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 PGF2a AND FAT CELLS
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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I read it kills fat cells unlike diet and/or dnp which shrink them. by injecting the delts, arms, etc. does this mean i will notice only localized fat loss or will this be an overall effect? I did come across a sentence that stated it would affect every single cell in the body, so i am assuming it has an overall effect. will this mean that i will notice fat loss also in areas like my face? i'm about to start dnp with pgf2a to get ready for another bulk. any relevant replies appreciated.     | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 579 |
I dont think I would use DNP with this shit. I get hot for a couple hours with it, I sweat a bit and I have my AC on, it is 67 in here and I am sweating. Too much on your system. Cycle em. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 285 |
really? this is only for about 4 weeks, i planned on doing them both for some good fat loss to get ready for my bulk because this time i am doing it right. i didn't grow last cycle because i guess i didn't eat enough, so in order to eat all that fast food like that, i need to lose a good amount of fat so that i don't look terrible. then after that, i can finally "cut". lol. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 579 |
my friend sweats BUCKETS at a time on this!!! DONT USE EM TOGETHER!!! I have used DNP on/off for 3 years now and I would NEVER use both together!!! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 285 |
ok i will not do both. anyone else have the answers to my questions? thanks. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 285 |
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 285 |
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Moderator 
Posts: 5769 |
The fat destroying effect will be all over your whole body,but you will notice the areas that you hit the most frequently will be the leanest areas of your physique... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 285 |
quote: so will i also notice even my face getting thinner as well? just curious... | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 5769 |
Yes,the longer you use it,the more pronounced this will be as well... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 285 |
quote: the reason i ask, is because i dont know if the fat in my face is because my bf% is a little high, or if its naturally like that. will it kill fat cells that don't respond to diet and training? | ||
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Moderator
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The leaner you are,the more noticable the fat-loss effects appear.If you're holding a higher percentage of adipose tissue,it will take a while before you really start to see major changes cosmetically.It will effect fat all over your body though,even normally stubborn areas... | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 952 |
i am interested as well... huck, ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
Huck - while on a cutting cycle could I inject it into my lower ab fat and love handles (not deep enough into the muscle but just the fat) to try to get a more localized fat loss in those stubborn areas. I have really been wondering about this and wonder if anyone has a real answer. The best I have that I am going to try is using Yohimbine HCL through the skin in these areas but I wonder how the PGF would work locally injected. Any thoughts? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 359 |
Yes, you can spot inject in fat deposits. Im gonna use PGF spot injections along with Yo HCL orally as well as topically and also use phentermine. Kick ass fat loss | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
Bigrand- Have you spoke with people that have done this spot injecting? How were their results? If it really works I am going to get some too. What kind of injecting schedule would you use - how many cc's per spot how ofter? There isn't much info out there on how to use it like this. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 57 |
Amp, I wouldn't recommend injecting anywhere near the abdominals. PGF2a's main side effect is vaso-constriction of smooth muscles (abodominals/intestines). If you inject in the abs you take a chance of severe sides and little result. I would not go in closer to the abdominals then the chest. And stay at multiple .5 cc injections throughout the chest. In my experience the result is more noticable then using 1/2 cc injections. Also, look up the thread where Ranger talks about things he did to minimize the sides. (The ventilator worked great for me.) ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 904 |
quote: im wondering the exact same thing????? does this kinda of site injection work for fat-loss and how good????? ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 575 |
bump.....man, I wish Ranger was still around. ------------------ | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 5769 |
Yes,you can do this.Our veteran PGF2a champ,Jeff-rys,was on PGF2a for over 4 months straight and spot-injected fat stores away quite successfully injecting into sub-q areas.BUT-LET ME URGE EXTREME CAUTION ON THIS...PGF2a invokes very strong contractions of smooth muscle(bladder/small intestine),so injecting close to these area can cause extreme abdominal cramping...My advice is to start off in other areas(arms/delts),build up a tolerance to its side effects,THEN experiment with blasting away at the waist adipose stores... | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 575 |
Thanks HUCK! When injecting it into the arms & delts should you inj in the muscle or in the fat? ------------------ | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 5769 |
