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PokeMeMon

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posted March 03, 2001 05:41 PM

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....3.) any other ideas?

please state your awnser thankyou!


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Lthrnk

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Space them through out the day it has a short life span while in the body ie 2 tabs every 3 hours good luck bro

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PokeMeMon

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posted March 03, 2001 05:45 PM

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but if you take them all 2 hours before you workout, just imagine how beneficial that could be also?? or no?


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bstrong

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posted March 03, 2001 05:57 PM

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3) space them out during the day, but make sure u take one of the doses right before hitting the gym.


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ultragainz

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hmmmm from what i have heard is that all at once is better and could be safer kind of..........later

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Deppnade

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posted March 03, 2001 06:17 PM

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ultra, how can u say that??


u are saying that u can introduce all those dbols at one time and that is safer than throughout the day??? ok, try that, take 6 of em at one time and tell me how ur heartrate is as compared to spread out, what about the guys who are doing 50-75mg a day, space em out.....

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Pharm Animal

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how about...say 5 mg in the morning, 15-20 mg 1 hour before working out, 5 mg in the evenings, and 5 mg before bed/midnight snacktime? this is what i used to do and seems like it works a lot better for me this way....it's kindof like halfway between your two extreme ideas, LUVS

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madbomber31

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posted March 03, 2001 07:07 PM

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ultra may have a point.. he didnt go into detail but... its speculated that ONE dose of Dbol in the a.m. will lessen the shutdown of ones natural production... i have yet to see the actual reports of this but its been talked about on this board before...


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Bigtug

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take it throughout the day...life of dbol is about 3-4 hours in your system so.. spread it out what suits your schedule...u might need to take 2 at a time but i thinks allright..."milk thistle" make sure you take it...it will help your liver out...it can be found at a local GNC or vitamin store


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ultragainz

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see there are 50mg d-bol pills and you take it once a day and people have got good gainz on it...so there you are taking it once a day....so you dont have notthing to lose if you try it once a day...both ways are great.see if you are taking 6 pill a day try this one in the morning and about 1 hour before working out take the rest..........later

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ultragainz

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plus it could be safer all at once cuz it metabolite better in your body......later

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PokeMeMon

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posted March 04, 2001 06:48 AM

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hmmm, any articles to back up statements guys, very controversial issue over here!


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quote:
Originally posted by Deppnade:
ultra, how can u say that??


Taking them all at once is suppossed to reduce risk of supressing HPTA

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posted March 04, 2001 07:29 AM

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However, worth baring in mind that if you are stacking them with other anabolics, as most will, your HPTA will be supressed anyway.


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PokeMeMon

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posted March 04, 2001 10:59 AM

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ok how does this sound to sum up this whole post: Someone with great knowledge of Dianabol please state:

1.) Taking Dballs all at once:
2.) Spacing Dballs through out day:

The Benefits:

The negative aspects:

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ultragainz

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posted March 04, 2001 11:17 AM

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hey "GAME" am i right?

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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Taking all at once in the a.m.-Positives=minimal suppression of testosterone production,and if taken right before one's workout,will give an excellent boost in androgen-induced strength/aggression...The negatives-You will only have the drug working for a few hours out of each 24 hour period,as d-bol's short activity life(4 hours)is not condusive to once daily dosing.This creates a "roller-coaster"effect on blood levels of the drug,and is certainly not the way to maximize its effects towards influencing hypertrophy...

Taken in equal 4 hour spaced intervals-
The positives-As described above,this keeps steady blood levels of the drug working round the clock towards building muscle mass,and avoids the spikes and drops in blood plasma levels of the drug.This is the way to capitalize on its maximum efficiency influencing GROWTH...
The negatives-You will undoubtedly shut down your endogenous production of testosterone if running a pattern like this over 2 weeks in length,and you may not get the huge boost in androgens right before you train as well...


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ultragainz

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wow "HUCK" said it all........later

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BigWh1tey

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posted March 04, 2001 11:44 AM

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Spread them out , if your on any other androgen your HPTA is screwed anyway( or if your taking more then say 15 mg of D a day ). So i would say the point Ultra is trying to make if moot( especially if your taking the 50mg version ). If you are taking the 50mg versions , split them in half ( 1/2 am , 1/2 pm ) .
The idea with multi dose is that it keeps a constant level in your blood stream . If it floats your boat take some before you work out if not stick to a schedule ( eg. 10mg every 2 hours throughout the day ).
Unless your doing a tiny amount , the single AM dose is of no benefit . If your goal was to not impair your HPTA , switch to Oral primo( if you can find it ) or Anavar .
Good luck Luvs .


