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NHMUSLE

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posted March 04, 2001 01:45 PM

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Has anyone ever taken E when they were on their cycle? I was curious if this had any diffferent effect, accept the feeling of not wanting to eat a fucking thing the next day. The reason for this post is I like to go out clubbing every so often and I don't drink so I was wondering what the effects were? When I use to go out alot I would see some big boys at the club every weekend and I do'nt know how and the hell they can keep up there size if they are partying everyweekend?


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Daeo

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posted March 04, 2001 01:55 PM

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Decide what's more important to you. My opinion is that if you're serious enough to use steroids that you have to have enough discipline to stop drinking for the duration of your cycle. Why would you want to waste your money by using E, weed, alcohol, or whatever. I'm assuming that you're using steroids to get bigger and stonger correct? Why would you want to waste an ounce of muscle? If you can't go out to a club and have fun without being trashed then I feel sorry for you. It's all about priorities...

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dissto

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posted March 04, 2001 02:01 PM

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get your priorities straight. if you cant go a few weeks without getting fuked up, then you have issues beyond the scope of this board. decide, what is more important.

ps. i hate posts like these.

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Dark Stalker

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posted March 04, 2001 02:49 PM

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I agree with Dissto, the only thing you can think of when on cycle is weed... I'm not talking about smoking 3g in a day either...

A lot of people use it (so does the pros) to be able to eat more in order to grow.

Just my 0.02$,


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macrophage69alpha

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posted March 04, 2001 03:04 PM

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everything in moderation....many bodybuilders use E, some of the Pro's are well known for it, Chr** Cor**** being one.
I think that everyone sees deprivation as necessary for success, this is just not the case.
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Bigtug

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posted March 04, 2001 03:31 PM

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hmmm SAY BYE BYE TO YOUR LIVER??


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Jback

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posted March 04, 2001 03:41 PM

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not the best idea I think-you are taking steroids to enhance your physique and athletic performance-taking ectasy is counterproductive to everything you are working for-I agree smoke a joint every once in a while if you really need to do something-nothing more.

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FatRat

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posted March 04, 2001 03:45 PM

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All I can say is I know some guys who are on E's pretty much all of the time, not just for going out, more for getting up. They are some of the most ripped non-competitive bodybuilders I have seen (but fucked up).

macrophage69alpha, when the pro you mentioned was over here last year doing a seminar and posing tour, I had the pleasure of going clubbing with him in the evening after his very boring seminar. That boy did a lot of shit, not just E�s, let�s just say he likes to mix and match his poisons.


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ASUwrestler

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posted March 04, 2001 04:11 PM

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I think using e while on a cycle would be pointless. I thought you go on a cycle to become healthier. Why would you do it during a cycle you already have enough toxins in your liver at that point so why would you want to put shit like that in you body. Even if you took milk thistle your liver may never git over that shit.

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tyguy

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posted March 04, 2001 04:42 PM

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I think E2 did a post on this before with good info- do a search and see what you get-

LATER


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MUSTANGRACER27

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posted March 04, 2001 04:42 PM

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Ive been taking AS for more than 5 years. I also been taking E for 5 years on and off. I never take it more than once a month. Bare minimum let your brain bring its seratonin back, allow at least 2 weeks between use. I've studied AS and E for almost the same amount of time and have never read any compilcations with using them both simutaneously. Good luck.

More info on E go to www.ecstasy.org

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NJstacked

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posted March 04, 2001 08:00 PM

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Heres the Deal....Rolling while on Juice is much better than drinking...When I drink while running a cycle, I am the biggest asshole in the world. I used to drop E alot more last year and this past summer, I have calmed down and really enjoy the DJ/House Music more than the drugs...The only thing that seems to happen is if I get a dopey pill, I have severe anxiety attacks and it only happens when I am juicing and happen to get a Dopey Pill. Remeber to take 5-HTP everyday for a week before you roll and load up on vitamin C the night of...It will not only enhance your roll, but also replensih the nutirents lost while dropping pills. Being jacked, taking your shirt off in a club and at the same time "Popping 2 pills till your pupils fill up like 2 pennies" -EMINEM Is the best feeling in the world, dont go crazy with the pills, enjoy each one AND PLEASE BE SAFE!!!


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2Thick

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posted March 04, 2001 08:03 PM

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They don't go well together.


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whodaman

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posted March 04, 2001 08:35 PM

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Bro, I noticed that you're from Hamden, I'm from New Haven, e-mail me [email protected]


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WC

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posted March 04, 2001 09:03 PM

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I personally would nt use the two. A friend of mine used it one friday night with a tad of drinking. He was pissing blood for 2 weeks after that because he was on a heavy cycle and used E and alcohol.


