM

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Damn one of the few drugs I do recommend people use. That is not good news. Was there a study done , if so could you send me a copy.

Thanks
Luca


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Vitaman

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posted March 05, 2001 06:43 AM

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What type of cancer are they saying it produces? This is news to me. Need more information before I give up this product.

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The Ghost

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posted March 05, 2001 08:54 AM

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What ISN'T carcinogenic now days? Seriously.

-TG


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cockdezl

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posted March 05, 2001 03:17 PM

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Crit Rev Toxicol 2000 Sep;30(5):571-94

"Chemoprevention of breast cancer by tamoxifen: risks and opportunities."

Smith LL, Brown K, Carthew P, Lim CK, Martin EA, Styles J, White IN

MRC Toxicology Unit, Leicester, UK.

The antiestrogen tamoxifen is widely used in the adjuvant therapy of breast cancers in women and helps to prevent the occurrence of breast tumors in healthy women. However, epidemiological studies have shown tamoxifen treatment to be associated with a 2- to 5-fold increased risk of endometrial cancer. In rats but not in mice, long-term administration of tamoxifen results in an increase in hepatocellular carcinomas. Mechanistically, this occurs through metabolic activation of the drug, mainly by the CYP3A family, to an electrophilic species, that causes DNA damage in target tissues, and subsequently leads to gene mutations. It is controversial whether low levels of DNA damage occur in human uterine tissues, and there is no evidence that this can be causally related to the mechanisms of carcinogenesis. In healthy women, the risk:benefits for the use of tamoxifen is in part related to the risk of developing breast cancer. The results from the carcinogenicity studies in rats do not predict the likelihood that women will develop liver cancer or indeed cancers in other organs. The mechanism of endometrial cancer in women remains unresolved, but the experience with tamoxifen has highlighted the potential problems that need to be addressed in the assessment of future generations of selective estrogen receptor modulators.


It seems that tamoxifen can be carcinogenic to endometrial tissue (uterine) and hepatic (liver) tissue, due to its ability to form DNA adducts. Another study stated that this effect is many times greater in the rat model, and may not be as problematic in humans. There is no clear cut answer for this, so everyone must weigh the odds on Nolvadex use.


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The Ghost

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posted March 05, 2001 04:00 PM

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Looks like I will be switching to Arimidex, until they find out that causes heart attacks, strokes and whatever else. Glad I haven't used it that much.

-TG


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Jback

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posted March 05, 2001 04:04 PM

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another reason to use proviron or arimidex I guess.

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Jonrocks

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posted March 05, 2001 04:18 PM

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Don't you guys know by now, that everthing cuases cancer...

I think what 2 thick is referring to is that Tamoxifin (nolvadex) can act as a carcinogenic too/in the uterus. It has been shown to cause uterine cancer. I doubt that you have anything to worry about from taking nolvadex. As stated above, it is used to treat breast cancer. But as with everything in life. Everything in moderation!


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Jback

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posted March 05, 2001 04:21 PM

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I would be curious to see how harmful 10mg a day can really be for six weeks.

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beefmaster

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posted March 05, 2001 05:06 PM

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So's an overcooked hamburger!


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bigrand

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posted March 06, 2001 02:18 AM

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we dont have to worry about Uterine cancer here (sorry for all the ladies reading 8-))
and as far as hepatocellular carcinomas, i hope you all know that Abombs cause liver cancer too. Dbol can do it to (ive yet to find a CARCINOMA, but there are a shitload of other liver problems). The point is many things can cause cancer, its a matter of how much for how long. Im sure 20mg eod or ed for the duration of a cycle wont cive you cancer.


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