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JuanDeLaCruz

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A single dosage will be in your body just as long if you spread the dosage because that's the way half-lives work. A half-life of 3 hours does not mean that a single dosage 35mg will disapear in 3 hours. It means that after 3 hours you will have 17.5mg going through your system, then 3 hours later 8.75mg, and this continues until it's all broken down by the liver.
Now if you split that up into 3 or 4 dosages every 3 hours you will have a lower peak than if you took them all at once, though the half-lives will still over-lap and the dosage will accumulate. Example, if you took 10mg, 3 hours later you would have 5mg in your sytem because of the half life, so if you took another dose of 10mg you would now have 15mg in your system. Three hours later you would have 7.5mg in your system plus another dose of 10mg = 17.5mg and so on.
In conclusion, a single dosage will give a high peak while still giving you an anabolic effect throughout the whole day, and it is a lot less troublesome than spliting up the dosages and having to watch the clock with a bunch of tabs in your hands.
Also, check this out. Test Suspension gets into your system all at once like orals, but people who use it don't go spliting up their shots 4 times a day. And for the people who say what about the guys who do 60mg of Dbol; well, whether you do 60mg all at once or split it up throughout the day 60mg is 60mg and it's all going into your system within 24hours, so if you're going to fuck up your liver you're going to fuck up your liver.

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BigWh1tey

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Juan is right about the accumulated blood levels , but the bolus of Test IM takes a lot longer to disperse into your system , hence a lower peak and longer rate of dissipation so multiple doses/day are not required . ( unless your doing it IV which is not a good plan )


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Juan is right about the accumulated blood levels , but the bolus of Test IM takes a lot longer to disperse into your system , hence a lower peak and longer rate of dissipation so multiple doses/day are not required . ( unless your doing it IV which is not a good plan )


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Juan-I see what you're saying but your statement was off.It is not the same as spreading the dosages out in 4 hour intervals...Let's use your theory and say d-bol has a three hour half life.Say we decide to take all of our 30mg dosage at one time.At the three hour mark,15 mgs of the drug will be present in circulation.At the six hour mark 7.5 mgs of the drug is present.At the 9 hour mark,a miniscule 3.75 mgs of the drug remains present in your system,whereas stated above,if taken in the 4 hour intervals,the half-lives overlap one another,and the blood plasma levels remain strong and consistant,constantly working toward influencing protein synthesis...


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ultragainz

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hey see like i said you can take the 50mgs d-bol pill all at one time.........later

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space them out!!!!!!!!!

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ultragainz

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read what "HUCK" said i said the same....you can space them out if you want try the other way all in the am you have notthing to lose.........later

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My 2 cents - I don't find that dbol does much by way of increasing heart rate or whatever, but it does make me a bit nauseous sometimes. All the other reasons for spacing it out mentioned above are good - for me, throw in the fact that any more than 2 at a time makes me sick to my stomach... no way I'm going to pop 6 at once.


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If on a dbol only cycle at under 30mgs/day or there abouts in ball park figures take them all at once, if stacking with any longer acting steroid then take them spaced throughout the day. If you are only doing a 2 week cycle then space them out as impact on hpta will be minimal. Very simple.

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posted March 04, 2001 05:27 PM

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.....THE END

thankyou....


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PokeMeMon

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posted March 04, 2001 05:32 PM

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WEll actually this is what i decided to do:

2 1/2 hours from workout: pop 3 Dballs

3 hours after workout: pop 1 dball

3 hours before run: pop 1 dball

------done for dosage of day..

how does that sound?


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posted March 05, 2001 04:57 AM

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i'll tell you how it sounds...

GOOD, because i was the one to tell you to think about doing that in the first place!

LOL

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PokeMeMon

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posted March 05, 2001 07:53 AM

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true, you defeinlty right bro, you really from hawaii?


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If anyone has the Anabolics 2000 reference manual there is a good section on this subject at the bottom of page 73. The author really does not say which dosing method is "better".


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I love typing!!...anyway here is the section from page 73 of Anabolics 2000 by William Llewellyn for what it's worth.

The half-life of Dianabol is only about 3 to 5 hours, a relatively short time. This means that a single daily dosage schedule will produce a varying blood level, with ups and downs throughout the day. The user likewise has a choice, to split up the tablets during the day or to take them all at one time. The usual recommendation has been to divide them and try to regulate the concentration in your blood. This however, will produce a lower peak blood level than if the tablets were taken all at once, so there may be a trade of with this option. The steroid researcher Bill Roberts also points out that a singe-episode dosing schedule should have a less dramatic impact on the hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis, as there is a sufficient period each day where steroid hormone levels are not extremely exaggerated. This combined with anecdotal evidence; suggests that the practice of divided dosing might actually turn out to be slightly less successful in terms of overall muscle gain. Many have experimented with good success using a once-per-day schedule wit this steroid, so perhaps this is a better option. Since we know the blood concentration will peak about 1.5 to 3 hours after administration, we may further with to choose the best time to take our tablets. It seems logical that taking the pills earlier in the day, preferably some time before training, would be optimal. This would allow a considerable number of daytime hours for an androgen rich metabolism to heighten the uptake of nutrients, especially the critical hours following a training session.


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Be wary about taking one before you run...your back can cramp up like all hell...but it doesn't happen to everyone

Try taking it after you run...that is what the Ruskies do...


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