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1Mistake

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posted March 04, 2001 09:08 PM

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Are you guys knuckleheads!!!??? ALL the pros use E.99% of them-and the fitness girls too.I partied with many of them and they can PARTY!! My wife was at C.C's after hrs at the O and a few of the top pros had to be carried out! A drug is a drug-Some good,others not so good.I've rolled while juicing with no problem-just eat lots of protein after.I don't know why some idiots think its ok to juice their heads off,but any other drug is for losers-thats a fuckin' BS line!!

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Daeo

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posted March 04, 2001 09:52 PM

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I think it's really childish to say "Well mommy everyone else is doing it". Also how long have you been close personal friends with all the pros and fitness chicks? Of course they're going to party right after a show. Those same pros do this for a living. Do you really think they're rolling or fucked up drunk all of the time when looking good is their only source of income? How can you compare AS to E anyway. How many ambitious ravers have you met. All recreational drugs require no discipline or ambition. You can't compare that to AS in the least bit...

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muscle_downunder

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posted March 04, 2001 10:21 PM

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I have done E many times while on a cycle, i also found i could not eat. to overcome this when i used to get home i would have a 3ml shot of amino lite (aussie vet product, just amino acids and B vitamans) and also about 2-3ml of B12. I found that day i can eat as normal, and the next day i feel like i did not even go out at all. Also just drink as much water as you can that day as you will be pretty dehydrated. But i would not reccomend partying ever weekend, limit it to once every month or so.

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1Mistake

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posted March 04, 2001 11:14 PM

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I didn't mean that they party every weekend.Moderation is the key.Everybody has a free will to do what they want.If you want to boot 3 grams of test a week-do it!!Don't get down on someone else because they roll or smoke,etc.If some of you guys knew what your"hero pros" do !!!! Selling/doing coke,H,meth..as well as the fact that half of the top togs eat 20-50 Percocett a day.Who is the junkie?? Just cause he is a BB its ok? Come on!!I t just pisses me off when guys on this board get all high and mighty about rec. drug use.If health is your motivation-then you shouldn't do tons of juice!!SO many of the top athletes have SERIOUS health issues that get swept under the rug.As long as you don't hurt anyone -who cares?? Give me some opinions!!If you've never done a particular drug ,then don't comment.I've never done coke or H,but I can't say what its like.People do shit for weird reasons!!

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Daeo

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posted March 05, 2001 01:28 AM

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Well to each his own. But I gave an honest answer. As a teen and even in my early 20's I've used alot of rec drugs. So it's not like I'm talking out my ass. I decided that my body and mind was worth more to me than a buzz. If you want me to blow smoke up everyones ass and say it's perfectly fine I won't do that. This post was never about what any pros do, so I really don't know how that was revelant anyway...

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jarabbit

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posted March 05, 2001 02:51 AM

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Yeah a lot of hypocrits here. Moderation in all things is usually the best way to go!


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1Mistake

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posted March 05, 2001 08:48 AM

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I was saying that there seems to be many drug users on this board,but the juice and gh guys are ok-and the rest are losers.To each his own

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dissto

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posted March 05, 2001 08:53 AM

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i dont think anyone is saying that it is ok to juice but not do other rec drugs. the point is that when you dedicate the time, money and effort to a cycle, do it right and dedicate your mind. i have done more than my share of E. i bet i have done more e than 99% of people on this board. BUT, now, i grew up and changed my priorities. bodybuilding is more important to me than a few hour buzz. i still roll once in a while, but not when on gear.


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DC

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posted March 05, 2001 11:56 AM

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Taking E every once in a while on a cycle isnt going to help you but it isnt that bad. I do it once or twice during a 10 week cycle. There is absolutly nothing better than being jacked on jucie, rolling your ass off, and having every chick in the club fucking gawking at you. Its sure as hell keeps you motivated in the gym! Not to mention you are pretty much gauranteed to get laid. Just dont get carried away with it.

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Daeo

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posted March 05, 2001 12:47 PM

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I'll bet my life that everyone who replied that it's not that bad to do rec drugs are the ones who CAN'T stop...

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aburgtank

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Probably true Daeo! Look guys if ya wanna party thats alright, just know that it won't help you gain anything besides Alzheimers and alot of other problems later in life. Look I party my ass off and the next day I'm always kicking myself inthe ass for it! So theres gotta be a reason why your body feels like shit the next day and its cause you treated it like shit. If you gotta ask yourself if its good for you or not its probably not that good! Peace.