Muscle at first,then sub-q later on if you desire... | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 575 |
Thanks HUCK ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 32 |
I have experimented quite alot with PGF2A with very mixed results...If you are using the higher Androgenic AS's and use PGF2A in conjunction with your cycle, you will find the pumps will be far to hard to really get a good workout... However, while on Fina, and combining PGF2A I only experienced the PGF2A sides, and the fat loss was incredibile... You can inject into fat only, but it should be done with caution as Huck stated...PGF2A is not for everyone, and more often than not, the sides out weigh the end results... Of course people like Ranger, Jeff, BB Val, and Huck are a little to twisted for my tastes.....heh heh heh BZR | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
Well I guess I will stay away from the lower ab fat but how bad would it be if I started injecting the love handles? How much would you recommend to use per day? I'll trade sides for results anyday so I am not too worried about that. Uhh, I guess I should find out what the sides are before being mr. tough guy masochist making statements like that. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 359 |
Hey Amp, Ive talked at length with Jeffreys and Big Brother Val. Start with 1/4cc twice a day in fat like love handles. 1/4cc is a low dose to lessen the side-effects, but it is effective to KILL fat. it wont really be enough to build muscle, but its about cutting here. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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hey BIGGRAND i heard thats the low starting dose(1/4cc) for the MUSCLES, so how sure are you that--that's a good start for the fat?????? ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
BigRand- Thanks for the info. I'm not concerned with the muscle building part since I plan on doing it during my cutting cycle to try to get those annoying handles down to nothing. I would love to kill those suckers. I'll do as you suggested and see how it works. Thanks | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 466 |
One more question. What do you use for a pin in the love handles? I figured going with an insulin needle would be just enough to hit the fat and not come close to the muscle. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 575 |
bump ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 55 |
Bump. This shit sounds sweet.. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 285 |
lets keep this bumped for the answers  | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 72 |
if this stuff kills fat cells can u accumalte more fat cells. Does this mean that pretty soon shawn ray wont be the only one staying lean yr around | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 32 |
I would like to fore warn everyone wanting to jump on the PGF2A bandwagon....this is some very harsh shit to play with, and DO NOT take the sides lightly!!! Another key point...the long term effects are unkown at this point, and there is no certain terms as to what is considered long term...Made by Upjohn, the PGF2A comes in a 30ml vial, and runs for around 25 to as much as 60$ domestically... Up the dosage slowly, and once you experience the full side effects, you will come to appreciate those who were doing 4 to 12 injections per day of this nasty shit...You can use a slin pin without a problem, and I prefer the muscle as to the sub-cu injections....want some fun??? Try the first injection on a full stomach....you'll love it...heh heh heh, for real excitement, get a little cocky with it and do your traps and calves...very nice indeed..... BZR | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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ill bump again.... ------------------ | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 5769 |
Why do I keep getting the recurring feeling that I know you Bruzer  ...Listen to what he says bro's although PGF2a is very powerful in enhancing cosmetic appearance,it is undoubtedly one of the most brutal substances you will ever subject yourself to as well...Pain at the injection site that feels just like the nastiest"monkey-bump"you've ever received,inability to breathe very well(due to pgf being broken down in the lungs),shit-attacks that blow away the worst flu-virus you've ever had just to mention a few.... | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 618 |
quote: Haha... I tried PFG2a for 2 weeks and I upped the dosage every other day. I had to stop taking it in the morning becasue it was just too much. I had to go to work and I always felt like I had to shit up to 2 hours after the shots. So I started just taking it in the evening. I had enough when I was on the can ( full stomach) for over 3 hours, on and off. It woke me from my sleep. haha But I will start again soon, I'll just start off a little slower this time around. That last night I finally truely understood wwhat was said about the numb lips and the shortness of breathe. (weird) HTe other times I hardly noticed it. I mainly injected my bi's and delts. Chest one time about an inch away from the nipple. My arms are definately leaner. I haven't noticed a size gain, but I was only using for 2 weeks. ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 32 |
We have talked on another board, and another time when we we're known differently....Ape....<wink> BZR | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 5769 |
LOL...Like I said,I don't forget my Iron bros | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 465 |
I have taken this shit on and off, more off than on because i can't stand the sides, BUT- i'm going to keep trying My question, is pgf2 life threating? Could you have a life threating attack say with the inhibited breathing? |
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posted March 04, 2001 04:41 AM
