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Latimer

Olympian

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posted March 03, 2001 07:04 PM

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I meant cycle advice on the topic.

A friend is planning on doing a cycle soon. He's planning on using a clen/eca cycle before and after the mass cycle. This is his first cycle and it's put together on a budget.

This is what he has at his disposal:

2 bottles of T-200 tornel (20ml)
1 bottle of Reforvit-B (50ml)
60 tabs clomid
200 tabs clen

He's plainning on running 500 mg of T-200 for 8 weeks and the Ref-B for the first 4 weeks at 25-30 mg/day orally. Running the clomid eod during and ed post for 2 weeks. He will be using OTC supps to protect his liver.

Will tapering the test or d-bol be a good idea?

Would it be advisable to have some nolvadex on hand?

Is this enough juice to expect a possible 15-20lbs of keepable gains for a first cycle?

How much more beneficial would it be to run the t-200 at 600mgs which would require another bottle? I understand it's notorious for being underdosed.

Finally, is there a better way to approach this cycle with the gear he has available?


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Pharm Animal

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posted March 03, 2001 07:18 PM

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i wouldn't change a thing.....and there is no need for clomid during, HPTA will shut down regardless of the clomid. so save the clomids for post-cycle, and keep everything the same....no need to taper the test, but it's debatable on whether or not d-bol tapering is effective....if you do taper the d-bol, make sure it's a relatively fast taper, like 1-2 weeks

PA


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madbomber31

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posted March 03, 2001 07:27 PM

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i say dont taper either... the only time i'd consider the clomid IN cycle would be when coming off the dbol... but shut down WILL happen no matter what.. its all androgens there. most growth will be done 5 weeks into it... any chance your buddy would only want to go 6 weeks? get as much as he can from it while its all just kicking in high speed.

has he juiced before?
he does know he will be a water balloon right? big ole fat face.


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Beezers

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posted March 03, 2001 08:40 PM

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I concur with the don't taper. Looks good.


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Wanabebig

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posted March 04, 2001 01:19 AM

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don't taper!!! dosages look good


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