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Daeo

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Originally posted by aburgtank:
Probably true Daeo! Look guys if ya wanna party thats alright, just know that it won't help you gain anything besides Alzheimers and alot of other problems later in life. Look I party my ass off and the next day I'm always kicking myself inthe ass for it! So theres gotta be a reason why your body feels like shit the next day and its cause you treated it like shit. If you gotta ask yourself if its good for you or not its probably not that good! Peace.

That what I was trying to say!!! hehe

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andre

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posted March 05, 2001 01:08 PM

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I AGREE WITH DC.. once or twice in a ten week cycle is not bad.. i force myself to eat though..later that nite and next day


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NJstacked

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posted March 05, 2001 03:32 PM

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Daeo...You Suck! Are you kidding me, sitting here justifying your juice habits and then putting down someones parting habits. Both are drugs and we have had this discussion before. My friends and I still laugh at you becuase you once said..."I go to nightclubs and party"...Sure you do...They probably suck though...maybe an all dudes club or something...Whatever...why juice if you can't go to a party/club and show your hard work off to all the women?


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plifter

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posted March 05, 2001 04:02 PM

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What the hell is E? Sorry, I've grown out of my partying days.


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ROIDRANGER

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posted March 05, 2001 05:09 PM

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DAEO are you telling me that the gear you use isnt recreational, do you make your meal ticket off BB, probaly not; therefore the gear you use is simply to enhance your hobby, which would be considered recreational use!!!!!! so lets not distort things to much here....drugs are drugs....and anabolics are drugs--its no secret...to each his own right, so next time just try answering the thread--istead of down playin people.....

i think the only difference there'd be while rollin' on gear would be that it be a little intenser, as everything thing seems amplified a little more while on gear, it wont help shit for your gains as you should know, but at the same time i dont think it will eat your muscle as bad as when your not juicing, so i dont think itll bother you once in a blue moon....remember MODERATION IS THE KEY TO LIFE.......

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Snoop

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I'm not gunna try and judge you for your decisions like everybody else. I rolled recently during the middle of my cycle of test 200 and I didn't notice any negative effects. Other than lack of motivation and lack of hunger, so if you want to do it once it shouldn't hurt anything but I wouldn't make it a habit.


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Daeo

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quote:
Originally posted by NJstacked:
Daeo...You Suck! Are you kidding me, sitting here justifying your juice habits and then putting down someones parting habits. Both are drugs and we have had this discussion before. My friends and I still laugh at you becuase you once said..."I go to nightclubs and party"...Sure you do...They probably suck though...maybe an all dudes club or something...Whatever...why juice

Another well thought out and intelligent post from you NJstacked. I especially like the line "if you can't go to a party/club and show your hard work off to all the women?". Hmm..so I have to be fucked up drunk or high to approach women or show off my body? You must have a really charming personality. You and your friends can laugh at me all you like. I could care less. You seem to be the one who is bothered by my comments. Also where did I directly downplay anyone? Quote me because I would LOVE to hear what I said that was so insulting. Sure my AS use may be recreational but not in the sense that you are saying. I plan on competing and becoming a personal trainer in a few months. Sounds a little bit differnt than getting trashed. I can guarantee that whenver someone asks or discusses about rec drug use they usually downplay it quite a bit. A habit that you say is only once a month is usually more like every Friday and Saturday. I'm sorry that I don't sugarcoat and say "Yeah dog. Pop a few pills whenever you like or get fucked up drunk, it won't hurt your gains any."

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1Mistake

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...a drug is a drug!!!! Rollin' once in a while is not bad for you.If you are on a cycle,you will lose quite a few pounds of water weight.Daeo-Not everybody goes out to get fucked up.Eating 1 pill is not "getting fucked up".Most people don't have a clue about how E works and its effects on the body.I am POSITIVE that I know more about E than anyone on this board!!

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Fe3

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I think you guys are missing the whole point. He doesn't wnat to know who approves/disapproves- who gives a fuck, the question is how bad is it? The answer, who knows. It's probably not the best idea, but will it kill you? maybe if you get a bad pill, but an regular e tab, i wouldn't think so. But be smart, one drug is bad enough, two drugs are worse. But be careful with what you do and good luck


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Daeo

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quote:
Originally posted by 1Mistake:
...a drug is a drug!!!!

Hmmm..Interesting theory. Crack=pot=alcohol=steroids=heroin=X...

NOW I UNDERSTAND!!

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